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Topic: Why did he pick her over me?
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 05:52 AM
I know there's no point in dwelling on this anymore. But I'm just curious as to what you can see astrologically. I kinda know why nothing happened between us though, he said it was because our cultures were too different. I told him how I came from a very conservative and strict background, but I was open and completely different from the rest of culture - the black sheep of the family I guess. I didn't drink at the time either and was very shy/introverted. Not anymore though heh. I think that made him think I was boring. :/ or atleast too sheltered. But I could tell he still had feelings for me and probably still does... even though he never verbalized it until I asked him. But his actions, the way he cared for me, the way he would gaze at me and be so attentive, etc, it all showed it. So then how can he just move onto another girl so quickly like that? He still kept in touch with me after getting together with her though, I guess he still considered me a friend and wanted me in his life. But I deleted his number and removed him as a friend on facebook because of how hurt I was. Since then there's bern no contact. Anyways, Is his synastry with her really that much stronger than his synastry with mine? Her birth time is unknown though. Could it be possible that he still has feelings for me? For some reason I don't believe he truly loves her, he's only with her for a fear of being alone and possibly security reasons. He was moving away anyways, and he knew I wouldn't be able to move in with him (yet). My natal: His natal: Her natal (her birth time is unknown): His synastry with me:
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11246 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 16, 2015 05:59 AM
I'll take a closer look later, but just wanted to say you have a very pretty and strong chart, NV ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner Connect for updates IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3313 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 16, 2015 06:00 AM
Because he's a ******* . But don't worry; most boys are until they become men. (Which is a very controversial topic.) IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11246 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 16, 2015 06:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: (Which is a very controversial topic.)
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LexusVirgo Knowflake Posts: 318 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 06:15 AM
He's not attracted to her as much as you . His Venus conjunction your Mars he likes you. It's in your 12th. I had this with a person and he looked loved me secretly for a very long time. The only thing I see I. His and her chart is Venus conjunction Jupiter. I always check Venus aspects in synastry because it's what attracts two pplIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61743 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 16, 2015 08:34 AM
You have Moon sq Moon. The person on the outside has ONE Moon aspect to the other person and that is the square. This is not a warm fuzzy/warm heart relationship imo------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 513 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted April 16, 2015 08:42 AM
Saturn in the 8th for you natal and with your synastry - could there be blocks with intimacy or timing?IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1625 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted April 16, 2015 08:53 PM
perhaps if you were both older it'd be different and he'd like your placements as they align with his. but men are often led by their venus and moon, and with a moon in aries he'd be drawn to a fire/outgoing woman and she seems to have a lot of sag in her chart, which would appeal to the aries moon. your moon and his aren't in good position and you might be too similar (shy) and he's wanting the opposite of that because of his moonIP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3313 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 16, 2015 11:21 PM
Oh, wow, NV. His SATURN does overlay your 8H. Had you ever felt apprehensive about him?For the record, with my Twin, there was a 'breaking in' period. We tried to get together as quickly as we could, but that iteration was unsustainable. For 2 years, we instead stayed very close friends as I worked to resolve things with my 'brother' (for lack of better). Since we resumed our relationship in 2013, we've been solid, however. It might need some time to find its footing. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 11:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I'll take a closer look later, but just wanted to say you have a very pretty and strong chart, NV
Aw thanks Lee What makes you say that? IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 11:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Because he's a ******* . But don't worry; most boys are until they become men. (Which is a very controversial topic.)
Heh, true dat true dat. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 11:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by LexusVirgo: He's not attracted to her as much as you . His Venus conjunction your Mars he likes you. It's in your 12th. I had this with a person and he looked loved me secretly for a very long time. The only thing I see I. His and her chart is Venus conjunction Jupiter. I always check Venus aspects in synastry because it's what attracts two ppl
Hi LexusVirgo, thanks for looking. Yes he has liked me for 4 years now that I think back on it... I was just oblivious to it until we met in person. We were tumblr friends before that lol. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 11:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: You have Moon sq Moon. The person on the outside has ONE Moon aspect to the other person and that is the square. This is not a warm fuzzy/warm heart relationship imo
Our friendship was very sweet though. We were both equally caring and warm towards one another. Never ever had an argument or disagreement, other than the day I ended things with him. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 16, 2015 11:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ann7: Saturn in the 8th for you natal and with your synastry - could there be blocks with intimacy or timing?
