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Plutonian-venus
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posted February 26, 2014 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian-venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which one, in your experience is the most reliable, with more validations in real life couples?
I noticed there are many differences and in my small experience Davidson showed me the REAL picture, while composite not so much.
What do you think? :-)

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posted February 26, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Plutonian-venus! Welcome to LL

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posted February 26, 2014 05:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian-venus:
Which one, in your experience is the most reliable, with more validations in real life couples?
I noticed there are many differences and in my small experience Davidson showed me the REAL picture, while composite not so much.
What do you think? :-)


I totally agree with you! The accuracy of midpoint composites has been exaggerated.

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posted February 26, 2014 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Composite chart

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posted February 26, 2014 06:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im leaning towards Davidson too.

Since I think it was a lot more accurate than the composite chart which was very meh...

Before the davidson I thought composites were hit or miss.

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posted February 26, 2014 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 26, 2014 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm all for Composite. When looking in comparison to real life scenarios, it fits more.

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posted February 26, 2014 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Davison, not Davidson.

They show different things, so using that perspective I don't think one is more accurate than the other. Ceridwen explained the differences to me not so long ago in this thread (scroll down the thread):
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224165.html

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posted February 26, 2014 08:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They don't show different things. They're both supposed to show the themes that manifest in a relationship. They use different techniques is all, and in my opinion the Davison gets it right more often than the midpoint comp does.

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posted February 27, 2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by page one:
They don't show different things. They're both supposed to show the themes that manifest in a relationship. They use different techniques is all, and in my opinion the Davison gets it right more often than the midpoint comp does.

True, they both show the "themes that manifest in a relationship." But like most things in astrology, there are differing interpretations. To me, if you believe the astrologers who think that the Davison is
"more about outside forces working on the relationship, while the composite is about the combined energies," then they show different things.

Certainly, it's the only way I can make any sense of why the charts can be so different from each other.

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posted February 27, 2014 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastry is the combined energies of two people lol.
Since both natal charts are interacting with each other.

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posted February 27, 2014 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say Davison.
It fits my relationships more.
I look at a composite and most of it doesn't seem right. Then I see a Davison and it clicks with what I already thought of the relationship.

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posted February 27, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
synastry is the combined energies of two people lol.
Since both natal charts are interacting with each other.


Of course. You might want to read the whole thread I linked to above. As I'm sure you know, "combined energy" in the composite is a reference to the midpoints, not the aspects of one person's natal to another, as in synastry.

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posted February 27, 2014 01:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
True, they both show the "themes that manifest in a relationship." But like most things in astrology, there are differing interpretations. To me, if you believe the astrologers who think that the Davison is
"more about outside forces working on the relationship, while the composite is about the combined energies," then they show different things.

Certainly, it's the only way I can make any sense of why the charts can be so different from each other.


The charts are different because the techniques are different. I think we're hearing some astrologers say that Davison vs midpoint composite show different things in a not very convincing effort to explain away that difference. The only thing that matters in the end is results. Which chart gives a more accurate view of the themes in a relationship? That's the one you should be using.

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posted February 27, 2014 01:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite highlights the angular relationships as they occur in the natal and the synastry.

The Davison does not do such thing.


While it is true they are charts of the relationships and on first glance seem to be different just in terms of their calculation (true), the fact that the composite is a mirror of existing angular relationships in the basc charts, and the DAvison is not, needs to be considered.


As for one chart is more acurate than the other often is dependent on the perspective of the observer more than anything.


in my preliminary opinion (and that one can change again) the composite highlights themes, derived from the natals and synastry, and as such can help finding a "red thread".

The Davison however seems to more depict the "mystical Third" (something that has been used as definition for the composite, too, which I think is plainly the wrong term; nothing mystical aobut the composite; anything`s just pure mathematics), which can be very different from what the individual people bring into the relationship, on the basis of their natals.

That is why I called the Davison having a more "fated" meaning (though it is a bit of a dumb expression I admit).
It is out of our control, something gets born between two people, that they maybe do not even want.

"I am peaceful, you are peaceful (natal parallel aspect of Moon conjunct Venus for example);
we love each other dearly (DW of Sun-Venus-harmonious aspect)
and yet, when we are in the same room, we want to rip each other`s throats out (Mars square Uranus, Pluto, Sun or Moon in Davison)."

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posted February 27, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been working with composite for a while. It took me very long to figure karmic links. Literally took several looks at natal to natal, composite to natal, draconic to natal...(argh).

In Davison, it just pops.

I'm guessing composite shows how the relationship is as a whole, being just the two.

Davison includes what you call, the unforeseeable and external factors.

I'm also guessing Davison would show how the relationship manifests at the initial stage because it feels fated....but eventually it settles more towards composite. Composite would show who works more towards keeping the relationship.

Just throwing out a speculation.

Delilah423 and Ceridwen would know more about it than I do.

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posted February 28, 2014 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In composites, you need to ceck the aspects to/between midpoints too , they often tells what might not be flat out obvious in the "visible" aspects.

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posted February 28, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plutonian-venus:
Which one, in your experience is the most reliable, with more validations in real life couples?
I noticed there are many differences and in my small experience Davidson showed me the REAL picture, while composite not so much.
What do you think? :-)


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Plutonian-venus
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posted February 28, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian-venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow thank you for all your kind replies :-)
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Hello Plutonian-venus! Welcome to LL

Thank you Lalalinda!!! :-)

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They show different things, so using that perspective I don't think one is more accurate than the other. Ceridwen explained the differences to me not so long ago in this thread (scroll down the thread): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224165.html[/quote]
Thank you for the link!
I really don't understand.
I have a composite that shows difficulties and a Davison that show some dificulties yes but also show the bright parts and the strong emotional tie these two persons have.
It may be that the composite shows the external factors that may interfere and the davison shows the relationship as a separate being...

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posted April 14, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

I've always used the composite midpoint chart.

Anyone else?

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Randall
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posted April 15, 2015 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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posted April 03, 2022 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LaceyLeigh
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posted April 03, 2022 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love how this was bump twice in April of two different years.

I think both are important when going over a relationship.

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posted April 03, 2022 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree ^ but my preference is the combined composite. In progressed too.

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Randall
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posted April 13, 2022 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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