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CapriJem
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posted July 06, 2015 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so confused whenever I meet this girl. Does she like me or hate me? I've been dreaming of her lately. Now I've decided to change the school and we'll split soon. Will we ever meet each other again?

Here's the chart below. The outer one is hers but I don't know her birth time. I guess Leo is her ascendant... ?

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llewsacm
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posted July 08, 2015 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there!

You cant guess her ascendant without an accurate birth time.

Her vertex conjunct your north node is karmic. Her Neptune on your ascendant may cause you to dream of her. Jupiter conjunct Venus is a wonderful aspect. Whether or not your paths cross again might just be up to you my friend.

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CapriJem
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posted July 08, 2015 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi llewsacm! LOL I know I can't guess the ascendant. That's just my desperate attempt.

You mentioned Vertex conj NN is karmic (whether if this aspect really exists between us is doubtful, since I don't know her birth time). Can you briefly explain that? I've searched this thru the web and I don't get many hints. How does this aspect affect each other?

Do you think her moon conjuncts my vertex? Another thing about her moon is that it's close to my 8th house cusp. People say this aspect makes an obsessive relationship. But which one should get more obsessive? The moon owner or the house owner?

Neptune conj Asc = me dreaming of her often.... hmmm... OK, but Neptune moves so slowly. Does it mean that I dream about the people of her generation often?

I guess you can't find any other supportive aspects to our relationship so it shouldn't be an "energetic" one. Do you think our relationship should be an ordinary one?

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llewsacm
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posted July 08, 2015 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, ok!

Maybe I should have been more specific. The whole NN and vertex thing...NN is our souls purpose in life. For you, in relationships anyhow, finding someone who can be a lover and a friend is key with your placement. The friend part is important with your 11 house NN placement. With her vertex there, this may be an opportunity for you to move closer to that purpose. Anything that touches our vertex or our NN has a fated feeling to it. It does not necessarily mean it is lasting, but it can teach us something important about ourselves that can move us to a new level in our lives.

I guess what you are referencing with the 8th house could be valid, by cannot comment on it unfortunately.

With Neptune on your ascendant...there was a full moon in Capricorn moving through that area of your chart on July 1, so if your dreams happened around that time it could have triggered the dreams. Or it could be another aspect/transit I am missing.

Hope this helps somewhat!

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posted July 08, 2015 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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CapriJem
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posted July 10, 2015 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Ami.

Hey llewsacm, I've read your reply. Right! I did dream of her at about July 1.

Just checked her composite chart with me and with other person. I should've accepted that she doesn't like me. Whatever, perhaps I'm just being too lonely and isolated, that I was turned on by her for no good reasons.

There's just one last question to this synastry. I found out my sun/moon midpoint conjuncts her nn while her sun/moon midpoint conjuncts my mars. I appreciate any opinions you guys can give on these aspects.

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llewsacm
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posted July 10, 2015 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww...you really like this girl! Hey listen, what you are pointing out with the midpoints, I love working with midpoints btw, I think they get brushed aside too often in synastry. Anyhow, s/m midpoint on her NN...you mentioned you cant tell if she like you or hates you...lol. Your s/m mp might make her feel uneasy, but curious. When we touch someone's NN, thats an area where we need to grow, to evolve. Your mp can trigger her to feel uncomfortable, but still drawn to you, so maybe thats why you get the mixed messages. S/M mp on mars would make you want to pursue her, not obsessive like Pluto, but more of a raw, primal want. Check your other midpoints and see where you have close connections. I'd be curious to see if there's anything else present.

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CapriJem
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posted July 13, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's a swift response you gave me thx!

Apart from sun/moon and venus/mars, what kinda midpoint do you look for when it comes to relationship?

I also find out my sun/moon midpoint has to oppose her moon, since her sun conjuncts her own SN.

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posted July 13, 2015 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at all your midpoints and anything that touches the natal. It will give you an overall "picture". Astro.com gives you the positions...you just compare them to your own midpoints and natals. Let me know what you find!

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posted July 14, 2015 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun/moon midpoint conj. her NN + Pluto.
My sun/venus midpoint opp. her mars, square uranus + neptune.
My sun/mars midpoint conj. her moon(prolly), square sun, pluto, NN.
My sun/saturn square her saturn.
My sun/chiron square her mercury.
My sun/ascendant square her chiron

Her sun/moon conj. my mars, square sun
Her sun/mars opp. my venus, square my saturn.

That's quite a list so I'll give you a list of sun midpoint. I used a 3 deg orb.

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posted July 18, 2015 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Caprijem, let's start with the midpoints that have 1 degree or less. Those will be the most powerful...can you list the orbs? Thanks!

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CapriJem
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posted July 19, 2015 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol plz gimme some time to do that. Last time I tried to match the synastry it took me almost forever to calculate the orb. So far I have the orbs for my sun/planets midpoint

Orb (1 deg)
My sun/venus opposites her mars, squares her uranus
My sun/mars squares her pluto
My sun/saturn squares her saturn (~0 deg)
My sun/ascendant squares her chiron
My sun/chiron squares her mercury
sun/moon conj NN (<1 deg, but you've explained this)

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posted July 19, 2015 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't mean to be a bummer but the vertex, angles, moon and any midpoints involving her moon are not going to be accurate without her exact birth time...so the aspects involving those need to be taken with a grain of salt.
That vertex/NN and Moon/vertex probably need not be listed as aspects until we know if they really are. But, yes if those aspects are there they would be very meaningful....but try to get her time of birth, if possible!

You do have Venus on SN...this shows love from a past life being brought forward into this life. This would be a love that needs to be completed, there was something regarding this love that was unfinished or left undone. This isn't necessarily a lifelong love, it's lifespan will only last until the love has run it's course and karma is balanced. That could take a lifetime or it could take only a year(s).

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llewsacm
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posted July 20, 2015 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orb (1 deg)
my sun/venus opposites her mars, squares her uranus
*the sun and Venus opposite mars might trigger the desire for love with this person, but with a push/pull effect of the opposition. Still, the attraction is magnetic.

my sun/mars squares her pluto
*not 100% sure on this one, but the square to this midpoint might produce friction in regards to your drive and purpose. Pluto is jarring you in some way.

my sun/saturn squares her saturn (~0 deg)
*this would represent a separation of some sort, which you mentioned I believe.

my sun/ascendant squares her chiron
*not sure? Maybe someone with more education of Chiron can help. Sun/ascendant is a blend of your ego and personality, so hard aspect to her Chiron would represent pain/healing of some sort perhaps.

my sun/chiron squares her mercury
*pain to your ego due to lack of or infrequent communication with mercury? Again, not sure...

Hope that helps? Its really cool that you are digging for answers with these synastry connections. I think it shows a level of maturity and potential for your souls growth! I know it helps and has helped me!

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astra7
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posted July 21, 2015 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's probably a good guess.
Her Neptune on your Asc would make you confused.

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CapriJem
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posted July 26, 2015 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found out none of our venus/mars midpoints form aspect with each other's planets. Does it mean I'm friendzoned? (I don't really mind being friend-zoned by her though coz I never think she's the right person.)

Btw, what does Venus conjunct SN signify? I know it's karmic but I mean... who usually pays more effort on that relationship? And any examples on that?

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CapriJem
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posted November 29, 2015 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriJem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello folks! I hope somebody can answer my new discovery.

I want to read this chart again using lilith aspect.
What does it mean when:

her sun squares, her moon opposites, her venus trines, and her mars sextile my lilith?

I have my moon trines her lilith.

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