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hannaramaa
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posted July 21, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Moon / Pluto in hard aspect isn't part of a sexual relationship, what are some other examples of it appearing? Basically: tell me a story of a Moon/Pluto theme with whomever you had it with.

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posted July 21, 2015 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emotional blackmail? :O

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posted July 21, 2015 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon opposite Pluto - I was the moon. It was the most intense attachment I've ever had for someone. Started with a bang and ended with no explanation. It broke my heart for almost a year.

Now, he's not doing well at all. His reputation is ruined and now I know for sure I should never have trusted him. I think we had some really 'bad karma.' Our moons were also conjunct - mine was in his 12th, and his Karma was somewhere in that conjunction. His Sun and SN were conjunct my Vertex by 5 minutes, and there was Neptune all over.
But the Moon-Pluto was the hardest part. I really thought I was just going to die without him, and I didn't leave my room for 2 weeks (unless it was for food). I didn't go to class or anything, I just saw no point and failed almost everything. I was out of my mind. Every single day I felt like my soul got replaced with a banshee. I'm very glad he's finally out of my system.


Ah! ok, I see you asked for a non-sexual relationship example. Just this year, I met a friend who I had a double-whammy Pluto-Moon opposition, each 3 degrees. We were instantly drawn together, and became fast friends. We only hung out a few times, and I was late for almost all of those times, and each time I remember being almost in tears thinking that she was going to get mad and leave because of the lateness. And she didn't, but I found it generally hard to connect with her, like I was always pushing her away. It was definitely an assertion of power and attempt to control me, because I learned she didn't act this way with anyone else. Anyway, we stopped talking to each other because I was too busy to call her for about a month. She even unfriended me on Facebook, and she's 8 years older than I am.. I messaged her wanting to reconnect, and she told me to 'just call her,' and I never did. So that was that. All or nothing, I guess.

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posted July 22, 2015 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it sounds like to me whenever one person got "bossy" (or rather with Moon Pluto there's a "boss" and a "employee") the other person rebelled whether consciously or subconsciously. Interesting, thank you!

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posted July 24, 2015 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'All or nothing' sounds close.

I'd say the ultimate purpose is emotional honesty. It's almost as if there's a tacit bit of score-keeping regarding vulnerability, too. Even in the most well-meaning, genuine cases. There still tends to be this undercurrent of keeping track of who's 'bearing more' or 'greater invested'. PLUTO, believe it or not, can become very disconcerted by the MOON's lack of, or worse, withdrawing, its vulnerability.

I know we've said that PLUTO holds all the cards and is 'in charge' and in control, but that's not always the case. There will always be variations, even exceptions, and definitely modifications. I think PLUTO feels it's got more at stake if it's to truly be vulnerable to the MOON, so the latter should treat the opportunity or experience with reciprocity, or even kid gloves. We all know PLUTO doesn't take kindly to being 'shown up'. Worse, it can perceive it as a sort of rejection.

This is why I feel the key is emotional honesty, but I'd also toss in there an objective to achieve mutual, reciprocal vulnerability.

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posted July 24, 2015 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could see that. I wonder if the aspect is more pronounced in opposite sex / opposite gender-identifying friendships than same sex ones. I agree in that there is an emotional tug-o-war. I experienced it with the last two guys I liked - there was an undercurrent of, like, a boiling pot of all the things we should have said but neither ofnus wanted to expose ourselves.

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posted July 24, 2015 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I see that I have Moon inconjunct Pluto with a guy I am seeing. I am Pluto.

Not sure what that means..

I do feel very relaxed with him and we are definitely going with the flow. It is going a bit slow for me, but it feels right.

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posted July 24, 2015 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are inconjunct aspects really that powerful?

You'll know when the aspect is playing out, it's too frustrating usually not to.

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Koniucha
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posted July 24, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Are inconjunct aspects really that powerful?

You'll know when the aspect is playing out, it's too frustrating usually not to.


I have no idea. Doesn't seem that way I guess.

I personally have Moon square Pluto natally, so I know exactly how it would feel.

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posted July 25, 2015 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edit

I read Moon as Mars. Oops.

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