posted July 18, 2015 08:10 PM              

Sun-Pluto Square in composite without much else going on.

Pluto aspects.

posted July 19, 2015 08:41 PM            

But for what it's worth I was able to find this:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Homolka%2c_Karla

I'm not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for as you may be asking about those who overlook it and pretend it doesn't exist. Yet Harley Quinn was herself a supervillain so I think she's perfect. The only thing was when the "Disney dream" of hers ended (as he took to brutally beating her) she finally left him. But as long as she had her Disney Princess dream she was loyal and would give him anything, even her little sister, and was the Harley Quinn to his Joker.

Coincidentally I looked up a YT vid on her for someone I emailed last night that explains it (up to about the 28 minute mark), though as the narration gets a bit theatrical with some dramatic recreations I'm going to throw in possible trigger warnings for any who choose to watch this:
http://youtu.be/NtM2p2_0rRU?t=51s

posted July 19, 2015 09:01 PM            

I know someone who's Nessus is square my Dejanira exact, his Nessus sits on my Psyche and trines my Venus. It took me forever to get out of that spell, he was abusive, eventually I did see it and got away.

posted July 20, 2015 01:44 AM              

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I only knew one like this, and what was strange is that she BECAME like that in her 50s which was a radical shift, so I'm guessing some transits combined with synastry (along with severe childhood abuse) was involved. But I no longer have her chart and know almost nothing of the man's chart that she did that for.

But for what it's worth I was able to find this:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Homolka%2c_Karla

I'm not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for as you may be asking about those who overlook it and pretend it doesn't exist. Yet Harley Quinn was herself a supervillain so I think she's perfect. The only thing was when the "Disney dream" of hers ended (as he took to brutally beating her) she finally left him. But as long as she had her Disney Princess dream she was loyal and would give him anything, even her little sister, and was the Harley Quinn to his Joker.

Coincidentally I looked up a YT vid on her for someone I emailed last night that explains it (up to about the 28 minute mark), though as the narration gets a bit theatrical with some dramatic recreations I'm going to throw in [b]possible trigger warnings for any who choose to watch this:
http://youtu.be/NtM2p2_0rRU?t=51s

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posted July 20, 2015 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I would think Nessus/Dejanira could give this kind of energy also...esp when their is love asteroids connected to.

I know someone who's Nessus is square my Dejanira exact, his Nessus sits on my Psyche and trines my Venus. It took me forever to get out of that spell, he was abusive, eventually I did see it and her away.

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posted July 20, 2015 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
Another case of g.Violetta at HNN kridsaporn

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Who?

I just did a google search and didn't see anything I wanted to click on. I presume this is a real person involved in serial killing (otherwise why would you list her?). I'd prefer a wikipedia link if you can manage it (and since I'm supposed to know who you're talking about I presume there is one). And also a natal chart or birthday since that would contribute to this thread (assuming she is a real life serial killer or at least aided one, which she must be or you wouldn't have listed her as being like Karla).

posted July 20, 2015 06:56 AM            

Maybe strong venus in Pisces because venus in Pisces is the giver of the zodiac (and the intend to get used not all venus in Pisces

posted July 20, 2015 06:20 PM              

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Who?

I just did a google search and didn't see anything I wanted to click on. I presume this is a real person involved in serial killing (otherwise why would you list her?). I'd prefer a wikipedia link if you can manage it (and since I'm supposed to know who you're talking about I presume there is one). And also a natal chart or birthday since that would contribute to this thread (assuming she is a real life serial killer or at least aided one, which she must be or you wouldn't have listed her as being like Karla).

ETA: or did you mean the documentary I found on YT is like some other show or channel?

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'when I said another case of' I was referring to this one AS IN not the first I have noticed.
I have some data I cannot ethically share, no permissions.

Lameia,Violetta,Child,Kridsadaporn
Geo Longitude,north and south nodes perigee and apogee, Heliocentric Longitude,nodes and perihelion and aphelion connections to lunar node, sun , Mars,Saturn,Uranus and Pluto. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Category:Passions_:_Criminal_Perpetrator_: _Rapist/_Sex_crime

unfortunately know persons affected which sent me researching it and since I was already headed in the direction of Helio to Geo(unaccepted but un-researched) I looked there.
Even these events(large sex trade rings being busted) in the news or the msnbc series sex-slaves AIRING new shows is refected in those asteroids being transited
and tied together.

posted July 20, 2015 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
... Helio to Geo(unaccepted but un-researched) I looked there ....

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posted July 20, 2015 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
'when I said another case of' I was referring to this one AS IN not the first I have noticed.

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Thanks. I got a book that includes many of the asteroids in astrology but I still haven't gotten around to reading it yet (I have so many books to read...). I only know something about a handful of them.

