posted March 28, 2015 01:49 PM            

My NODES are 18º '03 LEO-AQU.
His Huber NODES are 18º '30 LEO-AQU.

It's a conjunction of 0º30, give or take a few minutes.

As this is my Guardian, I suspect it has something to do with his particular role in this area. But house synastry (Huber degree work) is largely still unexplored, and I've found zilch covering such an overlay.

Still, it remains staggering to me that we'd have such an overlay, and I'd love to better understand why.

Thanks to any who offer their thoughts. Awhile back, Lee suggested it has something to do with a Nodal path alignment; that I represent his ideal in this regard. I like that notion, but I'm not sure how truly descriptive that is of the connexion. It oft feels the reverse, to be honest.

posted March 28, 2015 03:14 PM            

So for him nodal axis must be in 5th-11th house for that to happen, and using Koch houses, at the exact same position as your Nodes are in the signs.

So an overlay of house-sign.

It is what is called "click" in the huber terminology. They use click charts for synastry

posted March 28, 2015 03:17 PM            

EDIT
Oh I see house.

so a house - signcomparison

posted March 30, 2015 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Interesting thought, Pel. Looking at it from the calculation-side. I can confirm that our goals are very much aligned both personally and professionally. I wonder if, since the houses are where we express things, or in what area of our personality, life, or experience, if that has anything to do with the way it'd express.

He's not much of a TAU NNODE outside of fiscal responsibility. He's certainly not greedy, nor would he sacrifice his principles for financial security. In many ways, he does resonate with much of the LEO/AQU axis in this regard, coming from a more AQU state, and moving towards a more LEO personality and experience.

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I think I understand Lee's interpretation.

Your Guardian has a specific idea about his purpose in life that he tries to approach and move towards, while you already embody those North Node characteristics nat(ur)ally -- if you've reached the completely evolved state of your North Node, that is. Put that way, I think he does see you as an expression of his inner ambitions, or his 'ideal'.

posted March 31, 2015 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
This one's still puzzling me. I'm hoping someone else out there might be having this going on in their own synastry.

My NODES are 18º '03 LEO-AQU.
His Huber NODES are 18º '30 LEO-AQU.

It's a conjunction of 0º30, give or take a few minutes.

As this is my Guardian, I suspect it has something to do with his particular role in this area. But house synastry (Huber degree work) is largely still unexplored, and I've found zilch covering such an overlay.

Still, it remains staggering to me that we'd have such an overlay, and I'd love to better understand why.

Thanks to any who offer their thoughts. Awhile back, Lee suggested it has something to do with a Nodal path alignment; that I represent his ideal in this regard. I like that notion, but I'm not sure how truly descriptive that is of the connexion. It oft feels the reverse, to be honest.

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Well, it and Ceridwen's link/post finally prompted the Huber google to see what people were really talking about, cue seeing that my noted "Draconic Sun-Moon are antiscia someone else's regular NN-SN" is just that my Huber Sun is conjunct the SN and Huber Moon conjunct the NN. Or click-conjunct or whatever they call it. Also Sun click-conjunct (?) their Huber Houses Moon at the end of 5th house, all sorts of underlying interesting contacts, as thus far otherwise already. My Huber Houses Moon ~8 deg in 8H/Scorpio, so what of someone's Huber NODES Sun "clicking" through from 1 degree 8th house, too? Confusing systems, but further Sun-Moon and nodal hits, I guess.

Also comes with their Huber Houses NN conjunct their regular Sun, my SN, so forming the opposite of your NN-hhNN example. Their Huber Nodes ASC ~24 Scorpio, 2 from my NN and the other way ~1 from the antiscion of my DC. My SN also doubles as my sidereal Antivertex, so a Huber NN contact to those. Well, both ways really with the Vertexes opposed and their Sidereal AVX conj my NN, their Huber Nodes ASC and Huber Houses SN. Whatever all its worth. Currently long distance and not active per se, just interesting as contacts or examples and how you resonate with people despite everything or appearances.

As arghed over on the other post, don't even know what you're allowed to compare against one Huber chart. Is a Huber Houses DC conjunct someone else's Huber Nodes something a valid hit, or what can you compare against what?

posted March 31, 2015 11:29 AM            

For me, it was a kind of identifying a certain resonance between our NODES, and being unsure what that is exactly.

Many into Huber enjoy using the degrees as a separate zodiacal system unto itself in order to see overlays onto other systems still. I admit, I thought little of it outside of hunting affinities in synastry, or finding links in natals of an individual.

Huber, to me, feels like a system of 'Here' to me, with a very 'Now' application. Our houses are so very personal, as they're calculated by our time of birth in a specific location. And so they determine where planets and points express their energy. Upon what stage, in which area of life.

But Nodal astrologers are surprisingly lenient when it comes to sign versus house, claiming that a LEO NNODE is virtually a 5H NNODE.

So that's got me thinking on that word -- virtual. It's as if the Huber degrees may denote how a point is virtually its Huber sign. I'm not sure why the Nodal astrolohers have this philosophy, merely the knowledge they do.

Breaking it all down back into its discrete parts, an 18° LEO Huber NODE is 'virtually' an 18° LEO NNODE, perhaps, per the understanding that 5H NNODE / LEO NNODE are 'virtually' the same expression, purpose, and path.

posted March 31, 2015 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Huber, to me, feels like a system of 'Here' to me, with a very 'Now' application.

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That is a very apt description of what their system strives to be.

While in their system the natal chart indicates inborn qualities, it`s the house chart that describes the manifestation in the "real world", through modification and influence by the early experiences in childhood, the surroundings and also based on the reactions of the external world, that is shaping that "displayed personality".
and it is also what the external world sees in you or believes you to be.

That can very different from your inborn qualities.

BTW Huber astrology ONLY uses the Koch houses. (while I personally prefer Placidus, it might be that the results wil be distorted and Huber-syste does not "work" anymore with any other housesytem like the on they base their astrology on).

my basal chart (natal)
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my house chart
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As you can see my natal Venus-Pluto-square transforms into a trine in the house chart, which means that the challenging energy is being expressed in a much smoother way than expected (let`s not talk about Mars-Pluto though. lol)

In terms of synastry Huber astrologers would mainly compare the house charts to each other for click-points (conjunctions and oppositions), to see what really manifests in the real world.

The natal is seen as a nice potential, but if not being given channels to express shown in the house chart, it will not take off.

You can have the most wonderful Sun-Moon-Venus-conjunction in the basic chart, and while you might be really fond of each other, if your house charts are not interacting in such a way, then nothing wil come out of it. A relationship will stay a nice idea, but it will not become a reality.

Just summarizing what I read from Huber. not judging.

posted April 01, 2015 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
But Nodal astrologers are surprisingly lenient when it comes to sign versus house, claiming that a LEO NNODE is virtually a 5H NNODE.

So that's got me thinking on that word -- virtual. It's as if the Huber degrees may denote how a point is virtually its Huber sign. I'm not sure why the Nodal astrolohers have this philosophy, merely the knowledge they do.

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No comment on the rest for now, but noting I guess I never had any problems with the 5H/Leo equivalent talk. My NN is 26.09 Scorpio, 5th house, and squaring the nodes there's my second house Leo Sun at 28.20 or so. Whether you consider it a bit of a wide orb for nodes or not, doesn't change that I have a 2H to Taurus SN influence mixing with the 5H NN and Leo thing to bring "balance" automatically whatever the case. One way or another. *shrug* Away from Aquarius for me personally, and I'd assume that my Pisces Moon being in my 8th house (~2 opp Sun) tips some things further to the North Node's side somewhere down the line. Seesaws, oppositions, whatever influences.