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BlackSeraph
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posted July 25, 2015 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's one that's a head-scratcher, and I'd like some feedback on this one.

I'm also not sure if this should have gone in Asteroids or Personal Readings, I went with this due to asteroids. What's the policy on that?

There's a woman I know, and we seem to chat pretty well. Her Sun/Jupiter being on my Moon/Chiron seems pretty informative in and of itself (and of course, that's opposing my Uranus and squaring her Mars. My Libra Mars/Pluto/Venus Stellium trines her Mars). That's part of the general breakdown of this little chart.

However, when I was checking angles and asteroids, I noticed my Vertex (18° Can 30' 43", my 8th house) conjuncts her Dejanira (18° Can 44' 9", her 6th house going into 7th house. Her Descendant is at 20° Can 15' 45"). This also squares a likely last-name asteroid of hers (17° Ari 41' 56" | House 3)

I'm uncertain if this would go anywhere right now as:

A: she has a couple kids and I'm uncertain if there's a guy in the picture (Yes, a big red flag on the "I don't know if she has someone already" part. I thought she did, hence why I haven't asked her out at all. We do talk very well however.)

B: She may be changing jobs soon, and it's a restaurant that I met her and see her at that she works at.

C: I've been looking closer at a nearby city for work (60 miles one way) and depending on when I get a job down that way I'd be relocating closer to there. My car's survival may depend on it, actually.)

Ami, IQ, anyone, your thoughts?

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Randall
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posted July 25, 2015 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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Aubyanne
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posted July 25, 2015 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Seraph.

Is NESSUS anywhere involved in the configuration? How about the 8- or 5Rs?

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BlackSeraph
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posted July 25, 2015 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus placements?

My Nessus (13° Can 28' 49")
- Conjuncts her:
-- 16089 Lamb (14° Can 32' 2" | House 6)

- Opposes her:
-- 545 Messalina (14° Cap 9' 52" | House 12)
=== Named for a very promiscuous Roman queen.

- Squares Her:
-- 15845 Bambi (13° Ari 41' 44" | House 3)

- Trines her:
-- 37117 Narcissus (13° Sco 51' 26" Rx | House 10)
-- Ceres (14° Pis 1' 0" | House 2)

- Sextiles her:
-- A first name asteroid for her (12° Tau 42' 1" | House 4)

- Quincunxes her:
-- 1930 Lucifer (13° Aqu 53' 43" | House 1)
-- Mars (14° Aqu 15' 11" | House 1)


Her Nessus (9° Vir 42' 18" Rx):
- Squares my:
-- 100 Hekate (9° Gem 3' 15" | House 7)

- Trines my:
-- 2415 Ganesa (8° Tau 35' 41" | House 5)
-- Chiron (9° Tau 43' 36" Rx | House 5)
-- Moon (9° Tau 58' 20" | House 5)
-- Ceres (10° Cap 3' 6" Rx | House 2)

Quindeciles (165 degree-ish aspect, 2 deg orb representing Obsessions, etc.) my:
-- 5335 Damocles (24° Aqu 24' 54" Rx | House 3)
-- 157 Dejanira (24° Pis 37' 40" Rx | House 4)


That thing with my Nessus conjunct her Lamb and square her Bambi seems a little odd.

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posted July 26, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps now would also be a good time to point out that Venus just stationed retrograde all but directly on my Sun/Regulus (and a 2-3 degree orb conjunct my natal Saturn too), squaring my Asc/Desc line (Asc at 4° Sag 17' 51") which is also being affected by transit Saturn.

That Venus is going to cross back over her Vertex (27° Leo 36' 11") as well before this is over.

I suppose the timing of all of this could have been a bit different. Something about this seems fated somehow, whether it unfolds with something happening or with us just simply going separate ways where our lives go, this remains to be seen.

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posted July 26, 2015 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Hey, Seraph.

Is NESSUS anywhere involved in the configuration? How about the 8- or 5Rs?


This could just me being tired, but 8 or 5Rs?

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Aubyanne
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posted July 26, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, Seraph, where on earth can I acquire your list of asteroids? I'll even pay for it. I've collected quite a few myself, but yours always astound me.

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posted July 26, 2015 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackSeraph:
This could just me being tired, but 8 or 5Rs?

8R or 5R. Sorry.

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BlackSeraph
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posted July 26, 2015 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need. Just go to astro.com and go to their Free Chart selection. You can look up a multitude of chart types, and they have a HUGE list of asteroids. The text box will take up to 10 (you can enter more, but only the first 10 will show up).

You can save up to 100 charts before astro.com will ask you to delete some or pay $10/year to store up to 1000. (After it expires you just won't be able to make more until you renew. They don't purge anything that I know of, at least they didn't with me).

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posted July 26, 2015 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still not sure what you mean by 8R or 5R... do you mean 8th house/5th house or do you mean like 8th or 5th harmonics (if they even apply to synastry)?

My Nessus is in her 6th house, and her Nessus is in my 9th house. We both have Nessus in 8th house natally, interestingly enough.

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posted July 27, 2015 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackSeraph:
No need. Just go to astro.com and go to their Free Chart selection. You can look up a multitude of chart types, and they have a HUGE list of asteroids. The text box will take up to 10 (you can enter more, but only the first 10 will show up).