When I was a runaway I knew plenty who turned tricks, and the stories some of them had of what johns wanted (a few weirder than anything I've come across in fiction, though granted I almost never watch shows like CSI which I've heard incorporates some weird kinks into their stories)... Of course I don't even know their charts, let alone the charts of any women who tolerated it. Though it was depressing how many runaways fled homes in which the mothers facilitated sexual abuse of their children to men for a variety of reasons, at least one (who I actually met as she came looking for her daughter) even said she knew about the sexual abuse (though said he wouldn't do it again) but if the 13-year-old didn't come back then he was going to leave her (and really thought to guilt the child into coming back that way). Have no idea what her chart was like either.

posted July 21, 2015 04:50 PM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
According to ... ? Unless you mean the Helio nodes specifically. Do you?

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I know one astrologer(irl) who stated we should be doing research of checking the the full geo pattern/// meaning >geo nodes and the perigee and apogee against the fixed Helio nodes/ Helio perihelion and aphelion do move but very little and they swing as well.
That is what I do.
I have never found any studies to support it.
However it is how we learn what we don't know. I am not obsessed with accepted practices.
If there is a large amount of research being done one it somewhere, I am unaware of it

posted July 21, 2015 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I only knew one like this, and what was strange is that she BECAME like that in her 50s which was a radical shift, so I'm guessing some transits combined with synastry (along with severe childhood abuse) was involved. But I no longer have her chart and know almost nothing of the man's chart that she did that for.

But for what it's worth I was able to find this:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Homolka%2c_Karla

I'm not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for as you may be asking about those who overlook it and pretend it doesn't exist. Yet Harley Quinn was herself a supervillain so I think she's perfect. The only thing was when the "Disney dream" of hers ended (as he took to brutally beating her) she finally left him. But as long as she had her Disney Princess dream she was loyal and would give him anything, even her little sister, and was the Harley Quinn to his Joker.

Coincidentally I looked up a YT vid on her for someone I emailed last night that explains it (up to about the 28 minute mark), though as the narration gets a bit theatrical with some dramatic recreations I'm going to throw in [b]possible trigger warnings for any who choose to watch this:
http://youtu.be/NtM2p2_0rRU?t=51s

[/B]

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posted March 09, 2020 04:56 PM            

Your personal planet or angle conj their North Node in synastry, Saturn and Pluto aspects to personal planets in synastry combined with a composite Neptune square/opposite the composite personal planets like venus or moon.

The synastry NN aspect: When you’re the planet/angle person it’s like you’re on a mission to contribute to their life path. With SN aspects this urge dissolves after a while, with NN it’s like a never-ending story, for you! The other person will seldom feel as attached as you do, because it’s their NN, a potential place of discomfort. but you’re literally stuck to this person for better or worse and this is also the initial hook. (Venus/Moon/IC make you the most vulnerable.)

Saturn/Pluto aspects in synastry: Saturn is binding and has a karmic flavor, Pluto is obsessive and lends intensity.

The hard composite Neptune aspect to composite moon or venus: From experience I can tell this is the worst! I’ve experienced Pluto/Saturn hard aspects in composites, and while they’re highly frustrating and inconvenient at times, at least they don’t cloud your judgment. You know the other person goes on your nerves. You are aware of the power plays or the restrictions, and sometimes this boils over so much, that you‘re able to walk away. With the Neptune hard aspect to Moon or Venus your whole judgment is off, for quite a long time, and you only see what you want to see. You idolize your relationship and skim over the harsh stuff.
It plays also into the victim/savior theme which is quite reminiscent of the Harley Quinn/Joker relationship, I think. She started out as his therapist and fell in love because she saw that vulnerable part in him that supposedly no one else could see. From then on she was dreaming the impossible dream, that these two could some day reach a point of normalcy. (Her dream about her and Joker in a nuclear family setting with two kids in suburbia, as shown in Suicide Squad) This kept her on this self-destructive mission to proof her devotion to him, no matter what.

I think the Neptune composite aspect is much stronger than in synastry. In synastry you could resolve that issue with enough self-reflection and mutual honesty. In composite it’s more tricky. Even if you rationally see the other person for who they are, being in that relationship automatically puts a rose colored haze around everything! You‘re constantly aware of ‚the potential‘, it’s constantly there like a hologram, and makes it very hard not to fall back into wishful thinking. In this state you’re willing to tolerate all kinds of abuse.

And even when that relationship dissolves, ...because of that NN aspect in synastry you remain vulnerable to them. You‘d basically have to cut them out of your life completely, to finally heal. You’d have to go cold-turkey on them.

posted March 18, 2020 11:40 PM            

*Intercepted Pisces (pisces locked in a house, no house cusp in pisces)