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DeeMonroe
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posted May 26, 2015 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeeMonroe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found out my mother's time of birth today. Our synastry is crazy, so many oppositions and squares. It explains our turbulent relationship.

Is it bad to say that when we don't speak, everything is fine but when we come together it's always drama.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 26, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Except for Pluto Saturn perhaps (issues with authority) it doesn't look like a very conflictual synastry to me, to be honest.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 27, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The issue starts with you two as individuals and then it boils over when you two combine.

When it comes to difficult relationships, I look to Mars/Uranus/Saturn/Sun and Pluto. These planets tend to be domineering or want a great deal of independence and/or autonomy.

If they are placed in the 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th, it is likely that the individual grew up with strong sense of self and doesn't take too kindly to people telling them what to do.

If in the 6th/7th, there is a tendency to feel that other people are your enemies or get in your way and the 10th is the reputation or what we leave in the "wake" of our interactions with others..

I included the 7th here because a close friends can also turn into an open enemy.

You have Pluto in 1st, Uranus in 2nd and Saturn in 3rd.

Saturn only respects people that they deem "worthy", but Pluto in 1st and Uranus in 2nd suggests that you came into your own early on and craved independence and being your own boss.

So both planets are not too fond of parental guidance- no matter how well-meaning. And can be downright resistant of authority.

Now the irony here is that with Sun in the 10th, you are likely an authority figure to others(or at-least perceived as such).

The domineering nature that you may resent from your mother, is reflected in the reputation that you tend to make for yourself (Sun in 10th).

You may be levitated to be the one in charge as others often assume that you will take on that role in any case- especially with your Sun in Leo.

Now your mother is quite the handful herself but in a differing way;

She has the Sun in the 1st house and really came to know herself quite early on too.

But with her Sun in Aquarius, it is likely that she desired to be more in charge of herself than others.

Sun in Aquarius is really a rebel and independent thinker at heart.They just want to be left alone to do their own thing and answer only to themselves.

So with Sun in the 1st house,this position affords them that ability.Or at the very least the courage to insist upon it being that way.

She also has her Saturn in the 3rd house. But with Saturn in Taurus, she tends to give authority a chance- but they must know what they are doing.

Pluto is in the 7th; often suggesting that a close friend turns into an open enemy: That perhaps there are power struggles in close partnership/marriage because her shadow side wants complete control of the other person(Pluto)

Mars sits on the 10th house and you know what that means? Yes. She has a reputation for being quite aggressive and insisting on her own way.

Since her Mars is in Sagittarius, she probably has quite the mouth on her and people often perceive her to be one of the two; assertive or a complete pain in the neck.

Sag Mars especially,tends towards being preachy and judgmental of other people. And they often voice it out quickly.

You two are actually more alike that you think.

The problem here is that neither one of you wants to give the other any leeway. And a clash is inevitable because of your strong natures.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 27, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I also wanted to add that your Mother has Moon in 8th.

This ironically suggests that she probably had issues with her own Mom as well.

That perhaps there was some difficulty in getting to know whom the Mother was in essence; because she was shrouded in secrecy or simply difficult to penetrate(Moon in 8th).

It could also suggest that her nurturing nature(Moon)is hidden(8th) and you have to dig deep to find it.

It could be that she often feels suspicious of people and distrustful.And often controls her emotional responses.

But no doubt, she feels very deeply. Though it may be difficult for her to express the gentler side- often opting to keeps things within .

Its very interesting that in your own chart this is represented by Moon/Saturn Aquarius conjunct.

It is often said that our children are by far our most challenging(and not to mention dynamic) transit.

Through looking at them, they force us to re-examine ourselves.

This is what you do to your mother and she just can't stand it

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astra7
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posted May 27, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Moon (mother) conj. Saturn so that's where the difficulty shown in your natal chart.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 27, 2015 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DeeMonroe,

Your birth chart with Moon closely conjunct Saturn immediately points to 'mother challenges.' Sun-Venus quincunx these two complicates it. Moon conjunct Saturn can indicate difficulty being received/fully accepted as-is by the mother/parent. They can seem to have an agenda or a set of fixed expectations for you.

However, her Mercury and your Moon are both exactly parallel at 19 south, so there is a built-in basis for understanding and communication between you. Your Moon, however is also closely parallel her Neptune [19S08]. Again, that complicates things. In addition, your Jupiter is contra-parallel her Moon, so there is further basis for connection.

But the Saturn and Neptune factors are still there and take longer to work out.

Otherwise, this doesn't look like a very unusual type of synastry between parent and child. As adults it becomes a lot about how to negotiate an equal relationship or just avoid unnecessary issues. However, with the Scorpio/Leo factors in your chart, you'll want to be sure it isn't ongoing resentment that is actually throwing up barriers and keeping old conflicts alive.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 27, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon conj Nemesis which shows this, too!

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 28, 2015 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My synastry with my mother is mostly oppositions, including sun opposition Pluto.

It's pretty accurate.

The only really positive thing is sun trine Neptune which explains why I put up with her crap time and time again.

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