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Topic: Professional or Romantic?
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 08, 2015 09:05 PM
I met this guy recently and I'm super attracted, but from what I've read, all those 8th house overlays and Cap/Saturn between us turns this into a business partnership vs. romantic. Are there any strong indicators of a romantic union instead?Both birthtimes are 100% accurate SYNASTRY
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comdoc Knowflake Posts: 121 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 09, 2015 01:32 AM
Who is red? How about Moon--Amor and Venus--Neptune--Uranus in 8th House? Mars--NN in 7H, Jupiter--Juno, Amor--Eros. Earth ASC's in trine: you look great together. quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: I met this guy recently and I'm super attracted, but from what I've read, all those 8th house overlays and Cap/Saturn between us turns this into a business partnership vs. romantic. Are there any strong indicators of a romantic union instead?[b]Both birthtimes are 100% accurate SYNASTRY
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3429 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 09, 2015 04:02 AM
That is highly possible, Yan. I had the same thing with my twin ray. It never fully jumped from a professional into a romantic association. We've got the same highly concentrated stellium -- in Scorpio, no less! And the 1H. But tonnes of SATURN in synastry. It may've been messing with the whole thing, being conjunct PLUTO -- the chart ruler. So, in my personal experience, nearly a decade, and it's still a business relationship which we keep returning to. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 09, 2015 02:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by comdoc: Who is red? How about Moon--Amor and Venus--Neptune--Uranus in 8th House? Mars--NN in 7H, Jupiter--Juno, Amor--Eros. Earth ASC's in trine: you look great together.
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 09, 2015 02:08 PM
I can certainly feel the attraction between us, but our synastry doesn't look too great. We have tons of minor aspects in play. Is our synastry as bad as I'm viewing it? My moon is badly aspected by ALL of his Capricorn placements. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3429 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 09, 2015 03:02 PM
It's not that, Yan, so much as SATURN requires a sledgehammer to clear. Few relationships can go the distance, but even less will put in the effort needed to come together against major obstacles. So it's all up to how it's approached. SATURN won't mess around, either. If it's got the potential for serious, even lifelong commitment, it'll go there. If that's remotely within the questionable range, the whole thing is likely to fall short of what's necessary. Usually because one -- or both -- partners put on the brakes. Typically, SATURN. What's the story with you two? IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 09, 2015 04:49 PM
You see a lot of Saturn between us besides his obvious Cap stellium or is that what you were referring to?He's been pursuing ne for weeks & won't let up and he just started to grow on me after awhile. It wasn't the annoying approach most guys come with. It was more of someone going after what he wants. I find him insanely attractive.. it all came suddenly. What's going on with uranus/ neptune conjunctions between us? Generational? Venus-Uranus/Neptune are exact. His Karma sesiquare my ASC exact. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3429 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 09, 2015 10:53 PM
Hm. I think it could go either way. I was madly pursued for years, but when I finally responded, he couldn't handle it. Within a year, we came completely apart. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 10, 2015 09:01 AM
Thanks Aubyanne! How does our composite look?
How do you think all that 8th house synastry will play out? How bad is a badly aspected moon in synastry? IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 10, 2015 11:54 AM
i think the blue person would just want professional and the red would push to make it romantic. that's based on the overlays. you've got two people - each with a stellium, but the problem is that only one stellium really shows the romance (to the 8th house). the other person would just see the person as business/professional. the composite has the vertex near the DSC, but i think too much 9th house composite takes away from that. 9th house meaning you'll be a great learning influence on one another, perhaps through work, education, travel, culture, etc. thumbs down for a great romance, although men will rarely reject someone willing to sleep with them ;-) the scorpio/cp mixes very well together actually, because they are both very stable and secure partners, but i think - in this case - you'd have one person more invested than the other. imo.IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 10, 2015 12:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: i think the blue person would just want professional and the red would push to make it romantic. that's based on the overlays. you've got two people - each with a stellium, but the problem is that only one stellium really shows the romance (to the 8th house). the other person would just see the person as business/professional. the composite has the vertex near the DSC, but i think too much 9th house composite takes away from that. 9th house meaning you'll be a great learning influence on one another, perhaps through work, education, travel, culture, etc. thumbs down for a great romance, although men will rarely reject someone willing to sleep with them ;-) the scorpio/cp mixes very well together actually, because they are both very stable and secure partners, but i think - in this case - you'd have one person more invested than the other. imo.
