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Aquarian Moon
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posted April 18, 2015 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friendship with a friend (let's call him "S") is becoming really intense. Because I am studying astrology as well, I'm going to try to interpret our synastry, but I would love some input from you guys if there is anything you like to add with your own experience and expertise on any of the aspects.

Sun trine Sun – Easy enough aspect that compliments the ego.

Sun conjunct Moon – We feel at ease in each others' presence. Not romantic, but it helps us get along with each other. We make a good team.

Moon sextile Moon – I'd say our emotional needs are different, but complimentary. We are quite open with our feelings and he does not judge me.

My Venus quintiles his Sun – I like the way he carries himself. I find him very handsome, to be honest.

His Moon trines my Venus – Slowly, but surely he is opening up to me which is not something he does with anyone, ever.

Our Mercuries quintile – We have rather engaging conversations, much of which tend to bring us down a rabbit hole regarding taboo topics and occultism, but, his Mercury squares my Sun. I find him intriguing, yet abrasive, judgmental, and abrupt in his opinions.

Now for the intense stuff:

His Venus squares my Pluto – When we first met, he did intrigue me, but I didn't fall in love. He on the other hand became obsessed with me. He finally told me he is in love with me and wants me to get me pregnant. I'm not kidding! He sort of threw himself on my feet which is not something he has done with other women. Do I like the attention? YES. Do I love him? I care for him, but I am concerned that he may see me as something I'm not.

My Sun squares his Neptune – I've read negative interpretations of this. This is why I'm not sure if I can trust him. He is just so very mysterious and despite him opening up to me more than he has with most people, I still feel like there is more to him then what he is allowing me to see. I don't know if he is being himself around me.

His Moon conjuncts my Pholus – I'm not sure how this is effecting him exactly, but he has been showing me some intense emotions since he came out with his feelings.

My Juno conjuncts his Pluto – Not sure what this means, but it could be one of the reasons he has fallen for me.

My Eros loosely trines his Venus and quintiles his Psyche exact – I interpret this as me driving him wild sexually. ^^

My Hades conjuncts his Persephone – I heard this is like a Venus/Pluto aspect in behavior.

My Sun Squares his Saturn – He is quite dominating with me. He wants to own me.

Other than the Venus/Pluto, is there something else in our synastry that he making him crazy for me?

Our synastry:

I'm blue. Birth time is accurate for both.

edit - unticked all aspect lines

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ilunatique
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posted April 18, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
obsessed
mysterious
I don't know if he is being himself around me.
dominating
wants to own me


Personally, i don't find this healthy or fine.

I have been through this before.. I thought it was pure love.. with him being all over me... but in reality he wasn't mentally fine. At all.
Your juno in scorpio most probably shows what you are looking for.. to feel that you belong to someone which is possessive and all that scorpionic blabbery.
You like his intensity and all that...i understand, it sounds extraordinary, but do you think that a normal person would act like this when you're just..... friends? Of course you will think that this is true love, but you can never know. People dont belong to other people. You are not an object.

How do you know that he didnt do the same to other women?

If he wants you to be his so bad..., i feel that its only his desire to control. As long as he will have you under some sort of control thanks to his incredible affirmations, he will be happy and want more and more in time.
Some people have masks... and are simply fake. Some use people with them. He can show you his I love you forever you are mine etc mask, show to the rest of the world the I'm a normal guy mask but in reality he wouldnt be anything of that.
I would honestly try him. I would tell him No, go away or im not interested. If he turns in a victim and uses excessive dramatization, crying, then he is not fine. If he already uses the I'm the victim here and im dying if you wont love me back, he is not fine.
don't let strangers manipulate you with sweets. i know you're a sweetheart libra but still.


just my 5 cents
take care x

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted April 18, 2015 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think you should distance yourself from him asap.

His Moon-Nessus opposition tied to your Pholus looks dangerous. Btw, it would help if you unticked "aspect lines to all".

Maybe this pregnancy thing has something to do with: your Ceres conjunct his Nessus
his Ceres-Pholus opposite your Neptune

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Aubyanne
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posted April 18, 2015 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your HADES is conjunct his PERSEPHONE, and you have no desire to 'take him through the Underworld' and to exact a deep, transformative change.

Fascinating.

Perhaps HADES energy is not easily accessed, and it takes time to awaken it? Or it may be more active from a male to a female (or masculine to feminine) chart? I wonder.

