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Topic: your basic asteroid toolkit
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18693 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 10, 2015 09:08 AM
If you had to limit yourself, which would be the asteroids you would include, your basic priority ones? IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 5854 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted April 10, 2015 10:13 AM
Depends on the context: Relationships: Eros, Lust, Psyche, Pallas, Vesta, Valentine and Karma. General interconnects either past life/lifetimes: Karma, Spirit, Fortuna, Aura and DNA.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18693 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 10, 2015 10:35 AM
Thanks, Ail. may I ask why you chose Pallas for the relationship-kit? IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 5854 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted April 10, 2015 10:57 AM
I chose Pallas because she represents finding balance and reason which is necessary in the emotional nature of romantic relationships especially ones with many stressful aspects once the Oxycontin starts to fade. Also Pallas herself represents incorporating the qualities of the opposite sex in ourselves which is something I believe is necessary for a sustainable relationship. Pallas at least in my research has shown up in cases where one or both partners are extremely independent in relationships so they don't realize they may be neglecting their partner not because they don't care or aren't attracted to them.IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 106 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 10, 2015 11:08 AM
From the list: Psyche, Amor, Eros, Cupido, Anteros, Priapus (I know, not an asteroid), Moira, my name asteroids and his if availableAdditional objects: Juno, Ceres, Vesta, Chiron, Pholus ------------------ My sister in arms presents... IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3141 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 10, 2015 05:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: I chose Pallas because she represents finding balance and reason which is necessary in the emotional nature of romantic relationships especially ones with many stressful aspects once the Oxycontin starts to fade.
Erm ... oxytocin. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1854 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 10, 2015 05:08 PM
Eros, Psyche, and Juno are my favorites. They seem to echo aspects of the 5th (Eros), 7th (Juno), and 8th (Psyche) houses.Other then that I'm also pretty fond of using Cupido, Valentine, Aphroidite, Fortuna, Hygiea, Iris, and recently Pomona. I have a massive list of asteroids that I use too numerous to list here. These are just a few of the standouts I look at. In reality I have many asteroids that I prefer to examine, kind of like flavors of the month. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11077 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 10, 2015 06:30 PM
My basic kit for romantic synastries (the first ones I check):Juno Ceres Vesta Pallas The Liliths and Priapus (not asteroids, excpt for Lilit but I include them here)+ Vertex Chiron and POF Eros and Psyche Amor Valentine Cupido Alma Karma Pholus ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner Connect for updates IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3141 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 10, 2015 06:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Other then that I'm also pretty fond of using Cupido ...
Really, Lotis? I'm intrigued. I've lately found that CUPIDO and PSYCHE has a lot of merit. Not that I'm ditching EROS, but I'm surprised how much CUPIDO (763) truly hits. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1854 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 11, 2015 02:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Really, Lotis? I'm intrigued. I've lately found that CUPIDO and PSYCHE has a lot of merit. Not that I'm ditching EROS, but I'm surprised how much CUPIDO (763) truly hits.
I've seen hits with Eros/Psyche. But Cupido/Psyche bascially means the same thing as a romantic pair, so yeah, I'd check Psyche against both Cupido and Eros. And I can see how Cupido/Psyche could be a valid pair. For some reason Eros feels intense and passionate to me, while Cupido is more playful, silly, and flirty. It's just a 'vibe' I'm picking up. But then again my Cupido is in Gemini, and my Eros is in Aquarius (weird that I still totally pick up on it as passionate). Maybe if Cupido was in Scorpio it' wouldn't feel so playful to me. So I'm not sure if I'm picking up on my natal Cupido placement or if the asteroid itself is usually more playful? IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1854 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 11, 2015 03:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Erm ... oxytocin.
I thought it was Endorphins? Falling in love is kind of like getting hooked on heroine. We got more opiates in our system. Not that heroine is good for you!(Duh! it's not) The opiates in our system when we fall in love are made naturally by our bodies. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11077 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 11, 2015 05:09 AM
Don't forget about Amor and Psyche as well IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 677 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 11, 2015 05:59 AM
Ceres, Pallas, Juno, Vesta, Chiron, Valentine, Amor, Eros, Psyche, Cupido (763 and h40), Isis, Osiris, Union, Destinn, Karma, Atlantis, Alma, Lust. Eventually name asteroids. ... At least. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18693 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 11, 2015 06:18 AM
Ail,thank you for the explanation on Pallas. Adding to that I have found her to be extremely and reliably active in my own chart (transits) if I am having spiritual experiences, very intense dreams or perceptions "out of the ordinary". I`ve been having a very intense week in that regard, so let me check if Pallas was doing something to my chart (as she usually does, when I am in that "mode" ) ------------- lol Pallas has JUST entered Capricorn and thus is on the AP (0°09 Cap), which means she triggers my natal Vesta on 1 Cap. the nodal axis is exact on my Pluto, which triggers the exact Pluto-Pallas-trine I have in my natal. Hmm could have been stronger I suppose, though I often notice a Pluto-Pallas activation in my own chart one way or the other. One of the strangest and strongest experiences I had some years ago, when the transiting Pluto-Pallas-conjunction was conjunct my Venus. That one was crazy! lol Anyway naturally since Mr Sag has Pallas-Psyche conjunction natally which falls onto my Psyche, it had me wondering what this Pallas exactly means. (0°18 and 1°11) And now I have to wonder what it means for ME, cause noticing that Mr Eyecandy has PALLAS conjunct my PSYCHE (1°47) and my PALLAS conjunct his EROS (0°19) - all of these in Aquarius naturally.
