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Aquacheeka
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posted June 17, 2015 12:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread.

Moon signs in air, fire, Virgo or Capricorn, Venus and/or Mars in Aries, Gemini, Sagittarius, or any of the mutable or cardinal earth or water signs, Gemini or Sagittarius sun (bad news bears for my moon sign).

Mars hard aspect to Pluto in synastry or Mars hard aspect to Saturn in synastry.

Everything else I am OK with.

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posted June 17, 2015 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Great thread.

Moon signs in air, fire, Virgo or Capricorn, Venus and/or Mars in Aries, Gemini, Sagittarius, or any of the mutable or cardinal earth or water signs, Gemini or Sagittarius sun (bad news bears for my moon sign).

Mars hard aspect to Pluto in synastry or Mars hard aspect to Saturn in synastry.

Everything else I am OK with.



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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
One for me is Venus square Pluto.

Cool I always thought this hard aspects with pluto would create hate or even attraction.


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posted June 17, 2015 01:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Cool I always thought this hard aspects with pluto would create hate or even attraction.


I wouldn't mind Venus conjunct Pluto (not so sure about the square) but I don't like Mars in hard aspect to malefics because of the potential for abuse, both verbal and physical. I don't even want to date someone who has Mars in hard aspect to Pluto natally. I dated two of these men back-to-back (one had the conjunction; the other had the square) and both were abusive. The conjunction was worse; the square at least knew it was a problem he had to work on - the conjunction just thought it was totally normal behaviour and everyone else was overreacting. Conjunctions in the natal chart can take away our self-awareness.

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posted June 17, 2015 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquacheeka:Aww good to know.
I had hard aspects with a guy once (mars/pluto)..he seems incapable to do something like this.BUT who knows.We dont know people until we get really close to them and under the same roof.

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posted June 17, 2015 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think if you've got people with hard mars/pluto aspects (conjunct/square) on your side, fighting for the same cause or doing something that requires joining forces, they are a great ally.

As enemies, you better watch out. As lovers, it's really up in the air.

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posted June 18, 2015 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like Aquarius Suns, and I can't stand Cancers or people who are heavily influenced by water.

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posted June 18, 2015 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart is very deficient in Water and Earth so I am finding that I seek those types out romantically and I end up befriending men with Air and Fire Sun signs, or just not feeling a deep attraction to them. It could be the deficiency or my 8th house Pluto, Moon conjunct Pluto thing that craves depth.

The only exception would be Leo men - they fall into my 7th house.

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posted June 18, 2015 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I don't like Aquarius Suns, and I can't stand Cancers or people who are heavily influenced by water.

I have problems with aries suns sometimes, they fight too much!hehe and absolutely love virgo people.They have such a big heart

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posted June 18, 2015 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by downtomars:
My chart is very deficient in Water and Earth so I am finding that I seek those types out romantically and I end up befriending men with Air and Fire Sun signs, or just not feeling a deep attraction to them. It could be the deficiency or my 8th house Pluto, Moon conjunct Pluto thing that craves depth.

The only exception would be Leo men - they fall into my 7th house.


Good point.
Cancer is the opposite for cap but i cant imagine myself dating one of them.Im a holpeless romantic but somehow i dont get along well with them.
I'm more into fire and air.(perhaps because of my moon and ascendant in gemini?)But it backfires me cuz I'm probably too boring for them lol
(My ex was the only exception i guess)

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posted June 18, 2015 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CosmiqPhuz:Great insight

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posted June 18, 2015 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:

Birth times are correct, i asked his mom to show me his birth certificate.


I think I've figured out where the blockage is... His Sun sign Virgo doesn't really show in your attraction pattern, so at his core he is just not your type, although he probably does have some qualities you like and admire because of the parts of his chart that do match your pattern. His Mars, Moon, Venus (Jupiter in Leo co-rules your Pisces Dsc) and Jupiter energy. The Sun is our central identity and so when that doesn't show in the partner's attraction pattern it can be an issue.

Interestingly, you are more likely to be his type, then he is to be yours... Your Sun, and Moon both show in his pattern, so does your Venus, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and outer planet Cap placements, but your Virgo Asc does not even though he does have a Mercury ruled Dsc (Gemini). Virgo and Gemini are quite distinct, they're so different from each other, and don't seem to substitute well for each other in the attraction pattern. It can be a toss-up when Mercury the planet is in the 7th. Not for signs though. If a person has a Gemini Dsc they're attracted to outgoing chatty energy rather then Virgo's quiet analytical vibe, or vice versa with a Virgo Dsc. His Sun in Virgo in your 1st house seems to be more about friendly common ground then anything else.

Lack of complete mutuality in attraction patterns when it comes to important factors, like the Sun or Moon particularly, can be a deal breaker when it comes to 'friendzoing'.

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posted June 18, 2015 03:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting observation about Virgo/Gemini.
While agreeing in theory, I notice that I do have a Gemini-DESC, and he has Mars in Virgo. I am still strongly attracted to him.
But then again of course my DESC-ruler is in Sagittarius conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC. And his Mars conjuncts Jupiter and they are both widely trine my Venus, so it might be more because of that than the Gemini/Virgo-thing.

He has Virgo-DESC, and I donīt have anything in Virgo, though Mercury is conjunct my Sun, but in Sagittarius. However his DESC-ruler is in Sagittarius as well. so I guess it is a no brainer as to WHAT the common ground here is. lol

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posted June 18, 2015 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Not true for everyone. I'm a Capricorn Sun with lots of planets in Sag, and I LOVE fire trines to my personal planets. I also think some hard aspects are necessary to keep things dynamic. But that doesn't change the fact that I love certain trines and sextiles, especially to my Mercury/Asc conjunction in Sag, and my Venus in Sag.