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Aubyanne
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posted April 18, 2015 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ilunatique:
obsessed
mysterious
I don't know if he is being himself around me.
dominating
wants to own me

Personally, i don't find this healthy or fine.

I have been through this before.. I thought it was pure love.. with him being all over me... but in reality he wasn't mentally fine. At all.


Proud of you, L.

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Aquarian Moon
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posted April 18, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ilunatique:
obsessed
mysterious
I don't know if he is being himself around me.
dominating
wants to own me


Personally, i don't find this healthy or fine.

I have been through this before.. I thought it was pure love.. with him being all over me... but in reality he wasn't mentally fine. At all.
Your juno in scorpio most probably shows what you are looking for.. to feel that you belong to someone which is possessive and all that scorpionic blabbery.
You like his intensity and all that...i understand, it sounds extraordinary, but do you think that a normal person would act like this when you're just..... friends? Of course you will think that this is true love, but you can never know. People dont belong to other people. You are not an object.

How do you know that he didnt do the same to other women?

If he wants you to be his so bad..., i feel that its only his desire to control. As long as he will have you under some sort of control thanks to his incredible affirmations, he will be happy and want more and more in time.
Some people have masks... and are simply fake. Some use people with them. He can show you his I love you forever you are mine etc mask, show to the rest of the world the I'm a normal guy mask but in reality he wouldnt be anything of that.
I would honestly try him. I would tell him No, go away or im not interested. If he turns in a victim and uses excessive dramatization, crying, then he is not fine. If he already uses the I'm the victim here and im dying if you wont love me back, he is not fine.
don't let strangers manipulate you with sweets. i know you're a sweetheart libra but still.


just my 5 cents
take care x


I'm use to obsessive love. I love when Pluto touches my chart. Now I'm the Pluto, and somehow that makes me feel...powerful?

It's most likely not healthy that he is attached to me. He is 25. I'm 33. The age difference may not be a big deal to some, but I like my men a bit older.

He intrigues me though. He is Plutonic by nature. I'm Plutonic by nature. We get each other, but when things get too intense, I disappear for a while (I need some serious space! Venus Conjunct Uranus natally). Then I somehow see him again and he tells me he misses me.

It's like a cat and mouse game. I'm not the mouse, by the way. I'm just observing him for now. What we have is not a friendship in the traditional sense, obviously haha. I don't know what to call him.

I want him, but something tells me to hold off for now. It's like the best drug in the world, but what happens after? Rotten teeth?

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Aquarian Moon
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posted April 18, 2015 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:

I think you should distance yourself from him asap.

His Moon-Nessus opposition tied to your Pholus looks dangerous. Btw, it would help if you unticked "aspect lines to all".

Maybe this pregnancy thing has something to do with: your Ceres conjunct his Nessus
his Ceres-Pholus opposite your Neptune


Maybe. I never had someone tell me that, ever. I'm just trying to make sense of where his obsession with me is coming from.

All Aspects unticked.

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Aquarian Moon
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posted April 18, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Your HADES is conjunct his PERSEPHONE, and you have no desire to 'take him through the Underworld' and to exact a deep, transformative change.

Fascinating.

Perhaps HADES energy is not easily accessed, and it takes time to awaken it? Or it may be more active from a male to a female (or masculine to feminine) chart? I wonder.


I feel as those I do have a lot of power over him without really trying. I do not mean power struggles for dominance. More like, I can destroy his heart if I really wanted to.

I do not want to hurt him. I do want him, but if we have sex, it will change everything. We will be bonded and that's not something I can just turn my back on even if I wanted to.

He is intriguing, beautiful, and telling me all these obsessive things that make me feel like whoa, he waking up a deep part of me. I like the attention, but there is a fine line between danger and excitement. I'm not sure where the road will lead to if we both pursue what he wants.

I DO want to show him "my underworld" (the ways of loving from an older woman ), but again I hesitate because of what the possible outcome would be. I do not want to be irresponsible with his heart.

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starmoon
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posted April 18, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if the times are right this doesn't look romantic-y. you have a sun/moon, but both people have strong stelliums, especially the Cap person, so the planets will occupy just a few houses, as they do. in this case your overlays hit 9-11 mainly, with a few things in 8 (mars, notably). just based on the overlays i'd give it more of a friendly outcome, a relationship where learning, education,and friendship/conversations figure in, but not a deep love. the reason for any obsessive behavior is likely stemming from the venus/pluto in scorpio, and the cap tendency to hold on to stuff, much like a scorpio would

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ReachingForTheStars
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posted April 18, 2015 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Aquarian Moon!

