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Meer55
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posted June 27, 2015 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have calculated several synastry rapports on several sites, all kind of aspects show up, but I am looking for an aspect between the Sun/Moon midpoint and other planets.
How to know if there is an aspect between one's Sun/Moon midpoint and another one's planet?

I tried it with several birtdata (ex partners) but I dont see it show up in the list.
Can anyone recommend a website that delivers free synastry rapport including Sun/Moon midpoint to other planets?


Widely appreciated !!!

Oh and another small question: I have read that the composite systry rapport can only be apllieable if you are in a relationship.
In all honesty, we were the best of friends for years, and there was always strong mutual attraction.
It ended with us kissing eachother verry passionatley among our friends in 2011 (Everyone was saying: 'Finally' and verry joyfull! ), and me moving to another city.

My question is: Do one of the people have to acknowledge that 'this is a relationship' or can you look at the overall feeling of our 'sort of friendly' relationship?
How did any on you experience this with a friend that you are attracted to and he/she to you>?
I have known him since the age of 13.
He used to have a child-crush on me and then years later I met him and seriously, I know it sounds as a cliche, but I have never felt something electric like that, we bumped into eachother.
It was so joyfull and passionate at the same time, we became the best of friends while always openly talking about how we find eachother to be the hottest of the hottest.
Yet we never, you know.
But it didnt bother him, or me.
I think we were young and really believed that 'we had all the time in the world for that.'
We could laugh about it, and promised eachother to marry in about 10 years should we stay single.

Anyone want to share their experience?
For the record : this is no unrequited love, it was mutual always.

I dont know how to add a picture/file so I am going to upload the picture of our Synastry on the internet.
Here is the link:

http://share.pho.to/9Wiqh

Isnt it kind of strange, that through our years of seperation and me being in different relationships with others in the meatime, that I would frequently dream about him?
Always in a positive manner, no negative dark dreams.
The strange thing about this is that I wasnt having a crush on him or thinking about him at all.
I moved on with my life, yet I would dream about him and I still do.
Without me seeing or speaking with him.
This is not some crush I have, I mean I do love him but what could it mean?
It feels unfinished, or maybe Im just being sentimental.

Please I am verry much interested in experiences of other people here who have/had a friend that they are/were mutually attracted to, but it never was a 'relationship' in the conventional sense of the word.

I dont know if its of any importance but I always had trouble with the fact that he is white/caucasian and I am well, from arabic origin (light skinned arabic though with dark hair).
Sorry, my english is verry bad.
He never dated a woman from his own cultural background or skin colour, whereas I never dated a man that was colored or of the same ethnical background as me.
We both prefered dating people from other cultural backgrounds.
So that we had in common, yet my parents would have never accepted him.
Mainly because I was brought up religiously and he well, He always believed in the 'greater Good.'
Always made me verry sad, tried hard not to think of the future when we would be sitting together laughing.
Just enjoying the moment.
His mother told me that (and I promised her I would never tell him I know) he told her I was his ideal mate.
I always remembered that with a slight feeling of pain with a smile on my face.

For me he is my Ideal mate, always has been and I still compare him to other men that I meet (I am not fully aware of this always).
We never had a fight in all those years, not even irritated by eachother.
We would light eachother up when one of us felt depressed and met the other in person.

It actually makes me verry sad to write about this here. I mean: I am a verry open person (sometimes too open: Moon & Mercury in Aries) I have always kept this to myself for most part.
So it feels strange to share all of this with you.
He is not like other men, to me this feels rather intimate: sharing all these feelings and experiences here.

Would you say we experienced eachother mutually positive or one of us more intense then the other?
We were allready friends for yearsssss, but when we kissed eachother, suddenly all that 'light fluffy' aura that we always used to have around us when we would be in eachothers presence, dissapeared.
I remember none of us laughed and we just looked at eachother and it was like I felt him for the first time as a presence.
We did NOT laugh, as we would always laugh about ANYTHING,but now we just stared at eachother verry intensely.
It was, in all honesty, scary.
I felt fear at that moment.
Not for him, just that feeling of heaviness.
It felt like we were in an elevator and we went 10 stories up in a matter of seconds.
That change was verry sudden and verry intense.
We never looked at eachother the same way again, as we did before that moment.

Anyone?

Saying hi,
Miriam

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 27, 2015 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Miriam and welcome!