Yet even Mr Law fits into this to a smaller degree, as my PALLAS squares his PSYCHE (which is on my Draco EROS exact) (1°41) Looks like an individual pattern to me. What is it that keeps me paying attention to men which I apparently share a Pallas-Psyche-connection with?
To be honest the interlink with Mr Eyecandy floored me quite a bit seeing it, with the Eros/Psyche-connection bridged through Pallas. Not sure how to interprete it yet though. But it seems... intriguing. Also he has a widish Eros-Psyche-conjunction natally (3°41), so my PALLAS is also near his PSYCHE, but very widely (3°22) Nevertheless of course that means that the composite has the Pallas-Psyche-link as well (0°48) in mid Aquarius. it is also conjunct VESTA (all of them on 14 and 15 Aquarius). The Pallas thing intrigues me. lol IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 11, 2015 06:27 AM
Juno, Vesta, Eros, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Union, Karma, BML (h13)IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18693 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 11, 2015 06:33 AM
thank you all for your suggestions. As for Eros/Cupido/Amor I pay attention to them all.
EROS actually precedes the others, he was a primordial entity, long before someone made him the son of Venus. A god being present at the beginning of creation, and in fact signifying creation itself. The god all other gods, even Jupiter, ahve to answer. That was long before he was being "domesticated". EROS himself is a Leo (discovery chart). With a Mars-Pluto-conjunction in Gemini and a Venus-Jupiter-conjunction in Libra, Sun in Leo and Moon in Caner (domicile both!), and Eros himself in Aquarius and Psyche in Scorpio on each others antiscion. Funny enough the myth involving the love story with Psyche never names EROS, but it is always CUPIDO paired up with Psyche in the story, and occasionally AMOR. Maybe because the story was being written in a later date, when Eros was already incorporated into the Greek olympic pantheon, which he originally predated as primordial divine entity.
CUPIDO on the other hand is a Libra (and yes I also feel there is more of a playful vibe with him, though that does not make him a player ). Interestingly enough he almost shares a birthday with APHRODITE (one day apart) and more importantly maybe Cupido`s Sun is on 1 Libra, and hence being aligned with the AP and the SGC.
AMOR and PSYCHE are both Pisces, and if paired in synstry (which I have seen surprisingly often) they seem to relate to a very intimate emotional connection, very soulful, but not necessarily sexual. For me personal the signs are these: Eros: 20°59 Cancer / 8th - 54°12 N Cupido: 19°55 Leo / 8th - 13°56 N Amor: 02°08 Sag / 12th - 15°27 S Psyche: 24°02 Aquarius / 2nd - 14°03 S
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11077 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 11, 2015 08:00 AM
I forgot I always add Union and Lust in the first batch, thank you, Peluches IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18693 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 11, 2015 08:29 AM
I think my toolkit would be:Juno Vesta Ceres Pallas (possibly Pholus) Lilith and Priapus Eros Psyche Amor Cupido Valentine Lust Union Destinn (I know we disagree on this one, Leeloo but no matter if it relates to opera and music or destiny, well I am pretty sure at least for me personally it is part of my destiny. lol Sometimes I exchange it for Alma though) ------------------------------ additionally I always like to check for - Adonis and Aphrodite (possibly Ishtar) - Siva/Rudra - Parvati/Kaali - Isis-Osiris - and naturally for my beloved Arthur-Guinevere-Lancelot and Tristan-Isolde-Marc triad (it just struck me that Mr Eyecandy`s name actually is Mark as well, lol like the King who was betrayed by Tristan and Isolde, anyway I always wondered about this asteroid coming up on 8°57 Taurus in my chart in 5th house, and conjunct my Eros/Psyche-mp and Part of Marriage and even Lucifer, oh and asteroid Actor. But then again Arthur is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp, so I think my chart actually shows an inclination and preference to the husband, instead of the lover, in these triangles. Weird, isn`t it? ) IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 677 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 11, 2015 07:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I forgot I always add Union and Lust in the first batch, thank you, Peluches
You're welcome IP: Logged | |