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yungang_grotto
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posted June 27, 2015 11:24 PM
  
There's this lady who is in my community here... She came to my cabin and began saying she could feel my father's spirit really strongly and relaying the great love he feels for me and especially my daughter. She was crying as she told me this. This lady is an indigenous spiritual person who began some beautiful things based on visions she has had; however many many of the people who were involved have dropped out of these gatherings and want nothing more to do with her because she has shown manipulative and selfish tendencies. She has just sent me a message saying she has been getting non stop visits from my father since she left the cabin, doors slamming and lights switching on and off, etc. She says it's a warning about my daughter and she just wants us to be safe. This warning came after I sent her a message refusing her offer of cleaning my cabin in exchange for money, in response to my kind refusal... She just called me and said my dad wants to warn me about my present partner because he doesn't want my daughter and I to get hurt... She also suggested turning my cabin into a women's retreat... my partner has been warning me against this lady since she made the offer of cleaning the cabin, as the offer included her mentioning she needs money for rent and was somewhat seeming to try to guilt me/coerce me... I'm mightily confused at this moment... What do you see in her chart? In mine? I see the Saturn conjunct my north node and my North node opposite her Pluto... And her moon square my Pluto so close... I was wondering if I should even entertain her on the phone... I'm concerned-- of course--the safety of my daughter and messages from my Dad are of the utmost importance to me--yet I've been feeling a great deal of peace with my dads spirit and getting beautiful messages from him lately so why would he be so insistent that he need to communicate through this lady?? It's just all weird... She asked if any of my moms boyfriends had ever abused me saying she was picking up on something there and they never did. i can't just take her at her word and break up with my partner... She seems really affected by the whole thing and I just am at a loss... Any help much appreciated... I should mention that my friends who have dissassociated from this woman have expressed fears of psychic attack from her which I was poo-pooing but now am beginning to take more seriously, although I take issue with the whole idea still because I don't want to give it more power. Wishing is never invited her to the cabin. so much energy wrapped up in that place for me... Long story... dad built it... Anyway... I need science  I need astrology... I need friends to help me... Can't talk to my partner about it (I will but he's obviously biased!). my last partner did end up abusive towards me and in a way towards my daughter also. I do not want that to happen again. I trust this person is not an abuser, but I am always open to possibilities and am naturally suspicious of basically everyone so it's hard to distinguish what's what sometimes... arrrgh  so here's this lady's birth stuff, I am too flustered(/lazy? to go on tinypic etc right now
jan 18 1965
8:18 am ( she thinks it was around 8, so no certainty at all)
portage la prairie mb
me
nov 13 1988 5 56 am
Winnipeg mb him sep 2 1983 12 00 pm
morden mb my daughter mar 29 2011 4:02 am
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Vajra
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posted June 27, 2015 11:44 PM
Beware of her, would be my first impression. It sounds as if she's preying on your vulnerabilities to rip you off and manipulate you. Don't you think your father would warn YOU directly, rather than asking her to do it for him? Come on, as a Scorp AC/Sun you have no need for that sort of thing. My advice: Distance yourself from her, preferably without offending her too much, but firmly, and avoid any further contact. Try to clean the cabin, and your mind, of HER. Such manipulative yet spiritually somewhat gifted people are dangerous. Keep her away from your daughter especially and build up inner strength to avoid being targeted again.
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yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 12:35 AM
I wrote the original post at the height of my susceptibility and am now laughing a bit. It was like: Here's your worst fear! And now I am like: good! I'm not scared.Thank you, that is good advice IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 12:38 AM
indeed my relationship with my dad's spirit is strong and positive and not in any need of doors slamming in anybody else's house. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 12:40 AM
She sounds crazy. Best instead to ask yourself what 'the message' is here; what's the overall lesson. IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted June 28, 2015 12:42 AM
She sounds dangerous. Just because someone is spiritually gifted doesn't mean she's a good person. She could be mixing lies with truth. Why doesn't she just get a job the honest way? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 12:49 AM
She's definitely a problematic individual and I now know why people are staying far away from her. I did tell her on the phone that I can't take her words as truth and that I have been getting many positive signs and messages about thus relationship I wished her peace...IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 12:55 AM
No, I'm serious. She sounds delusional. I second the 'possibly dangerous' sentiment.IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 12:55 AM
It is indeed an interesting lesson, and it's kinda interesting astrologically too, but you're all wise enough to make the call without pulling up the charts  Thank you <3 I really like that this forum exists, I think I mentioned that earlier somewhere. It's a good place  Aubyanne wrote:
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Best instead to ask yourself what 'the message' is here; what's the overall lesson.