What is the reason you two can't be together?
Thank you for sharing it with us, don't feel bad about it, this is a place of sharing

For the midpoints, I think it's best to print the pdf file displaying all midpoints (Ebertin style with mdps on Astro.com), then you can easily see the aspects they make with your planets, asteroids or someone else's.


HOW TO GET YOUR CHART
1. Go to www.astro.com . You can create a free account or enter your birth data as a guest; however, creating an account will allow you to save your information – great for trying the different charts both for yourself and for others in your life. If you don’t know the exact time of your birth, do your best to find out – it *is* important.
2. Go to “Free Horoscopes” and then to “Extended Chart Selection.”
3. “Natal Chart Wheel” is the default, but you will need to go to “House System” (under “Options” use the drop-down to change to “equal”). *edit* many readers use Placidus as well*
4. Click on “Click here to show the Chart,” then click on the chart which will appear.
5. Right-click and save the chart to your desktop.
HOW TO UPLOAD YOUR CHART
1. Create a free account at www.photobucket.com .
2. Select “Upload Now” which will bring up “Select Photos and Videos.”
3. Navigate to your desktop and select.
4. On right, click “Save and continue to my album.”
5. When you hover the mouse pointer over the chart, you will see that a box appears with a few options. If you need to edit out your name or anything else you don’t feel comfortable sharing on the boards, “edit” is in the top band of options. Select “edit” which opens your chart and provides editing options. Go to the tab “Decorate,” and you will see a number of icons, one of which is an eraser. Erase what you need to, and click “Replace original.”
6. Saving should take you to a new screen where you can see your chart and to the right, a bank of options to “Share this photo.” Click on the IMG code, which will flash and let you know that you’ve copied the link.
7. Go to your thread, open a new post and paste your link.
8. Don’t move or delete your chart from Photobucket, because the link only goes to where the chart was saved!

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Meer55
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posted June 27, 2015 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello LeeLoo2014 !

Thank you for your reply and going out of your way to help me.
I will go this site and try to do that you explained.
I find it rather difficult still, but I'll try.
Is it okay if I let you know how it worked out?

We can not be together because my family would never accept him.
He is not arabic and he isnt religious either.
I allready have a sister that went her own way, married a 'white' man who isnt religious and the hell that it brought up, you have no idea.
I have serious trouble talking about this, because it was traumatic.
If I wanted to be with my Ideal Mate (lets call him that) I would have to break all contacts with my family.
When we were younger and I still wasnt thinking of marriage, it wasnt something I really worried about.
Just every now and then it would pop up in my mind and I would feel down.
But I would wave it away, finding him to be the perfect distraction of it all.
He reall did make me happy, in a verry simple sense.

I moved to another city after that kiss, and he worked in the US.
He was in the army.
My parents would have killed me: literally.

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posted June 27, 2015 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi !

Okay I think it was easy doing it !
I uploaded the picture on another site.
Does it matter?
Here is the link:
http://share.pho.to/9WjUJ

Did you see my picure of our synastry Planets in Houses in my first post?

I'll give you the link again. http://share.pho.to/9Wiqh

Cause I think my Sun/Moon midpoint is in Aries.
According to a calculator, but I found that calculator to be rather vague.

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posted June 27, 2015 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see it, yes
Your Sun/Moon mdp is at 25 Aries.
I will be back to answer your thread and your other posts later, I have to interrupt now
But in the meantime, it is best to use and post Placidus, not equal houses. Personally, I work with Placidus when I interpret charts.
Try to browse and explore astro.com and the charts they have there: you can upload the synastry, the composite etc.

If it's too difficult for you to find the Ebertin style chart for the midpoints, I can do it later for you

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Lotis White
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posted June 27, 2015 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be especially interesting to see his chart in comparison to yours also. Do you know his birth time? Placidus houses would be best.

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Meer55
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posted June 27, 2015 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotis White:
It would be especially interesting to see his chart in comparison to yours also. Do you know his birth time? Placidus houses would be best.

Hello Lotus WHote, thank you for reading my story and showing your interest.
Really appreciated

I could give you our birthdate:

Me, born May 5 1986 at 13:32 local time in the city of Rhenen in The Netherlands.

He was born at April 7 1988 at 01:00 local time in Rhenen in The Netherlands.

Yes, we were born at the EXACT same place, in the exact same building.

Thank you in advance.
Anything that you notice that will remind you of my story,you may point out to me.

Much Love,
Miriam

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Meer55
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posted June 27, 2015 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meer55:
Hello Lotus WHote, thank you for reading my story and showing your interest.
Really appreciated

I could give you our birthdate:

Me, born May 5 1986 at 13:32 local time in the city of Rhenen in The Netherlands.

