posted June 17, 2015 05:41 PM            

His south node conjuncts my moon
and some saturn aspects ( venus trine saturn / venus opposite saturn / sun trine saturn )

6 years - on / off affair. friendship with sex.. never committed but very intense and obssesive.

2 days ago I wrote him a letter. Confessed my true feelings, thoughts - that I wanted more.. but I ended it with a goodbye.

Oh god so much pain.. But deep down I don't believe that it's completely over.. Then I stat fighting with myself. It's never gonna work out. He will always hurt you etc..

How do you understand that it's really the end of your karmic relationship ? Do all the karmic relationships have to end ?

posted June 17, 2015 06:14 PM            

The ways in which they continue is if there is such benefit to both that new horizons are explored, and further 'adventures' come into being. These typically occur with NNODE connexions to one or both. In the case of a mostly SNODE-oriented karmic relationship, there are things to resolve, and the relationship is typically self-limiting.

Perhaps you had to reach a level of personal power and strength in order to give up what was bad for you? This may be overcoming a multi-lifeline sexual addiction, rather than anything. Unless true meaning was found in 6 years of a casual sexual relationship, I'd say this was about you being strong enough to leave an ultimately unfulfilling sexual dynamic so that you CAN find a fulfilling relationship with the RIGHT features.

posted June 17, 2015 07:07 PM            

and even though I love him so much I know choosing to stay in this affair will be sacrificing my happiness to an addiction.

so I am trying to be strong and let go of him. thank you so much for the encouragement.

- we have north node conjunctions.

His north node conjuncts my mars & neptune
My north node conjuncts his neptune

His north node opposes my moon
My north node squares his moon

I think these aspects creating more obstacles rather than offseting southnode conjunct moon..

posted June 17, 2015 10:32 PM            

I'm pretty sure it was a karmic relationship. The circumstances for us meeting was pretty remarkable. I learned to put myself first more often, instead of always worrying about everyone else. She taught me how to be more aggressive and just dive in. You know, all the aries stuff.

I loved her very much, but after awhile I just got tired of her selfishness (aries venus).

posted June 18, 2015 01:44 AM            

What happens when:
(Synastry)
South node>>>quincunx Venus
Opposite moon/ quincunx moon
sesquiquadrate Saturn
quincunx chiron
Trine MC -trine pluto.

And NORTH NODE:
Conjunct moon/semi-sextile moon
Semi-sextile venus and chiron
Sextile MC

Semi-sextiles are relevant?!

posted June 18, 2015 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
thanks to him now I know what I want and don't want in a love affair.

and even though I love him so much I know choosing to stay in this affair will be sacrificing my happiness to an addiction.

so I am trying to be strong and let go of him. thank you so much for the encouragement.

- we have north node conjunctions.

His north node conjuncts my mars & neptune
My north node conjuncts his neptune

His north node opposes my moon
My north node squares his moon

I think these aspects creating more obstacles rather than offseting southnode conjunct moon..

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Have you learned the lessons his north node is trying to teach you? Has he taken impetus from your mars and has moved forward in that direction? If the answers are not yet complete then this can't be over. I don't see why this relationship has to end in the first place. Saturn and NN are both glues to a great extent. What are the transits? Do you have a composite?

posted June 18, 2015 02:08 PM            

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Semi-sextiles, as a matter of fact all the minor aspects do not count in synastry.

To be honest, I think even sextiles don't do it.

posted June 18, 2015 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
Have you learned the lessons his north node is trying to teach you? Has he taken impetus from your mars and has moved forward in that direction? If the answers are not yet complete then this can't be over. I don't see why this relationship has to end in the first place. Saturn and NN are both glues to a great extent. What are the transits? Do you have a composite?

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even though we have strong saturn aspects, we were not able to commit to each other. The longevity comes from us being highschool classmates.

NN conjunct Mars - He is competing with me.
He wants to be 1 step ahead of me.. so after we started, he became cooler, a lot more sophisticated and a lot more successfull and more adventorous... Due to his ego trip - with me. What else Mars is expected to do for the NN person ?

It's just he does not accept his feelings for me.. but never lets me ago. Last week he called me and I said no ( that was before the letter ) He kept text messaging for nearly 2 days and I gave in and went to his house. We had sex. And he was detached afterwards. Playing the friend game... so sick of it. then I wrote him a letter and said goodbye and asked him not to call me. And the reply was 'oh girl:/"

He has so much power over me I hate it. But this time I am gonna be strong and not give in if he tries to contact..

posted June 18, 2015 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:
even though we have strong saturn aspects, we were not able to commit to each other. The longevity comes from us being highschool classmates.