It's interesting that all (two) of the people in my life who have questioned this relationship I'm in have had cogs loose... It's a useful reflection of the fallacy of my inner self-doubt/worst case scenario generator/fear based reality mechanism; showing it to be a self serving and sadistic/masochistic, unhealthy thing not based in real reality... Big lesson for me, big step toward choosing positivity/groundedness... shows I'm no longer addicted to fear. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 01:02 AM
Choosing positivity isn't the same thing as having a healthy scepticism. And there's never anything wrong with keeping your eyes wide open.IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 01:07 AM
I think choosing positivity and healthy skepticism can go hand in hand. I have tended towards irrational fear and judgment of some of my best allies over the years. I am done with irrational fear is what I'm saying. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I think choosing positivity and healthy skepticism can go hand in hand. I have tended towards irrational fear and judgment of some of my best allies over the years. I am done with irrational fear is what I'm saying.
I agree. Just don't forget that the key is balance. I never honestly thought that my husband would ever be abusive, either. I started out so madly in love with him. Full-throttle. Thing was, I hadn't resolved so many of the major issues I needed to, in order to have the right relationship. It's absolutely integral, the understanding that you must first love and trust yourself, above all. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 01:13 AM
Huh. Weird. So ... trust me on this one, Yungang. Can you 'get in touch' with your father? I just got a MAJOR sign you may want to. I still feel that woman's delusional (and likely dangerous), but I DO feel your father's trying to 'reach' you. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 01:17 AM
I don't want to hear it Aubyanne.IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 01:19 AM
I can't handle any more input from anybody else on anything my father might want to say to me tonight, is what I'm saying. Please desist.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 01:21 AM
Wow, you're myopic. Apologies for trying to help, as you were just asking for it. Besides, you have no idea what your father might actually be 'seeking' you for. You forget that we (you and I) have close synastry; especially with Scorpio points. The fact that I just received a bizarre sign whilst being on your thread, which specifically has to do with your possible situation was enough for me to at LEAST consider listening. Forget I said anything. I'm sure if it's that big of a deal it'll make its way to you. Unless you're just not paying attention, or someone in your sphere is blocking it. I've had that be the cause of things coming through me (for others) in the past. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 01:30 AM
I do have trust issues with you... and I regret asking for help and being vulnerable on here now... Scorpio contacts don't always make things easy breezy now, do they? I do respect and admire you, I appreciate you wanting to help in a way, and in another way I'm super defensive... I admit to the hypocrisy. It's obviously not a subject I'm entirely clear on despite my assertions to the contrary, yet perhaps I should accept the challenges if I'm so sure of myself...Yes, I feel open to messages from my dad. Yes, the answer is yes, as I said. is there a possibility there are blocks? Of course. Obviously it's not the same as it was when he was alive and it's not quite as easy to communicate with him so I am susceptible to such direct assertions of his communication with me from physical people because I miss him so much!! But for this exact reason the situation calls for the utmost sensitivity and with this lady it wasn't exhibited and her action was clearly self-serving. I ask for sensitivity from you because as I stated I can't handle any more possible messages from him coming through people who I only somewhat trust. Does that make sense? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted June 28, 2015 01:39 AM
I don't think he would go about it that way. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 28, 2015 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I don't think he would go about it that way.
