posted April 07, 2015 09:24 PM            

I have a question concerning someone I know and me. (TL;DR at the bottom!)

Let me elaborate a little about the situation: we connect a lot. I mean, there are a myriad of things that happened in our lives that could be coincidences, but the amount and nature of what happened tends to 'tell' me that it may not be coincidences, eventually.

An example, we have the same dreams, as in, we actually are both in the same dream. But we do not look like how we are, physically, in the real world.

So how can I tell it was actually the same person? Because one day I told her my dream, with more or less details (I don't remember my dreams easily, sadly), and she looked kind of shocked because, from the details I told her, she could tell she was in the same dream as mine.

And this happened multiple times, maybe even before I told her my dream.

It's creepy, but I have a scientific mind so I tend to call coincidences or whatever I can find to explain things.

Another thing is our family members tend to.. Pass away.. On the same day. Her grandfather died the day my grandmother died. Same for 2 other of our family members... (Again I tend to call coincidences here)

I'm a little puzzled here!
Is there anything in synastry that could make a link between us?
I'm not speaking about a romantic link, but more like a spiritual link? A karmic link? A family link? I don't know.

I'm not going to send any material (charts?) right away, because first I don't know what to send you to have a comfortable "reading" (if you call it like that ), and second, I don't like "throwing random charts" at you, I find it a little rude, hehe. Please tell me what would you need.

Thank you for your time if you read down to this point!

Have a nice day, evening or even night,

VB

TL;DR: Could you please (if possible), tell me if there's any karmic(?), spiritual(?) or family(?) link between someone and me?

I put interrogation marks because I don't really know what I'm talking about, it's very strange to me.

PS: As you can tell, English isn't my mother tongue.

EDIT:
Here are the charts so you don't have to search the whole topic

Her natal chart: http://i.imgur.com/0q11MeI.gif

My natal chart: http://i.imgur.com/b29Tvta.gif

Synastry chart: http://i.imgur.com/nwptoKr.gif

posted April 07, 2015 11:17 PM            

I'm a scientist myself, so it takes a bit 'getting used to' and then fighting off your own brain.

Post the two natals and synastry, if you like. That'll give us enough material, as it provides degrees and a general sense of how you two interact (synastry).

posted April 08, 2015 07:49 AM            

So this might be the name to put on what happened so far, I'm curious about what those charts will tell.

I have the feeling that there are things in this world I cannot explain with the laws of physics (or any appropriate field of science appropriate for the 'phenomenon').
I'm not the only one to think this, many other friends had some kind of curious experiences lately. Not the same as the one I described above, though.
Is this moment of the human history a turn? A moment of global consciousness awakening? Or again, just coincidences? (coincidences will always come back haha, even though i find it a little light for a scientific explanation...)

I will post the charts as soon as I have access to a computer.

posted April 08, 2015 05:17 PM            

Here they are (I don't know how to make links or anything yet, so i'll just put the links, sorry for inconvenience):

First, her natal chart, http://i.imgur.com/0q11MeI.gif

Second, my natal chart, http://i.imgur.com/b29Tvta.gif

And lastly, the synastry chart, http://i.imgur.com/nwptoKr.gif

posted April 08, 2015 07:24 PM            

I'm really confused about this situation to be honest: I didn't even know those kind of things could happen.

I have interest in what you say: "Reality is created in the 'dream' world". It's pretty much what has been happening.
What or who is Toltec by the way?

I already experienced lucid dreaming I think, but i cannot control when it happens. Usually when i had a calm day. x)

I think I have so many things to learn from all of you, things I cannot control or understand right now. But i don't know what it is! ^^

posted April 09, 2015 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by VanillaBean:
Hey Astra7!

I'm really confused about this situation to be honest: I didn't even know those kind of things could happen.

I have interest in what you say: "Reality is created in the 'dream' world". It's pretty much what has been happening.
What or who is Toltec by the way?

I already experienced lucid dreaming I think, but i cannot control when it happens. Usually when i had a calm day. x)

I think I have so many things to learn from all of you, things I cannot control or understand right now. But i don't know what it is! ^^

Thanks Astra

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Look up SERGIO MAGANA, he's on youtube as well. He teaches Toltec Lucid Dreaming.
He has recently published a book if you want to have a peek. Mexican people have practised Lucid Dreaming since young so they can control their dreams. So can you! I am practising to be there. So it's really becoming conscious while dreaming instead of drifting away with the dream and not having a control of a story....if you know what I mean.

With LD, you can manifest health, the body you want, job, money, peace, relationships....you name it. Limit is only within your mind....it's a programming (lie) you picked up from others that tell you....you can only do this. But of course, those who thought these belief knew no better because they were also given the programming! LOL

posted April 09, 2015 10:19 AM            

First because i don't have the control over when it happens, one day i can have a lucid dream, then just have normal dream for weeks maybe months.

And second because when I lucid dream, there's always that figure that scared me when i was younger, i don't know who it is but it's always there, so it's not exactly a joyful experience to me.

Of course, your experience of LD can be totally different, i don't say it's a bad thing.

But there's a question that strikes me just now: what is the point of lucid dreaming? Just controlling your dreams or is there something more meaningful behind it?

Btw, when I see my friend in dreams, it can be either in a normal dream or a LD, if that matters.

posted April 09, 2015 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by VanillaBean:
To be honest, i don't really like lucid dreaming.

First because i don't have the control over when it happens, one day i can have a lucid dream, then just have normal dream for weeks maybe months.