He was born at April 7 1988 at 01:00 local time in Rhenen in The Netherlands.

Yes, we were born at the EXACT same place, in the exact same building.

Thank you in advance.
Anything that you notice that will remind you of my story,you may point out to me.

Much Love,
Miriam


EDIT:

Sorry, I suddenly realize that you just asked me if I have his bithdate.
i thought you wanted to calculate something (sorry again).

You want me to do a comparison chart and then upload it?

P.s. Is it okay to put out birthdates here or do people hre generally dont put that here?

What kind of chart?
Synastry or Davison?
Midpoint or ..?
So many options, just wandering wich one you prefer to look at?
Not verro good at this.

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posted June 27, 2015 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I can see it, yes
Your Sun/Moon mdp is at 25 Aries.
I will be back to answer your thread and your other posts later, I have to interrupt now
But in the meantime, it is best to use and post Placidus, not equal houses. Personally, I work with Placidus when I interpret charts.
Try to browse and explore astro.com and the charts they have there: you can upload the synastry, the composite etc.

If it's too difficult for you to find the Ebertin style chart for the midpoints, I can do it later for you


I can see it, yes
Your Sun/Moon mdp is at 25 Aries.
I will be back to answer your thread and your other posts later, I have to interrupt now
But in the meantime, it is best to use and post Placidus, not equal houses. Personally, I work with Placidus when I interpret charts.
Try to browse and explore astro.com and the charts they have there: you can upload the synastry, the composite etc.

If it's too difficult for you to find the Ebertin style chart for the midpoints, I can do it later for you

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Hey there !

Thank you for conforming my Sun/Moon midpoint to me !
In all hoesty: yes, I rather find it difficult to calculate and interpret.
So many options at Astro.com !!
As you can see, I hace put our birth dates in the post below.
Maybe you can do something with that info?
Offcourse, only if I aroused your curiosity !

Saying hi,
Miriam

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NikiVenus6
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posted June 28, 2015 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meer55:
I have calculated several synastry rapports on several sites, all kind of aspects show up, but I am looking for an aspect between the Sun/Moon midpoint and other planets.
How to know if there is an aspect between one's Sun/Moon midpoint and another one's planet?

I tried it with several birtdata (ex partners) but I dont see it show up in the list.
Can anyone recommend a website that delivers free synastry rapport including Sun/Moon midpoint to other planets?


Widely appreciated !!!

Oh and another small question: I have read that the composite systry rapport can only be apllieable if you are in a relationship.
In all honesty, we were the best of friends for years, and there was always strong mutual attraction.
It ended with us kissing eachother verry passionatley among our friends in 2011 (Everyone was saying: 'Finally' and verry joyfull! ), and me moving to another city.

My question is: Do one of the people have to acknowledge that 'this is a relationship' or can you look at the overall feeling of our 'sort of friendly' relationship?
How did any on you experience this with a friend that you are attracted to and he/she to you>?
I have known him since the age of 13.
He used to have a child-crush on me and then years later I met him and seriously, I know it sounds as a cliche, but I have never felt something electric like that, we bumped into eachother.
It was so joyfull and passionate at the same time, we became the best of friends while always openly talking about how we find eachother to be the hottest of the hottest.
Yet we never, you know.
But it didnt bother him, or me.
I think we were young and really believed that 'we had all the time in the world for that.'
We could laugh about it, and promised eachother to marry in about 10 years should we stay single.

Anyone want to share their experience?
For the record : this is no unrequited love, it was mutual always.

I dont know how to add a picture/file so I am going to upload the picture of our Synastry on the internet.
Here is the link:

http://share.pho.to/9Wiqh

Isnt it kind of strange, that through our years of seperation and me being in different relationships with others in the meatime, that I would frequently dream about him?
Always in a positive manner, no negative dark dreams.
The strange thing about this is that I wasnt having a crush on him or thinking about him at all.
I moved on with my life, yet I would dream about him and I still do.
Without me seeing or speaking with him.
This is not some crush I have, I mean I do love him but what could it mean?
It feels unfinished, or maybe Im just being sentimental.

Please I am verry much interested in experiences of other people here who have/had a friend that they are/were mutually attracted to, but it never was a 'relationship' in the conventional sense of the word.

