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Aunt Anomalia
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posted July 07, 2015 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last night I played with harmonic charts and somehow I ended up involving a persona chart of an asteroid that is important to me. I noticed some peculiarities and I want to know if there's a logical explanation for all of this.


In every comparison (same harmonics) I checked happens this: the asteroid in my H chart on the Sun in the asteroid's H chart. Exactly to the second. In case it's important, in my natal the Sun and this asteroid are 9 deg away from each other.


Asteroid's MC
In every harmonic (starting from the 2nd one) it regresses by 7 seconds. Does it have something to do with the fact that in the persona it's located at 29.59'53"? Something similar is going on with my Moon. It's located at 29.53 in my natal and with each harmonic it regresses by 7 minutes. Another thing I noticed about my Moon is that there's a...yodal sequence? 2nd, 3th and 4th H Moons could build a yod and the cycle repeats itself.


Asteroid's ASC
It regresses each time by 2.33 and falls only into water signs: Scorpio, Pisces, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces, Cancer etc. until it falls at 29.20 Aqua in the 12th harmonic and then it's just air signs. The original MC is at 27.27 Cancer. I observed the same pattern with someone who has their ASC in late Scorpio.


That's not the end...
This person and I are somewhat connected by this asteroid and it turns out in their case the same process is in play. Natal harmonic asteroid right on the asteroid's harmonic Sun. There's also another individual where the same happens.


Help?


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Ceridwen
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posted July 07, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" every comparison (same harmonics) I checked happens this: the asteroid in my H chart on the Sun in the asteroid's H chart."
That is the definition of a persona chart. The Sun will ALWAYS be exact to the second on the point the planet or asteroid (you make a persona chart of) in the natal chart.

This is not going to change in harmonic charts either (the natal is actually the first harmonic chart)


"Does it have something to do with the fact that in the persona it's located at 29.59'53"? Something similar is going on with my Moon. It's located at 29.53 in my natal and with each harmonic it regresses by 7 minutes."
Yes, I think so.


as for the other questions, I am too lazy to wrap my head around for now. sorry

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted July 07, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I feel a little stupid now

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Ceridwen
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posted July 07, 2015 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why would you feel stupid?

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Aubyanne
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posted July 08, 2015 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My general rule of thumb:

If it's repeating across several charts, and seems too unlikely to be happening, it's mathematically explained and consistent via methodology.

Take the NNODE in all Draconic charts at 0° ARIES. Some don't immediately know it's part of the process.

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Ceridwen
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posted July 08, 2015 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same happens btw in the synastry-composite - comparision.

If you share a close synastric conjunction, each partner will have a conjunction of their natal planet, which takes part of the synastry-cconjunction, to one of the same planets in the composite.

Example:
Mr Sag`s Moon conjuncts my Sun

composite Sun is conjunct my Sun and his Moon


another thing that I still have no explanation for but that must be a mathematic thing.


The Venus position in the helio Davison and helio Composite seem to be always conjunct or opposite (though not always in exact orbs).


Examples:

Mr Sag and me
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helio c-Venus 13 Aquarius
helio D-Venus 13 Aquarius
(orb is one minute in our case)


my parents
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helio c-Venus 4 Cancer
helio D-Venus 5 Capricorn


Johnny Cash - June Carter
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helo C-Venus 15 Aries
helio D-Venus 14 ARies


my brother and his gf
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helo C-Venus 27 Pisces
helio D-Venus 27 Pisces


No clue why this is so. I mean certainly Venus does not move far from Sun hence I understand why it would be close, but THAT close? And why does Mercury not follow this "rule"?

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted July 08, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
why would you feel stupid?

I should have figured this asteroid-Sun thing out since I play with personas.

Thanks for the examples.


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