My thoughts are that if someone doesn't match your 5th, 7th, or 8th house symbolism (all three of them to some extent) very well, then it increases the possibility that you'll 'friendzone' them. Same thing if someone doesn't aspect your 5th, 7th, or 8th houses rulers.

A lack of aspects between the gender planets can lead to the 'friendzoning' as well... Like Sun/Moon, Mars/Moon, Sun/Venus, and Venus/Mars. However, weirdly I've noticed that strong connections to the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are actually what switches on physical attraction aspects in a romantic way. It's possible to have a Venus/Mars aspect with someone you'd never consider romantically, even if you think they're good looking. But the presence of strong 5th, 7th, or 8th house connections to your chart from a partner seems to be what 'flips the switch' from a platonic friendship to a romanatic attraction. It opens up the possibility that you'll be able to picture them in a romantic light.

So yeah, it's possible to be friendzoned by somebody you have a gender planet aspect with, if the relationship houses are not activated for that person. Either by you putting planets in those houses, aspecting the rulers of those houses, or by strongly matching the symbolism of those houses (for example, they have Jupiter in the 8th house and you have a Sagittarius Moon). The best attractions involve a partner influencing all 3 of those houses in one way or another.

You could also get friendzoned for the opposite reason. You have good 5th, 7th, and 8th house stuff going on with them but there could be a lack gender planet attraction aspects. In these cases there's not much for the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses to 'switch on' to a romantic context in the first place. You'll admire them and like them a lot, and not much else.

My basic formula for is: Gender planet aspects + 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation = Powerful attraction.

Empty Spaces,

Does your ex connect well with all of your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses? Do you want to post the synastry. A picture is a thousand words.


I completely agree. I will add to it, if your 5th house, 7th house and 8th house ruler makes aspects with the other person's asc, 5th, IC, descendant and 8th house ruler then there is sparkling chemistry. If it makes to personal planets it's fireworks. But 3rd, 9th, 12th, 6th house synastry can be "friendly or colleage" kind. Houses are important.

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posted June 18, 2015 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interesting observation about Virgo/Gemini.
While agreeing in theory, I notice that I do have a Gemini-DESC, and he has Mars in Virgo. I am still strongly attracted to him.
But then again of course my DESC-ruler is in Sagittarius conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC. And his Mars conjuncts Jupiter and they are both widely trine my Venus, so it might be more because of that than the Gemini/Virgo-thing.

He has Virgo-DESC, and I donīt have anything in Virgo, though Mercury is conjunct my Sun, but in Sagittarius. However his DESC-ruler is in Sagittarius as well. so I guess it is a no brainer as to WHAT the common ground here is. lol


Hi Ceri,

I remember this. I always thought the attraction to Virgo energy for you came from the house ruled by your Mars sign. Virgo falls into your 9th house, symbolically ruled by your Mars in Sagittarius. Leo is the sign actually on the 9th house cusp, ruled by the Sun conjunct Mercury also (another hint about Virgo). His Sun conjunct your Sun is reenforcing this. He has the Sag and the Virgo from your 9th house. He doesn't have the Leo but he has a Leo type of profession/reputation, and has Sun on the Mc.

I think Mercury is more flexible then the signs Virgo or Gemini when it comes to attraction patterns. I've noticed Gemnini Dsc is not really attracted to Virgo, but they are attracted to Gemini by sign, or strong Mercury people, but not really Virgo (unless Virgo is elsewhere in the attraction pattern). A Virgo Dsc is attracted to Virgo or strong Mercury people, but not really Gemini (unless Gemini is elsewhere in the attraction pattern). Mercury is flexible the other way too. A person with Mercury in the 7th could go for Gemini or Virgo, just like a person with Venus in the 7th could go for Libra or Taurus. However, if the 7th house ruler were in Libra I wouldn't say the person could also go for a Taurus based on that... The signs tend to be more specific then planets when they rule more then one sign. The 7th house ruler in Libra likes an outgoing charming social butterfly type, 7th house ruler in Taurus likes a quiet, stable, sensual type. One is more introverted, the other more extroverted. Signs on the cusp, or of the cusp ruler, can show particulars to our taste more clearly when Mercury and Venus are involved.

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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
But 3rd, 9th, 12th, 6th house synastry can be "friendly or colleage" kind. Houses are important.

Yes, but not always.
If a lot of relationship house rulers fall natally in these houses it will be where romance tends to happen.


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posted June 18, 2015 07:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lotis,

I agree.
There is a sign/planet difference when it comes to the double-ruled signs.

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posted June 18, 2015 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
[b] But 3rd, 9th, 12th, 6th house synastry can be "friendly or colleage" kind. Houses are important.


Yes, but not always.
If a lot of relationship house rulers fall natally in these houses it will be where romance tends to happen.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, that is true.

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posted June 19, 2015 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
lotis,

I agree.
There is a sign/planet difference when it comes to the double-ruled signs.


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posted October 29, 2022 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for litarot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
I completely agree. I will add to it, if your 5th house, 7th house and 8th house ruler makes aspects with the other person's asc, 5th, IC, descendant and 8th house ruler then there is sparkling chemistry. If it makes to personal planets it's fireworks. But 3rd, 9th, 12th, 6th house synastry can be "friendly or colleage" kind. Houses are important.


I do not agree! I've had contacts from the 6th houses where there was a lot of attraction, much more than the contacts I had from the 8th and 5th houses.

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