I dont know if its of any importance but I always had trouble with the fact that he is white/caucasian and I am well, from arabic origin (light skinned arabic though with dark hair).
Sorry, my english is verry bad.
He never dated a woman from his own cultural background or skin colour, whereas I never dated a man that was colored or of the same ethnical background as me.
We both prefered dating people from other cultural backgrounds.
So that we had in common, yet my parents would have never accepted him.
Mainly because I was brought up religiously and he well, He always believed in the 'greater Good.'
Always made me verry sad, tried hard not to think of the future when we would be sitting together laughing.
Just enjoying the moment.
His mother told me that (and I promised her I would never tell him I know) he told her I was his ideal mate.
I always remembered that with a slight feeling of pain with a smile on my face.

For me he is my Ideal mate, always has been and I still compare him to other men that I meet (I am not fully aware of this always).
We never had a fight in all those years, not even irritated by eachother.
We would light eachother up when one of us felt depressed and met the other in person.

It actually makes me verry sad to write about this here. I mean: I am a verry open person (sometimes too open: Moon & Mercury in Aries) I have always kept this to myself for most part.
So it feels strange to share all of this with you.
He is not like other men, to me this feels rather intimate: sharing all these feelings and experiences here.

Would you say we experienced eachother mutually positive or one of us more intense then the other?
We were allready friends for yearsssss, but when we kissed eachother, suddenly all that 'light fluffy' aura that we always used to have around us when we would be in eachothers presence, dissapeared.
I remember none of us laughed and we just looked at eachother and it was like I felt him for the first time as a presence.
We did NOT laugh, as we would always laugh about ANYTHING,but now we just stared at eachother verry intensely.
It was, in all honesty, scary.
I felt fear at that moment.
Not for him, just that feeling of heaviness.
It felt like we were in an elevator and we went 10 stories up in a matter of seconds.
That change was verry sudden and verry intense.
We never looked at eachother the same way again, as we did before that moment.

Anyone?

Saying hi,
Miriam


Hi, as per my knowledge composite aspects exists whether it is an official relationship or not. Transits to composites can show when "official" will take or not take place. Also, composite to natal aspect will tell how each person feels or how the relationship short or long, official unofficial will work of either person.

Go to "teachmeastrology.com" you will get a lot of midpoints and free reading. You can ask for synastry aspects over here.

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posted June 28, 2015 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://teachmeastrology.com/midpoint-calculator/

This is a good site about midpoints. It works on a natal chart. What I did was print out both natal charts and then compared. At least it gives a full list of the aspects your planets have with your midpoints.

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posted June 28, 2015 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here are your charts, Miriam, very impressive charts I'll be back and comment. But you do have to learn to use astro.com if you want to explore this relationship in more depth.

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posted June 28, 2015 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
Hi, as per my knowledge composite aspects exists whether it is an official relationship or not. Transits to composites can show when "official" will take or not take place. Also, composite to natal aspect will tell how each person feels or how the relationship short or long, official unofficial will work of either person.

Go to "teachmeastrology.com" you will get a lot of midpoints and free reading. You can ask for synastry aspects over here.


This is interesting. Can you elaborate a bit on your method? how do you see long vs short in the composite vs natals, and official vs non-official? Thank you

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posted June 28, 2015 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ LeeLoo2014:

Where/How can I learn more about this?
Can you give me some advice?
Maybe a good book?
Not to complicated please haha...

Thank you for uploading these pictures, how did you do that??

<3 (L)

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posted June 28, 2015 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is interesting. Can you elaborate a bit on your method? how do you see long vs short in the composite vs natals, and official vs non-official? Thank you


Hi, I, not getting an email when someone ass a message to this topic like I normally do.
Are you receiving this?

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posted June 28, 2015 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don't understand exactly how to do this. I have the natal midpoints but it's as simple as checking to see if any of them are at the same degree for the other individual?

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posted June 28, 2015 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stillatlarge:
I still don't understand exactly how to do this. I have the natal midpoints but it's as simple as checking to see if any of them are at the same degree for the other individual?

I have no idea either how to read.
I can only look up aspects that are allready calculated by a computer.
Amateur I know...

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posted June 29, 2015 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.configurationhunter.com/astrology-tools/planet_midpoints

Example--
"The Sun/Moon midpoint requires an hour of birth. The position at Noon may be 7 degrees away from the real position of the Moon in a natal chart.
The Sun/Moon midpoint is the equavalent of (Sun + Moon)/2. Of course, to calculate this you need to use the degrees of the 360 degree circle. A Sun in the 10th degree of Taurus is at 40 degrees, a Moon in the 20th degree of Libra is in the 200th degree. The midpoint Sun/Moon of this example combination is at 120 degree (zero Leo).

