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RainbowFunkster
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posted June 09, 2015 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so here is the deal... My Sun and Juno in Pisces, in the 12th house, conjunct her South Node, and unaspected Moon (in her 4th house). Is that a marriage from a past life, are we about to continue something? I met the girl a few days ago, it feels like there is something between us. Anyways, I also have Venus in aquarius (12th house also) which makes an opposition to her venus in leo 29th degree, sounds like karma. My Mars and Saturn conjunction in aquarius (11th house), make trine and a sextile to her Mars and Saturn in Libra and Aries. What do you guys think? Is this South Node conjunction destined to be bad, or is it going to be heavenly fine?

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posted June 09, 2015 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends entirely on the orb, first of all.

What orb are we looking at here?

After that, the means of determining karma or 'past life' connexions is hardly as simply as SNODE links.

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posted June 09, 2015 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orb is no more than 3 degrees...
Here are the charts, to make things easier. Thanks ahead. http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cihrfileOX0rkM-u1411041853/astro_2gw_01_m_s.80845.21030.gif?21544 http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cihrfileOX0rkM-u1411041853/astro_2gw_03_x_x.80824.19257.gif?19860

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posted June 09, 2015 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to say the strongest connexion is, indeed, her MOON to your SUN/JUNO. Second to that is definitely the near exact (0º10) conjunction of the SUN/SNODE.

I agree this could point to a marriage in another lifeline, if other factors support that theory. I'm going to say that the likelihood you're meant to 'pick up from where you left off', however, is slim.

I don't see any NNODE links at present, and the SUN conjunct CHIRON is dicey. No skipped steps, so there's nothing immediately outstanding.

You're both SUN-JUNO types, so that could be either a point of familiarity, or become too much; you could find the other clingy and dependent -- which are traits you both already possess. (Definitely tricky for an Aries rising.)

Thing with SNODE being the primary connexion, (even with SUN and MOOn, which IS a great thing) its purpose tends to be for clearing karma and letting go, rather than reuniting. It's because you become inundated with past things -- old hurts, unresolved issues, and previous pain. Unless there's something you're moving towards, it becomes a lot of treading and re-treading the past.

Curious that you'd meet so young. It typically takes more life experience and maturity to be able to resolve karma.

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posted June 09, 2015 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see it as providing spiritual experience for her. Jupiter transiting my fifth made us meet I think, since its activating my sun. Also I think we will have some kind of a meeting again, and fall in love perhaps, when venus comes, esp. retro movement. Well, since her moon is unaspected, and I have Ur,Ne and Pl good aspects to it, I think it will be amazing for her. Sort of an awakening don't you think?

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posted June 09, 2015 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for me and relationships, somewhere I've read that Pluto in Scorpio and 8th house is all about karmic relationships, which deepen spiritual progress in the means of transcending the human experience. So I don't even know if I should consider having expectations of viable relationship, even ones with a happy ending.

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posted June 09, 2015 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really, really wouldn't get my hopes up without any NNODE involvement on either side. Even if it's imbalanced, and one is the teacher while the other receives lessons, it's still something.

Relationships that are almost exclusively SNODE-oriented tend to provide lessons, clear karma, and resolve.

Besides, why not just let it unfold?

I've had nothing but karmic relationships myself. Many, many of them of varying nature, degree, and duration.

Bear in mind, too, that tCHIRON is going over your SUN-JUNO. This could very, very easily be a Chironic relationship, too.

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posted June 10, 2015 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... So that means you don't count any other aspect than conjunction? Considering the lunar nodes. Chironic relationship, it might be, since my Chiron is on her Sun. But I put much hope on those trine and sextile aspects to her nodes, are those even viable? Anyway, thanks for your help.

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posted June 10, 2015 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my present relationship is blowing my mind. His sun on my South node, and contacts to our North nodes in the form of trines and sextiles (and that gorgeous opposition!

I have been questioning the dogma of the nodes' importance being so hard and fast. I have friends who heavily aspect my North node who I love dearly, learn from and care about--and only see every few months.

I personally need to ground into my South node more--I have become excessively piscean in my opinion.

The interpretations on SolarFire Gold v8 for nodal connections in synastry feel that the trines to Venus and the moon are the real aspects for true love. The squares are glue, maybe--karma--longevity--maybe--

but baby, those trines ain't there for nothin', Rainbow!

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posted June 10, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the fact that it is her 4th house is HUGE personally. The 4th is overlooked in terms of its vital importance in synastry, as Stephen Arroyo has written, and I agree...

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posted June 10, 2015 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proper information about nodes is still very cloudy to me, but it would be such a shame if that Sun and Moon conjunction fails, because of the nodes, or even chiron. Let's see what happens.

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posted June 10, 2015 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are Chironic relationships bound to face healing with doom and final separation? :P

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posted June 10, 2015 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you add the chart through astrodienst?

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posted June 10, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cihrfileOX0rkM-u1411041853/astro_2gw_01_m_s.58920.13512.gif?13724 http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cihrfileOX0rkM-u1411041853/astro_2gw_03_x_x.58939.15040.gif?15211
There you go. I have Vesta on her North Node, Sappho also.

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posted June 10, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://oi59.tinypic.com/16jea8z.jpg http://s13.postimg.org/lqgwc6cwn/image.png

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posted June 11, 2015 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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my present relationship is blowing my mind. His sun on my South node, and contacts to our North nodes in the form of trines and sextiles (and that gorgeous opposition!
I have been questioning the dogma of the nodes' importance being so hard and fast. I have friends who heavily aspect my North node who I love dearly, learn from and care about--and only see every few months.

I personally need to ground into my South node more--I have become excessively piscean in my opinion.


I'm also done with NN connections/conjunctions in synastry.
I now feel I can see "through" them... I even have to IMPROVE their way of thinking too objectively (aqua) .. where in the past their way of 'thinking' seemed to be a language from another planet to which a moth could only long to be with. To not even speak about the NN house position ..

Back to my SN Leo 12th SELF! (that's even my Sun's position). ;D

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posted June 12, 2015 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowFunkster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, what you are trying to say, is that balance is needed between the nodes. Interesting. But how does that work in synastry, for example in our charts?

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posted July 27, 2015 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I really, really wouldn't get my hopes up without any NNODE involvement on either side. Even if it's imbalanced, and one is the teacher while the other receives lessons, it's still something.

Relationships that are almost exclusively SNODE-oriented tend to provide lessons, clear karma, and resolve.

Besides, why not just let it unfold?

I've had nothing but karmic relationships myself. Many, many of them of varying nature, degree, and duration.


As I recall you talked about some SN relation of yours lasting around 14 years. To just say it's about resolving karma and discouraging people from dealing with it by saying it won't amount to anything seems unhelpful, and all the more if in some cases you still end up knowing whoever for, say, 15 years, before you part ways. That's a lifetime to some, and ages to others, after which people will likely have changed or resolved whatever necessary, anyway, and can get the NN-relationships in as well. The way you talk about SN-relationships you make it sound as if they were all going to end or disappear in a couple of weeks and that's that, no point in even bothering (although also saying it might be necessary to clear something out of the way with some people if they do come into your life).

Out of curiosity otherwise, would you consider trines to the NN enough of a contact on the NN-side to matter to you? Say up to 2 degree orbs for trines. One side Sun-NN and the other side an NN-Moon trine, for example?

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