What is it with these 90's boys?! lol.

This is the second synastry I've seen here with these stellium squares. The other person seeking insight was a female 90's child asking about someone with similar placements to yours. She reported feeling these same deep feelings your friend has confessed having. Poor girl!

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ReachingForTheStars
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posted April 18, 2015 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmoon:
if the times are right this doesn't look romantic-y. you have a sun/moon, but both people have strong stelliums, especially the Cap person, so the planets will occupy just a few houses, as they do. in this case your overlays hit 9-11 mainly, with a few things in 8 (mars, notably). just based on the overlays i'd give it more of a friendly outcome, a relationship where learning, education,and friendship/conversations figure in, but not a deep love. the reason for any obsessive behavior is likely stemming from the venus/pluto in scorpio, and the cap tendency to hold on to stuff, much like a scorpio would

Lotis White has this theory of secondary houses... I believe in it! Soooo, with that considered and if TOB is accurate, aquarian moon has sag on the cusp of her 8th house making the 9th house her secondary 8th. This 9th house overlay could potentially take on an 8th house vibe. His 9th house is his secondary 11th, so the 9-11 description may more accurately describe this overlay which could be indicative of a deeper affinity since most of his cap stellium is in his 11th house. This is my novice understanding...

I've only seen this theory applied to the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

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Aquarian Moon
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posted April 19, 2015 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
Hey Aquarian Moon!

What is it with these 90's boys?! lol.


I have no idea! -laughs-

I'm not even into younger men and somehow this scamp shows up and changes my mind, albeit temporarily.

Human nature is strange and Astrology is just a means of explaining it.

Yep, there is a fascination on my side. I do hope he finds a woman who has strong, mutual feelings for him. He deserves that. As for me, I am flattered. I'm starting to realize that I should let this one go very gently.

Your chart with your interest does look similar. I hope he was able to move on without making you feel uncomfortable.

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ReachingForTheStars
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posted April 19, 2015 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
I have no idea! -laughs-

I'm not even into younger men and somehow this scamp shows up and changes my mind, albeit temporarily.


Nor am I! Lol! I ignored him for a good while... Flattered by his attention, but mostly in disbelief by the attraction. I thought it was some passing immature thing, and really idk what it was. I associated him with a maturity I felt the need to act responsibly with (parent or dare I say mommy it in a way - ew I said it). In other words, it didn't feel like equals. I felt like a school teacher that needed to gently handle the innocently misplaced emotions of a grade school child.... You know?! Outside of the fact that I'm married, I seen him at a stage in life where he needed to have experiences of someone in his 20's and not make compromises to be with someone getting serious about life.

I felt all of this,

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
I do not want to hurt him. I do want him, but if we have sex, it will change everything. We will be bonded and that's not something I can just turn my back on even if I wanted to.

Lawd! Did I feel the same way!! Lol! I can tell you are feeling that "responsibility" to "handle with care" the feelings of someone who may not himself have the maturity and insight to see the big picture like you are. He sounds like he has that innocent but sometimes unrealistic optimism of young people. That isn't something I trust.

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
He is intriguing, beautiful, and telling me all these obsessive things that make me feel like whoa, he waking up a deep part of me. I like the attention, but there is a fine line between danger and excitement. I'm not sure where the road will lead to if we both pursue what he wants.

**sighs!!** yup!

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
I DO want to show him "my underworld" (the ways of loving from an older woman ), but again I hesitate because of what the possible outcome would be. I do not want to be irresponsible with his heart.

I'm starting to realize that I should let this one go very gently.


I totally get it! Probably easier sooner than later. In my gemini opinion, it's better not to let the curiosity, intrigue, fascination, get the best of you. It's easy to get attached to certain ideas, justify desires... Especially when the right circumstances are present... Some distance may help. This is a head over heart matter. I am not too great with these situations, so I wish you well.

As far as my person of interest, I don't think he's seriously attached to anyone. He was very shy, but respectful. We never crossed any lines. He's been mostly involved in flings. The cap dominance makes me wonder though about the older woman thing... (And there goes my gemini brain) I've always felt more comfortable in the presence of older people. Lol

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