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posted June 29, 2015 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meer55:
@ LeeLoo2014:

Where/How can I learn more about this?
Can you give me some advice?
Maybe a good book?
Not to complicated please haha...

Thank you for uploading these pictures, how did you do that??

<3 (L)


I uploaded them as I explained to you in the previous post

This forum is a great way to start. Start by looking for aspects, their interpretation, google them, and you can use the search engine here to look for specific aspects...chances are everything has been explained here at least once haha

I also recommend this website for learning astrology and a good reading list:
http://theinnerwheel.com/recommended-reading/

You can also contact me at my website email or other astrologers here doing synastry or natal interpretations (some of them - such as IQ, Ami Anne, Kannon McAffee - have their website linked in their signature) if you actually want a synastry, relationship evolution or natal report.

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posted June 29, 2015 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a very powerful Yod here leading to a marital conjunction in your 4th house and on his ASC. Moon and Saturn are the "mother and father" archetype, and in this case, they are connected to Juno.
The charts are very intense, with many close aspects.

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posted June 29, 2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is interesting. Can you elaborate a bit on your method? how do you see long vs short in the composite vs natals, and official vs non-official? Thank you


Ok, it is very simple.

Suppose there are aspects to composite angles to one of the involved person's angles and the other does not have them at all. Then you can say that the first person is "bonded" to the relationship strongly. It means that the person A takes this relationship as a serious one and sees future in it. While the other is involved but not "bonded" to it. So, this will be a short term relationship. Now, how you see this? Check composite angles to personal planets, rulers of the 5th, 4th, asc, 7th, 8th and even mc. You can do these both ways for both people. Then you can go for asteroids like Vesta, check for vertex, nn conjunctions, go for karma to saturn and mars aspects. Valentine, amor and lust. Also, check Juno and Chiron for commitment and healing.

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posted June 29, 2015 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meer55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You have a very powerful Yod here leading to a marital conjunction in your 4th house and on his ASC. Moon and Saturn are the "mother and father" archetype, and in this case, they are connected to Juno.
The charts are very intense, with many close aspects.


Hello there,

Thank you for sharing this with me, allthough I don't know what a Yod is.
Is there any way you can clarify this in a way that is as simple as possible?
And wich 3 planets are in this Yod?
I read something about an 'appex' ?
And what is a marital conjunction?
Marriage?
Sorry for being so new to all of this.


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posted June 29, 2015 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
Ok, it is very simple.

Suppose there are aspects to composite angles to one of the involved person's angles and the other does not have them at all. Then you can say that the first person is "bonded" to the relationship strongly. It means that the person A takes this relationship as a serious one and sees future in it. While the other is involved but not "bonded" to it. So, this will be a short term relationship. Now, how you see this? Check composite angles to personal planets, rulers of the 5th, 4th, asc, 7th, 8th and even mc. You can do these both ways for both people. Then you can go for asteroids like Vesta, check for vertex, nn conjunctions, go for karma to saturn and mars aspects. Valentine, amor and lust. Also, check Juno and Chiron for commitment and healing.


very interesting, Niki, thank you! and I will check some established couples for composite angles to natals...do you mean just conjunctions, or any hard aspect? I would probably consider any hard aspect (meaning conjunction to to composite angles or square)

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Juts taking a quick look at my parents (40+ happy marriage)

composite ASC 13.37 Sag conj Venus
also conjuncts father's Mars/Avx

and squares his Jupiter

this shows me he was really motivated to be in this relationship

mother's Saturn squares this composite angle as well, triggering her commitment

then composite MC 1.17 Libra is being squared by their very tight Venus/Mercury conjunction opposing his Chiron.

his Venus is his DSC ruler and her Mercury her 5th ruler

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posted June 29, 2015 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Meer55:
Hello there,

Thank you for sharing this with me, allthough I don't know what a Yod is.
Is there any way you can clarify this in a way that is as simple as possible?
And wich 3 planets are in this Yod?
I read something about an 'appex' ?
And what is a marital conjunction?
Marriage?
Sorry for being so new to all of this.


it shows a possible potential for that or at least a very 4th house like relationship (close like family); the Yod is made of your Venus/Chiron/Lilith conjunction and his Pluto/Neptune sextile and it happens on his ASC angle.

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