And second because when I lucid dream, there's always that figure that scared me when i was younger, i don't know who it is but it's always there, so it's not exactly a joyful experience to me.

Of course, your experience of LD can be totally different, i don't say it's a bad thing.

But there's a question that strikes me just now: what is the point of lucid dreaming? Just controlling your dreams or is there something more meaningful behind it?

Btw, when I see my friend in dreams, it can be either in a normal dream or a LD, if that matters.

I posted the charts a few posts above, I don't know if you guys could check it out if you have time?

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Unknown scares us but if you get to know what it is....it won't scare you.

posted April 09, 2015 12:24 PM            

Unknown doesn't exactly scare me, in fact i'm quite attracted to the unknown, but that figure I see in LD is quite aggressive, while at the same time keeping its distances with me.
Maybe it represents an ancient fear, or someone I know IRL but doesn't look like that person, like I have with my friend.
You're right though, I must know what it is and maybe the fear will fade.

posted April 09, 2015 12:51 PM            

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Originally posted by VanillaBean:
It is very wise indeed!
You know, I thought i'd learn new things by posting this topic yesterday, and it's already starting.
I'll get as much info as i can about LD, and hopefully try "controlling" it, if that's even possible i don't know.

Unknown doesn't exactly scare me, in fact i'm quite attracted to the unknown, but that figure I see in LD is quite aggressive, while at the same time keeping its distances with me.
Maybe it represents an ancient fear, or someone I know IRL but doesn't look like that person, like I have with my friend.
You're right though, I must know what it is and maybe the fear will fade.

The puzzle is spread in front of me, now i gotta put it back together

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posted April 09, 2015 05:08 PM            

Well even if my scientific mind tells me otherwise, I believe that there's something more, and that indeed the world is composed of things that the eye cannot see.

posted April 10, 2015 01:32 AM            

I don't see a Twin Flame relationship here, but absolutely the likes of which have to do with very, very close soul family. You're in each other's lives for an important reason which is sure to show itself over time.

Did you feel that she's helped you better access your spiritual nature? There are a few ways we can delve astrologically to better understand this connexion.

For my scientific mind to grok it, I've come to understand such connexions as being multidimensional associations. This is why we appear in so many ways. With my Guardian, I believe I've seen at least 14 different 'appearances' now across several dimensions -- all within the first 6 months of our sexual relationship beginning.

It's as if we would 'load' each other (or perhaps just me?) during our intimate encounters with the many lifelines and eigenstates in which we've known each other, so as to allow me to understand the depth of our knowledge of one another.

posted April 10, 2015 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Has she told you her dreams where you recognize you were in them? Or is it that you go first then she shares a similar dream?

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Well, in the beginning it was whoever was first to tell the other about last night's dream.
Now we don't really talk about it anymore, we just acknowledge it then just go on with the day normally.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Don't get too freaked out, Bean. While it's a wide wild world 'out there' it's best to remember our reality is rooted in our perception, and remains of our creation -- in that sense.
I don't see a Twin Flame relationship here, but absolutely the likes of which have to do with very, very close soul family. You're in each other's lives for an important reason which is sure to show itself over time.

Did you feel that she's helped you better access your spiritual nature? There are a few ways we can delve astrologically to better understand this connexion.

For my scientific mind to grok it, I've come to understand such connexions as being multidimensional associations. This is why we appear in so many ways. With my Guardian, I believe I've seen at least 14 different 'appearances' now across several dimensions -- all within the first 6 months of our sexual relationship beginning.

It's as if we would 'load' each other (or perhaps just me?) during our intimate encounters with the many lifelines and eigenstates in which we've known each other, so as to allow me to understand the depth of our knowledge of one another.

Crazy. Just mind-boggling. It's taken me just about every day since (December 2013) to try and process it!
Give yourself time. Take it slowly.

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Well, to answer your question, she actually does help me to open to these kind of things (I mean, the dreams, what I call coincidences, our familly members passing away on the same day, ...), she's a lot more spiritual than I am.
She's the artist type, i'm the cartesian type. We are kind of the opposites in real life, but we still get along somehow.
While I don't understand what she tells me when she starts speaking about spirituality, she gets me captivated with it, which is quite an achievement to be honest.

I have a question though, what is the soul family? Do we have to live in the same area to be part of the soul family?
It might be a naive question, but I ask this last one because we actually don't even live on the same continent. (we basically met while i was on vacation in the same city as her)

It's interesting you talk about multidimensional associations, because lately in recent scientific papers, scientists at CERN are (maybe) about to discover supersymmetry, which is basically extends the SM (Standard Model, not something else xD) of physics to include the mass of Higgs Boson. And it speaks about those particles that could exist in other dimensions.
As I read your answer, I quickly thought about extending this model to alternate realities, or Many Worlds interpretation.
All of this is still very early in their research advancement, but who knows someday science might actually discover something groundbreaking.

I have another question about "loading" each other : As we cannot interact IRL (as friends, nothing more), how do we achieve doing these dreams together?
I had another question but my mind hopped and the question went away, arghhh...

You've been working on it for a long time!
I'm not in a hurry tbh, everything comes right on time.
But it's crazy indeed! Even more now that I realise that these phenomenons occured a lot more than I thought, but everything kind of "rushed together" in early (march) 2015.

Thanks both of you Nine & Aubyanne

posted April 15, 2015 07:59 PM            

We dreamed of each other again last night.