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Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 02:04 AM
33, 54, 73.That's all I can do right now, Yungang. I would hardly consider myself a medium. My mother, however, is highly accomplished. I've certainly had my times, but nothing anywhere near what she's done. She taught me, however, to never, ever disregard someone in need. Those who are 'attuned' (for lack of better) can get dragged into another's business. It's just ... the way things go. And so I always offer my help. Something is going on. I suggest meditating. Steer clear of the crazy woman, but don't be surprised that there's something to her claiming a 'contact'. These signs are too strong to ignore. I'll let you take it from here. I'm very sorry that you lost your father. I cannot imagine. I will certainly do what I can to help. The initial 'maternal instinct' that it may concern your daughter feels sound. I don't get a sense of anything bad, however. But a definite seeking connexion.  IP: Logged |
Virgo28
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posted June 28, 2015 02:18 AM
@yungang_grotto:Always keep your mind open... Trust your own intuition. My own experience. There may be something that other people just don't understand. ------------------
"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted June 28, 2015 02:56 AM
Just adding my 2 cents here....I had a neighbor years ago, that obviously had the "gift of vision", for lack of a better description. She immediately took an interest in me, which soon turned into downright obsession. It was not of a sexual nature, and she was more than 3 times my age. I believe that she was an energetic vampire(and witch) feeding off of my psychic energy. She ended up putting a curse on me, which I know sounds crazy, and it pains me to say, because I absolutely hate the fact that she actually has that power. I never believed in such things until I experienced it firsthand. Once again, I can't stand even giving her credit to wield that sort of power. I would not trust this woman to be in your space, and don't accept any gifts from her, especially anything made of metal. Others have clearly had run ins with her, so just don't let her into your orbit. Just keep a safe distance from her. I will say though, that often people(myself included) get a bit antsy when someone genuinely has this type of psychic gift to "know" things. I wouldn't automatically write her off as delusional, but she may be using this gift for her own benefit, rather than to help. I have very strong intuitive abilities, and often times my warnings get rejected because people don't want to believe me, or they are just very uncomfortable with me having those sort of insights. I would suggest keeping her at arms length. If she is genuinely motivated by the desire to help you, then it will show. That being said, I don't think that you should completely trust your new partner either. It is healthy to have a mild distrust of any new person in your life, before you have really gotten to know them. This is especially true when there are children involved. I understand that being suspicious can cause barriers to intimacy, but that's not always a bad thing in the beginning. Scorpios are naturally suspicious because we understand the darker corners of the human psyche that exist in even the best of people. There's nothing wrong with "keeping your eyes open", as Aubyanne put it. If this man has you and your daughter's best interests in mind, he will understand and respect your need to proceed with caution. If either one of you are feeling overly defensive over any slight dissent about your relationship, that's a red flag in my opinion. Maybe you should meditate, and ask your father or your spirit guides to give you insight on the situation. I often ask for guidance right before I fall asleep, and information comes to me in dreams. Often the feelings in the dream are more important than the actual content. If your dad is really trying to warn you, you should be able to find out this way. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted June 28, 2015 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Just adding my 2 cents here....That being said, I don't think that you should completely trust your new partner either. It is healthy to have a mild distrust of any new person in your life, before you have really gotten to know them. This is especially true when there are children involved. I understand that being suspicious can cause barriers to intimacy, but that's not always a bad thing in the beginning. Scorpios are naturally suspicious because we understand the darker corners of the human psyche that exist in even the best of people. There's nothing wrong with "keeping your eyes open", as Aubyanne put it. If this man has you and your daughter's best interests in mind, he will understand and respect your need to proceed with caution. If either one of you are feeling overly defensive over any slight dissent about your relationship, that's a red flag in my opinion. Maybe you should meditate, and ask your father or your spirit guides to give you insight on the situation. I often ask for guidance right before I fall asleep, and information comes to me in dreams. Often the feelings in the dream are more important than the actual content. If your dad is really trying to warn you, you should be able to find out this way.
 Perfectly stated, Blue. While I can't say what's going on here, this is the soundest advice. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted June 29, 2015 02:37 PM
I haven't read everyone's post and it may be a repeat but unless she offers you something concrete, specific about your father..... I wouldn't take her 'message' serious. When I say 'specific', something from the past that you and your father or family members know. Anyone can say your grandma is here and she's worried. I would be worried about letting her in my cabin. Kindly refuse and distance yourself. IP: Logged |
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