posted March 31, 2015 06:09 PM            

What are your thoughts? Make any sense?
http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/duke.html

Excerpt:
"Mania, however, is mimicked by other astrological situations. Here are some:

(a) Some one struggling between equal but separate mars (for mania) and saturn (for depression) influences could appear bipolar. Mars also represents energy and initiative, so it can mimic conditions of mania and uranus. However, even though mars’ energy, e.g., in a trained athlete or emergency situation, can become intense, it rarely hits the extremely high, constant outpouring of energy that is mania. Even trained or in emergencies, mars’ energy is, relatively speaking, normal. Mania energy is not. It is extraordinarily intense, with unusual psychological qualities.

(b) Some one with one Angle influenced by light/venus/jupiter and another influenced by light/saturn is going to appear bipolar. He swings from happy, productive periods to depressed, dysfunctional ones. Light/venus/jupiter is the set that describes all kinds of lucky and joyful situations. Any one would want to stay under its influence. However, with this kind of split, it will likely be experienced in alternation with depression, depending on which is set off by conditions as well as astrology. Naturally saturn/Angle is more painful following the joy and ease produced by light/venus/jupiter. Joy and ease are not mania. They are, in fact, components of our normal experience of being charismatic, successful, and lucky.

(c) Schizoid states can appear manic. Schizoid people can be very excited, and, if paranoid, even very, very excited. However, their energy is coming from mis-directed mars (fear, defense, anger) inflamed by hallucinations (neptune), not the high energy with convictions of unstoppability of mania. Manic people are not schizoid unless they also have mars/neptune influencing 3rd houses of mind, as does Patty Duke.

(d) Some one with a high emphasis of afflicted, Angular Leo planets can appear manic. They have an unconscious need to remain the constant center of attention. They will fight to maintain it, even when it makes them unpopular. In alternation with saturnine aspects it could look bipolar.

(e) An individual who has angular light/uranus in Gemini can appear manic. His mind often goes a mile a minute (Robin Williams would be an example). Without seeing more of his chart, we do not know if he is truly manic, or simply focused on the more exciting, interesting part of his chart.

posted April 01, 2015 06:53 PM            

The author doesn't seem to be aware that 'schizoid state' is never comorbid with schizophrenia. Bipolar I (or II) and schizophrenic spectrum are apples and oranges, besides the grievous error already committed in regards to schizoidism.

And this is flat completely wrong:

'Schizoid states can appear manic. Schizoid people can be very excited, and, if paranoid, even very, very excited. However, their energy is coming from mis-directed mars (fear, defense, anger) inflamed by hallucinations (neptune), not the high energy with convictions of unstoppability of mania. Manic people are not schizoid unless they also have mars/neptune influencing 3rd houses of mind, as does Patty Duke.'

She has no viable education in mental health and is making incorrect pronouncements and baseless comparisons. This makes the rest of her argument suspect at best to me.

Schizoidism only shares relationship to schizophrenia in that it's along the same spectrum, expressing some of its negative features. Excitability is not such a trait, and paranoia tends to be part of a schizophrenic pattern -- not schizoid.

posted April 01, 2015 07:16 PM            

Schizoid personality (SPD), and, in some cases, schizotypy (though we're edging more into schizophrenia territory there) seems to resonate with a natal T-Square involving CHIRON, URANUS, and whatever lies at its Midpoint. It can be wide -- up to 10º.

A secondary condition involves a hard aspect of CHIRON to SATURN or the MOON. This requires a bit more digging, as I've found contraparallels and parallels to tell the greater story. In male charts, SATURN is more likely to be represented, with the MOON in female. (This intrigued me, considering how schizoid personality tends to develop as a result of psychological trauma in childhood, largely stemming from the same sex parent (father in men, mother in women). As, of course, SATURN represents the father, and the MOON, the mother.)

As schizoids have many of the negative symptomology of schizophrenia -- flat affect, emotional detachment -- it leads to a predilection for solitude and less of a cooperative, and more solo attitude. As to be expected, there tends to also be a strong MOON-URANUS resonance -- whether hard aspect (conjunction, opposition, square) or parallel / contraparallel.

posted April 01, 2015 07:27 PM            

And this:

'The “perpetual dilettantes” ... (the cyclothymes) are probably problems of conjunctions (of sun, or moon, or maybe a planet) to south nodes in Gemini, which have nothing to do with either mania or depression ... '

This person has no idea what they're talking about. Cyclothymia, the slowly-becoming-obsolete category of Bipolar II, has NOTHING to do with schizoid state, and has an entirely different mechanism than bipolar I.

Not to mention making luminary conjunctions to SNODE in GEM a 'marker' for cyclothymia. Seriously?