Even with that moon conjunct pluto in composite? I'm still very attracted despite him only touching my 8th house and me his 10th. I still am 80% Scorpio so I guess that helps the house overlays go both ways in my opinion. I can still sense every bit of the intensity and underlying depth between us. The main thing I see is my poorly aspected Moon in our synastry squaring almost his entire chart. What significance does this have? We also have moon square saturn in composite but I've had this before with someone along with the conjunctiob from Pluto abd it only showed up after 3 years of our relationship being over. He desperately wanted me back and I did too, but I just did not feel the same. My feelings had died but that attachment is still there. Is this scenario common with moon-square saturn/conjunct pluto in composite? IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 10, 2015 09:05 PM
Are house overlays THAT important?IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 10, 2015 11:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: Are house overlays THAT important?
yes, which is why decent astrologers won't read a chart with inaccurate TOBs - you can't see the houses if TOB is wrong. you "view" someone through the lens of a particular house. so, for example, if 3 of your planets land in someone's 10th house (of career) they will see you through the lens of that house - as someone important to their career, as a work buddy, etc. as another example, if someone has 3 planets that land in your 7th (of marriage/partnerships), you will see that person through that house - as a potential partner, or having partner traits you like/admire. the house overlays influence how you view one another, and if one person is impacted through all 'romantic houses' (1/5/7/8) and the other more friendly/professional (2/6/10/11), you have two people viewing the relationship in very different ways. which is why we often end up with people feeling quite differently about one another; they don't see the person the same way because of where the planets fall. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 11, 2015 07:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: yes, which is why decent astrologers won't read a chart with inaccurate TOBs - you can't see the houses if TOB is wrong. you "view" someone through the lens of a particular house. so, for example, if 3 of your planets land in someone's 10th house (of career) they will see you through the lens of that house - as someone important to their career, as a work buddy, etc. as another example, if someone has 3 planets that land in your 7th (of marriage/partnerships), you will see that person through that house - as a potential partner, or having partner traits you like/admire. the house overlays influence how you view one another, and if one person is impacted through all 'romantic houses' (1/5/7/8) and the other more friendly/professional (2/6/10/11), you have two people viewing the relationship in very different ways. which is why we often end up with people feeling quite differently about one another; they don't see the person the same way because of where the planets fall.
So the synastry doesn't matter at all? If the house overlays aren't romantic, it definitely won't be a romantic partnership? What if the composite turns out to have a ton of 'romantic' aspects? Those house overlays hold that much weight? Interesting. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 11, 2015 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: So the synastry doesn't matter at all? If the house overlays aren't romantic, it definitely won't be a romantic partnership? What if the composite turns out to have a ton of 'romantic' aspects? Those house overlays hold that much weight? Interesting.
well, house overlays are a part of synastry, so they matter. they are part of the overall chart. you need to see many things in synastry, not just house overlays, but also how the planets aspect one another, and how the natal charts look. it's a complete picture. house overlays support synastry, they are another component. composite... it can have every wonderful aspect in the world, but how does a couple make it to a composite chart when they have medicore synastry? if you can't get to initial attraction/romance you won't get to a composite IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 11, 2015 10:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: well, house overlays are a part of synastry, so they matter. they are part of the overall chart. you need to see many things in synastry, not just house overlays, but also how the planets aspect one another, and how the natal charts look. it's a complete picture. house overlays support synastry, they are another component.composite... it can have every wonderful aspect in the world, but how does a couple make it to a composite chart when they have medicore synastry? if you can't get to initial attraction/romance you won't get to a composite
So if the entire synastry has to be taken into account, why do you put so much emphasis on house overlays? IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 11, 2015 05:30 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11627 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 11, 2015 05:43 PM
Post Placidus please. Equal doesn't show the correct overlays.IP: Logged |