Hm, I think bad timing could have been the issue. When he was into me, I was oblivious. When I was into him, he became distant. No blocks with intimacy though (atleast not on my part). IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 17, 2015 12:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: perhaps if you were both older it'd be different and he'd like your placements as they align with his. but men are often led by their venus and moon, and with a moon in aries he'd be drawn to a fire/outgoing woman and she seems to have a lot of sag in her chart, which would appeal to the aries moon. your moon and his aren't in good position and you might be too similar (shy) and he's wanting the opposite of that because of his moon
Thanks for looking starmoon, You're right, if we were both older I think it definitely would have worked out. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 17, 2015 12:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Oh, wow, NV. His SATURN does overlay your 8H. Had you ever felt apprehensive about him?For the record, with my Twin, there was a 'breaking in' period. We tried to get together as quickly as we could, but that iteration was unsustainable. For 2 years, we instead stayed very close friends as I worked to resolve things with my 'brother' (for lack of better). Since we resumed our relationship in 2013, we've been solid, however. It might need some time to find its footing.
Apprehensive? No actually. We were both very open with eachother when it came to private stuff. But never crossed the line into anything romantic. You know how before I told you I felt the need to "save" myself for Virgo guy? Well when I met moon boy, I found myself opening up and feeling more comfortable with the "8th house" part of myself. I was ready to give him my all. Never did I consider getting intimate with anyone else before (apart from virgo guy of course), until I met moon boy. Maybe that could be it.
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Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted April 17, 2015 07:03 PM
I think he has good synastry with both of you, and at first glance I'd say that yours is better. However, I think that all of that Cancer in your charts made both of you too passive to spark up a relationship. As Starmoon pointed out his Aries Moon probably needs a fiery woman that will take charge. Cancer men tend to be passive and usually won't make a move unless they know the woman is interested. The Scorpio probably went after him, since Scorpio women tend to set their sights on one person, and obsessively pursue that person. Without knowing her birth time, it's difficult to know what areas of her chart he is lighting up. As a Scorpio I can attest to the natural compatibility between Scorpio and Cancer Suns. I attract Cancers like crazy. I actually share several of her placements...Scorpio Sun, Mercury, and Sagittarius Mars...all almost to the exact degree. My ex of 14 years has four of the same personal planets as this guy...Cancer Sun and Mercury, an Aries Moon, and Virgo Mars. Even though several of those planets aren't making aspects in their synastry, there is still a similarity of energy between them. It comes down to what type of partner they are both looking for based on their natals, rather than actual aspects within orb. I think that ultimately it's her fiery Mars and Venus that appealed to him as a fire Moon, along with her Scorpio planets. I know my ex would never be with a passive or shy woman, and arguing is like foreplay to him. I attribute that to his Aries Moon, since they tend to be drawn to feisty women that aren't afraid to stand up to them. IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 17, 2015 08:25 PM
I think it would be interesting to compare the composites to the natals, to see how each of the relationships affect him. I haven't gone through everything, but for now :cSUN of your composite falls on your ASC. cSUN of their composite falls on his ASC. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1885 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 17, 2015 08:42 PM
^^ wow yea that might be a verrrry strong one! Well, I have this with my new crush, the Compo Sun *exactly* on my ASC! I somehow have this feeling it's stronger from my side... or it's just my Moon/Mars square (aries vibe) that makes me verrry impatient.. dunno yet!Edit@ Aaghh.. ofcourse... it's my ASC probably to the Compo Sun... which makes me so "DRIVEN" to him.. (I guess) .. but I don't feel any reluctance from his side to that state of mine. Just LESS driven... red flag now I think about it IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 17, 2015 08:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by mir: ^^ wow yea that might be a verrrry strong one! Well, I have this with my new crush, the Compo Sun *exactly* on my ASC! I somehow have this feeling it's stronger from my side... or it's just my Moon/Mars square (aries vibe) that makes me verrry impatient.. dunno yet!