NN conjunct Mars - He is competing with me.
He wants to be 1 step ahead of me.. so after we started, he became cooler, a lot more sophisticated and a lot more successfull and more adventorous... Due to his ego trip - with me. What else Mars is expected to do for the NN person ?

It's just he does not accept his feelings for me.. but never lets me ago. Last week he called me and I said no ( that was before the letter ) He kept text messaging for nearly 2 days and I gave in and went to his house. We had sex. And he was detached afterwards. Playing the friend game... so sick of it. then I wrote him a letter and said goodbye and asked him not to call me. And the reply was 'oh girl:/"

He has so much power over me I hate it. But this time I am gonna be strong and not give in if he tries to contact..

It sometimes feels like I am possesed by a devil.

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posted June 18, 2015 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
How are 'karmic' relationships recognised - through a connection with the Nodal Axis?

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posted June 18, 2015 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
I'm confused... do I have this concept of Karma wrong?
What we were taught is, something as simple as thinking ill of someone even for a second builds up karma. Until we relinquish all our wants, we tend to reincarnate. And we reincarnate with/around own set of people/soul family from our previous births. Also any interaction among people would almost build up more karma(good/bad). So how can we clear it off completely? Isnt it a cycle? Unless we follow a strict path of Dharma?
Or am I 'Mahabharatam'ising this concept of Karma?

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Karma has a few different definitions depending upon the school of thought. The above is considerably more Buddhist and, indeed, has great insight into the matter.

posted June 18, 2015 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
If they are king, your the throne they are sitting on.!

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posted June 18, 2015 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
How are 'karmic' relationships recognised - through a connection with the Nodal Axis?

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south node conjunctions are karmic. because south node represents oýr past - past lives.

posted June 18, 2015 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
In my opinion karmic relationships do not have to end, but they do have to grow. If both people are mature enough to let the relationship morph into something else, something different, then it doesn't have to end. Currently I have one that I've been able to do that with, and one that I had to completely let go of.

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posted June 18, 2015 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
If my relationship is karmic I choose to never learn my lesson so we can keep meeting in next lives.

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posted June 19, 2015 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
even though we have strong saturn aspects, we were not able to commit to each other. The longevity comes from us being highschool classmates.

NN conjunct Mars - He is competing with me.
He wants to be 1 step ahead of me.. so after we started, he became cooler, a lot more sophisticated and a lot more successfull and more adventorous... Due to his ego trip - with me. What else Mars is expected to do for the NN person ?

It's just he does not accept his feelings for me.. but never lets me ago. Last week he called me and I said no ( that was before the letter ) He kept text messaging for nearly 2 days and I gave in and went to his house. We had sex. And he was detached afterwards. Playing the friend game... so sick of it. then I wrote him a letter and said goodbye and asked him not to call me. And the reply was 'oh girl:/"

He has so much power over me I hate it. But this time I am gonna be strong and not give in if he tries to contact..

It sometimes feels like I am possesed by a devil.

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I believe your SN conjuncts his Moon. His North Node squares your moon. But particularly I would say that SN connections give you comfort for a long time till the planet person starts freaking you out. This is most likely the case with conjunctions as per my observation. Yes, SN is very karmic because it gives you a feeling of "immediate comfort" when you meet the planet person. Immediate comfort springs from the soul so Karmic relationships come in your life either to complete what was left or to renew what was incomplete.

posted June 19, 2015 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
thanks to him now I know what I want and don't want in a love affair.

and even though I love him so much I know choosing to stay in this affair will be sacrificing my happiness to an addiction.

so I am trying to be strong and let go of him. thank you so much for the encouragement.

- we have north node conjunctions.

His north node conjuncts my mars & neptune
My north node conjuncts his neptune

His north node opposes my moon
My north node squares his moon

I think these aspects creating more obstacles rather than offseting southnode conjunct moon..

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Yes, you are right about NN and SN is very important for Karmic links. Minor-aspects don't really count but Sextiles do.

posted June 19, 2015 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
MUCH more than that, Saturn. I'm thinking of opening a systematic thread on the identification of multidimensional patterns in synastry (and composite), as it's the best means to identify what we commonly think of as 'karma'.

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Great, I love your threads Aubyanne! Looking forward to it

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Originally posted by sis:
south node conjunctions are karmic. because south node represents oýr past - past lives.

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