posted June 29, 2015 05:00 PM            

there was a great short interpretation here to describe Amor from Valentine ...
in a few words, Valentine will jump in front of his/her beloved to protect and take the bullet themselves.

posted June 30, 2015 04:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Hello,

there was a great short interpretation here to describe Amor from Valentine ...
in a few words, Valentine will jump in front of his/her beloved to protect and take the bullet themselves.

Amor, on the other hand, will offer to be taken/killed instead of their loved one.

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Thanks Orange, I can put it this way Amor is more sacrificial love while Valentine is more protective love. Both are selfless and unconditional. But I feel Valentine is more passionate while Amor is more vulnerable.

What I want to know exactly is how does Valentine react with Venus in synastry. I feel is it protective and passionate towards Venus person? Valentine is attracted to Venus's beauty and so falls in love. With a Pluto Valentine aspect, I feel Valentine loves Power of Pluto and is protective and passionate about the Pluto person. Amor would be more vulnerable in love.

posted June 30, 2015 08:30 AM            

Valentine will love all things Venusians in their partner and be very protective of this love.

posted June 30, 2015 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Yes, to Venus conj Valentine

Valentine will love all things Venusians in their partner and be very protective of this love.

Amor is unconditional love. You love that person even if they dont belong to you, you love them warts and all. You love them even if they may not love you back.
Valentine is more about the act of being in love

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Good, I want to know the Venus person or Planet person feels. I have heard Valentine conjunct Pluto in synastry is obsessive love.

posted July 01, 2015 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Amor is unconditional love. You love that person even if they dont belong to you, you love them warts and all. You love them even if they may not love you back.
Valentine is more about the act of being in love

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This is intriguing.

I have an unusual complementary synastric 'resonance pattern' of sorts.

22° CAP 46 | ALICE
23° CAP 18 | AMOR
(0°32)

19° GEM 01 | VALENTINE
19° GEM 24 | MADHATTER
(0°23)

posted July 01, 2015 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
This is intriguing.

I have an unusual complementary synastric 'resonance pattern' of sorts.

22° CAP 46 | ALICE
23° CAP 18 | AMOR
(0°32)

19° GEM 01 | VALENTINE
19° GEM 24 | MADHATTER
(0°23)

There's almost a quincunx between them, too. Also, mine is 5H, while his is 7H. Given the two similar but differently unconditional, sacrificial, and loving energies of VALENTINE versus AMOR, I've always found myself curious about my ALICE-AMOR and his MADHATTER-VALENTINE conjunction.

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THe quincunx is a bit wide, tho...Do you have any planets on 20-23 Scorpio or Leo? I take that the energy that these two groups exchange could be better contained if you or a partner have something on those points

posted July 01, 2015 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
THe quincunx is a bit wide, tho...Do you have any planets on 20-23 Scorpio or Leo? I take that the energy that these two groups exchange could be better contained if you or a partner have something on those points

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I'm not counting an aspect between them; there's almost a quincunx, but it's too far from orb.

Do I have anything at 23º SCORPIO? Well, let's see ... if we take a 3º orb, I've got URA (0º), MOON (1º), and 'my Scorpio stellium' -- about 5 points from 24º-25º.

As to 23º LEO? His VENUS is there; KARMA is 21º LEO.

posted July 01, 2015 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by jjj:
His valentine is conjunct my Venus/Mars conjunction and I'm head over heels for him...

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I think that's probably because your VENUS/MARS midpoint is involved.

posted July 01, 2015 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
19° GEM 01 | VALENTINE
19° GEM 24 | MADHATTER
(0°23)

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Interesting ; Mr. Scorp. has the opposition :

posted July 01, 2015 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Auby,

It's about forming a Yod
Quincunx tend to be restless due to lack of outlet as the two planets/astero dont know how to act with each other. With a Yod thou - the energy starts flowing and it gets released thru the apex. Feels like a relief

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posted July 01, 2015 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Interesting ; Mr. Scorp. has the opposition :

13° CAN 00' : VALENTINE
13° CAP 11' : MADHATTER

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There is something up with that point, I'm telling you. I just don't quite know what yet.

posted July 01, 2015 06:06 PM            

A pattern I DID notice awhile back:

23° CAP 18 | AMOR (mine)
22° PIS 27 | AMOR (his)
21° LEO 45 | KARMA (his)
23° LEO 31 | VENUS (his)

Ergo, my ALICE-AMOR is definitely scooped up into the Yod, which, is wide-ish (2°) in some places, but clearly there.

His VENUS-KARMA in my 12H, his 9H.
His AMOR in my 7H. (Mine in his 2H.)

posted July 01, 2015 06:10 PM            

that Yod is amazing

Both Amores at the base ( so balanced), circulating the energy towards Venus-Karma ( his, thou).

posted July 02, 2015 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Auby,

that Yod is amazing

Both Amores at the base ( so balanced), circulating the energy towards Venus-Karma ( his, thou).

Wonderful Yod
it's not wide-ish, because each party drags the other onto it

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Wow. Thanks, Orange. Very useful information. I'm still getting the hang of Yods. I've got a natal one -- SUN/PLUTO sextile NEPTUNE quincunx CHIRON. ... Fun! (Heh.)

Funny thing; I was wondering how I could get in on the LEO here, but most just misses it:

18° LEO | NNODE
27° LEO | ISIS

Or is just barely there:

20° LEO | VESTA

But this got me, as I'd never given it full consideration before. But given the ALICE involvement ...

24° LEO | ARIADNE
25° LEO | CHESHIRECAT

See, 'Cheshire Cat' is something of a karmic code for SNAFU that is now passed FUBAR and reached FUBAB. VERY bad things are signalled by Cheshire Cat.

What's intriguing is ARIADNE -- who found her true soulmate (Dionysus) only after being horribly betrayed by Theseus. That's ... quite interesting.

posted July 02, 2015 04:25 AM            

I think such a person is not great at falling in love but Pluto may bring out passion.

posted July 02, 2015 04:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Orange,

A pattern I DID notice awhile back:

23° CAP 18 | AMOR (mine)
22° PIS 27 | AMOR (his)
21° LEO 45 | KARMA (his)
23° LEO 31 | VENUS (his)

Ergo, my ALICE-AMOR is definitely scooped up into the Yod, which, is wide-ish (2°) in some places, but clearly there.

His VENUS-KARMA in my 12H, his 9H.
His AMOR in my 7H. (Mine in his 2H.)

Definitely something there.

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I can tell one thing about that guy, he is destined to "love" and follow Venus's path. His love will most likely be karmic in nature.

So, what you think about Valentine conjunct Karma exact synastry? Guy is Karma n girl is Valentine, his Karma also conjuncts her Saturn -2 deg orb