I'm still not sure what is the actual reason for this huge effect. Is it the cSUN, the heart of the relationship, playing a part ? But then we'll have to include the cMOON and cASC, which are as important as the cSUN... Or is it the ASC ? Or both ? Hard to tell. I can't even figure it out with mine (unreciprocated on his side) : cSUN, cNNODE and cMOON all conjunct my PHOLUS. cASC and cISIS/OSIRIS midpoint conjunct my NNODE. cVENUS conjunct my ASC. No contacts (involving the above, that is) whatsoever to his natal, except maybe for : cVENUS conjunct his SUN/MOON midpoint and APOLLO. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1885 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 17, 2015 09:34 PM
How funny Peluches.. the Compo ASC is *exactly* on my natal SN But.. he has also some pretty strong connections to his natal... (list them later). Ok (copy/past from another thread recently about Compo/natal connections);
quote: David Cochrane (the inventer of its significance I would say) says about this specific correlation (compo planet/point conjunct natal planet/point);quote: "This balancing point seems to be a positive point of fulfillment for person A, and almost equally fulfilling for Person B who feels the inclination o provide the qualitiy of that planet in relationship to the planet in person As chart" (p. 172) More about it in this thread; ]http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219549.html
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 17, 2015 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bluejay: I think he has good synastry with both of you, and at first glance I'd say that yours is better. However, I think that all of that Cancer in your charts made both of you too passive to spark up a relationship. As Starmoon pointed out his Aries Moon probably needs a fiery woman that will take charge. Cancer men tend to be passive and usually won't make a move unless they know the woman is interested. The Scorpio probably went after him, since Scorpio women tend to set their sights on one person, and obsessively pursue that person. Without knowing her birth time, it's difficult to know what areas of her chart he is lighting up. As a Scorpio I can attest to the natural compatibility between Scorpio and Cancer Suns. I attract Cancers like crazy. I actually share several of her placements...Scorpio Sun, Mercury, and Sagittarius Mars...all almost to the exact degree. My ex of 14 years has four of the same personal planets as this guy...Cancer Sun and Mercury, an Aries Moon, and Virgo Mars. Even though several of those planets aren't making aspects in their synastry, there is still a similarity of energy between them. It comes down to what type of partner they are both looking for based on their natals, rather than actual aspects within orb. I think that ultimately it's her fiery Mars and Venus that appealed to him as a fire Moon, along with her Scorpio planets. I know my ex would never be with a passive or shy woman, and arguing is like foreplay to him. I attribute that to his Aries Moon, since they tend to be drawn to feisty women that aren't afraid to stand up to them.
That makes sooo much sense. Yes she is very firey and dominant. But I sense eventually it will get too draining for him. Pluto just went stationary retro on his natal Venus btw. I don't think he's happy. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 18, 2015 02:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Peluches: I think it would be interesting to compare the composites to the natals, to see how each of the relationships affect him. I haven't gone through everything, but for now :cSUN of your composite falls on your ASC. cSUN of their composite falls on his ASC.
Of course! The composite - natal aspects reveal a lot from what I've observed. Check out how strongly my natal is triggered (Some of its wide orbed but I think it's still relevant considering how I attached I was) C. Sun conj my ASC 2' C. Moon conj my SN 3' C. Mercury conj my ASC 4' C. Venus conj my Sun 3' C. Mars conj my ASC 4' C. Jupiter conj Pluto 2' C. NN conj my IC 2' C. NN conj my Jupiter 0' Asteroids: C. DESC conj my Karma 2' C. Ceres conj my ASC 1' C. Karma opp my Venus 2' C. Amor conj my SN 2' C. Juno conj my Pluto 0' Our composite - His Natal C. IC conj his Pluto 0' C. MC conj his Sun/Moon mp 0' C. Uranus opp his Sun 1' C. Neptune opp his Sun 1' C. Juno conj his Pluto 2'
Asteroids: C. Mercury conj his Atropos 1' C. Mars conj his Atropos 1' C. Vesta conj his Sun 3' C. Union opp his Moon 3' C. Valentine opp his Moon 0' C. Psyche conj his Moon 2' --- Their composite - Her Natal (I haven't included the moon since it may be off due to her unknown birth time) C. Sun conj her Sun 4' C. Mars conj her Mercury 1' C. Jupiter conj her Mars 1' Their composite - His Natal C. Sun conjunct his ASC 1' C. Mercury opposite his Vertex 0' C. Venus conjunct his ASC 4' C. Venus conjunct his Mars 1' ouch... lol C. Venus opposite his Saturn 1' C. Mars conjunct his NN 4' C. Saturn conjunct his DESC 0' C. Karma conjunct his Venus 0' I guess he was meant to experience a relationship with her
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 18, 2015 02:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir:
Aaghh.. ofcourse... it's my ASC probably to the Compo Sun... which makes me so "DRIVEN" to him.. (I guess) .. but I don't feel any reluctance from his side to that state of mine. Just LESS driven... red flag now I think about it
Tell me about it, sister. Now you know how I feel. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 18, 2015 03:09 AM
Our Composite: Their Composite: (Angles and possibly Moon may be off) IP: Logged |