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Lucia23
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posted March 03, 2009 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just reading that when someone's Sun falls in your 11th house in synastry, you might see them as "just a friend." Is this true?

What are your experiences with "unromantic" house overlays in synastry? I've personally never had a partner whose Sun fell in my 1st, 5th, 7th, or 8th house.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 04, 2009 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like having a person's Sun fall into my 11th. Remember too that it's the love received position. I have felt a lot of love from Aqua males, dated a few, and fell head over heels for one many, many years ago. So I don't think it's a 'friends only' position....certainly I'd say there's a friendship there, but I don't feel it rules out sexual or romantic attraction.

I married someone a while ago whose sun fell into my 9th. It didn't work out, but I think that's proof enough that they all needn't be 7th house 'perfection'....though my sun did fall into his 7th, and my moon fell into his 4th.
And oddly enough, I never really felt much for the 5th house stuff....my own Sun is there, and as much as I love Leo males, I've never felt the overwhelming need to have it be more than friendly or casual.

8th house and 1st house is a different story. They wreck me. A guy put his Sun, Moon, and Mercury into my 1st and I went into sensory overload. He completely eclipsed me - the 1st house stuff shakes me up, and it's not particularly easy! But the sexual attraction is pretty intense. You just NOTICE the person no matter what.

8th house presence - Sun and Mercury changed my life. But it was painful. Still, there's more to the house placements .... Cappadora had a great thread about the extended sensitive houses (I should try and find it). For instance, if I were a Scorpio rising, that would make my Dcs Taurus, and the 2nd house would actually be a sensitive spot for me too.

Hope that makes sense

Also - don't underestimate the 4th house! That's like your very soul and creates a very powerful bond!

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 04, 2009 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, my ex's sun and a number of sags I've been attracted to have their suns falling in this house.

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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's say something like this is going on, though:

Person A's
Sun falls in Person B's 11th house
Mars-Venus conjunction falls in Person B's 2nd house
(no planets fall in 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, or 8th house)

Person B's
Sun falls in person A's 5th house
Mars-Venus conjunction falls in Person A's 8th house

Would this lead to an unequal attraction, potentially (imagining that there are no more "mutual" attraction signifiers in the rest of the chart? For example, Person B totally having the hots for person A, and person A wanting to be "just friends"?

(I'm checking out a friend's synastry with the guy he has a crush on...he doesn't want me to post charts here...but it got me thinking about this more generally, since there was a guy I was attracted to recently who I seemed to have "unequal" synastry with.)

I know no placement rules out attraction...my ex and I were a ninth-house couple (although, there werre some serious other things going on in that synastry)...but it seems like this might make it unequal, UNLESS the planet person also feels some of the other person's house (such as, in the example above, both A and B feeling an erotic pull from the Mars-Venus falling in the 8th.)

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 04, 2009 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it largely depends on what a person looks for in a relationship. I (usually) like to be atleast 'friendly' with someone first before I ever enter anything else. I think anyone with an air moon and/or venus might feel that way, actually.

If you or someone else has something like heavy scorpio/pluto, water, or fire; it might be a different story.

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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2009 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm super fiery/watery, with some Pluto stuff happening (8th house stellium, Pluto sq my Moon and Asc), and I still prefer to be "friends first." I'm not usually at all interested in someone romantically/sexually unless I feel a deep friendship connection and rapport first and foremost.

But, that doesn't quite address my question about house overlays.

If person A's planets are falling in all of person B's "hot" houses (5th, 7th, 8th), and poor person B's planets are falling in waaay less sexy/romantic houses, will that make person B the more smitten one?

Or does that vary?

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 04, 2009 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I wasn't clear: I should have said that that also depends on the person's chart IMO. To me, Its almost the same as the 'all trines or all squares?' questions. If the person is heavily air or has certain planets in predominantly air houses, these kind of house overlays might not bother them.

And remember that house overlays aren't the only factor in a synastry chart, there's also aspects to consider too, and the fact that even with planets falling in predominantly 'neutral houses', there are chances they could be hitting 5th, 7th, or 8th house rulers by aspect. *edit* And then there's the fact that the 9th or 11th can be activated romantically by way of having their natural rulers on the 5th or 7th.


On the other side of the argument, Cafeastrology has an article about this that might support this claim. Only they think its the activating of the 'watery' houses like the 4th and 8th that makes the house person more attached. Oh wait, that's totally different. You're talking about romantic interest...lo siento.

Anywho, here's the article for some insight: http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html

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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2009 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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yinyang
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posted March 04, 2009 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the ruler of my 7th is in my 3rd house, does it make my 3rd house more "romantic" ie. people who have their planets falling in my 3rd or conjunct my 7th house ruler, I will feel an attraction to?

And the same concept above applies to the ruler of my 4th, 5th and 8th? Making the following my "romantic" houses:

4th house ruler in 11th house = 11th house becomes romantic
5th house ruler in 3rd house = 3rd house becomes romantic
8th house in 4th/end of 4th = 4th house becomes even more important

Hmm... you might be on to something here..

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posted July 22, 2015 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StillTippin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've experienced it. Its not a bad place to have it(tho I am a Libra). U just gotta be friends first. If other aspects between the charts suggest further then it may go further. Regardless tho, it does incline you to be friends with that person. I met new ppl with this person n when we chilled it was almost always in a group setting but that's how things got intimate for us.

I have my moon there natally and my early memories of my family were get together or friends of the family always stopping by so it grew on me. That's why I don't mind the friends first thing its good to know u can relax with a person

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posted July 22, 2015 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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tilanburov
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posted July 22, 2015 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tilanburov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had this with a friend. my sun was in his 11th conjunct his moon and his moon was in my 5th conjunct my sun. also his venus conjunct my mars in my 8th. (it was in his 2nd house)

according to this synastry i guess i was supposed to be in love with him unrequitedly.
but we were just friends. synastry is a weird thing

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GypseeWind
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posted July 22, 2015 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every time my planets fall into someone's 11th (personal planets, I mean) they definitely only wanted to be friends.

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