You can save up to 100 charts before astro.com will ask you to delete some or pay $10/year to store up to 1000. (After it expires you just won't be able to make more until you renew. They don't purge anything that I know of, at least they didn't with me).


How do you think I've gotten most of mine?

And, sorry for the confusion. I use a lot of shorthand.

8H = 8th House
8R = ruler of the 8H

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BlackSeraph
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posted July 27, 2015 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I see. Well, my 8th house ruler is the Moon (8th house Cancer), and hers is her Sun (8th house cusp Leo).

Her 8th house ruler conjuncts my 8th house ruler. Her Nessus then trines my 8th house ruler, one of the soft aspects.

My asteroid Nemesis, on the other hand, does conjunct one of her first-name asteroids in her chart, but also trines a likely last-name asteroid in her chart too. My Nemesis also squares my last-name asteroid in her chart.

To make it a little clearer:

My 128 Nemesis (18° Leo 58' 9")
- Conjuncts her:
-- One of her First Name asteroids (18° Leo 38' 18" | House 7)

- Opposes her:
-- 4341 Poseidon (18° Aqu 2' 42" | House 1)
-- 13897 Vesuvius (18° Aqu 29' 57" | House 1)
-- 131313 2001 FO171 (18° Aqu 53' 6" | House 1)
=== I forget what 131313 represents, there was a thread in Asteroid Astrology about it I think.

- Squares her:
-- Juno (17° Tau 29' 57" | House 4)
-- My last-name asteroid (18° Tau 34' 52" | House 4)
-- 2818 Juvenalis (18° Sco 3' 24" Rx | House 10)

- Sesquiquadrates her:
-- 4386 Lust (2° Ari 56' 44" | House 2)
-- 564 Dudu (3° Ari 51' 6" | House 3)
-- 4464 Vulcano (4° Ari 9' 50" | House 3)

Trines her:
-- Her closest-to-last-name asteroid (17° Ari 41' 56" | House 3)
-- 666 Desdemona (17° Ari 57' 8" | House 3)

Her 128 Nemesis (5° Vir 43' 2")
- Conjuncts my:
-- 1589 Fanatica (5° Vir 21' 55" | House 9)

- Opposes my:
-- 9951 Tyrannosaurus (5° Pis 20' 38" Rx | House 3)
-- 3412 Kafka (7° Pis 0' 8" Rx | House 3)

- Squares my:
-- Descendant (4° Gem 17' 51" | House 7)
-- 5881 Akashi (6° Gem 33' 38" | House 7)
-- Ascendant (4° Sag 17' 51" | House 1)
-- 6630 Skepticus (4° Sag 31' 13" | House 1)
-- 4713 Steel (4° Sag 32' 6" | House 1)
-- 1198 Atlantis (6° Sag 35' 17" | House 1)
-- Pallas (7° Sag 8' 59" | House 1)


- Trines my:
-- 90377 Sedna (5° Tau 44' 17" Rx | House 5)
-- 4955 Gold (5° Cap 46' 11" SD | House 1)

Sextiles my:
-- 93 Minerva (5° Can 9' 52" | House 7)
-- 55 Pandora (5° Can 54' 44" | House 7)
-- 2062 Aten (6° Can 36' 29" | House 8)
-- 4227 Kaali (6° Can 50' 58" | House 8)

- Quincunxes my:
-- 120 Lachesis (6° Aqu 55' 14" Rx | House 2)
-- My strongest first-name asteroid (7° Aqu 4' 25" Rx | House 2)

There were more asteroids but I'm probably already overanalyzing this as it is. Only real way to tell is to see what unfolds.

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posted July 31, 2015 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more asteroids I look up, the more interesting this gets.

My Dejanira (24° Pis 37' 40" Rx 4th house)
- Conjuncts her:
-- 5335 Damocles (23° Pis 20' 0" | House 2)

- Opposition her:
-- Moon (24° Vir 43' 17" | House 8)

- Squares her:
-- Chiron (25° Gem 22' 46" | House 5)
-- 2063 Bacchus (25° Gem 24' 32" | House 5)
-- 829 Academia (25° Gem 35' 43" | House 6)
-- 222222 2000 FK15 (25° Gem 46' 56" | House 6)
-- 5325 Silver (26° Sag 5' 8" | House 12)

Also found that my 1912 Anubis (29° Lib 22' 12" House 11) conjuncts her 1912 Anubis (29° Lib 47' 46" Rx | House 9). Found that interesting.

And, after looking up another asteroid in hers...

Seems my Nessus (updating this):
- Conjuncts her:
-- *Sirius (13° Can 55' 5" | House 6)
-- 18243 Gunn (14° Can 16' 52" | House 6)
-- 16089 Lamb (14° Can 32' 2" | House 6)

- Oppositions her:
-- 545 Messalina (14° Cap 9' 52" | House 12)

- Squares her:
-- 15845 Bambi (13° Ari 41' 44" | House 3)
-- 1896 Beer (14° Lib 44' 38" Rx | House 9)

- Trines her:
-- 37117 Narcissus (13° Sco 51' 26" Rx | House 10)
-- 6581 Sobers (12° Pis 3' 22" | House 2)
-- Ceres (14° Pis 1' 0" | House 2)

Hmm...

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posted August 01, 2015 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And... asked her if she wanted to get coffee sometime.

She's got a guy.

But "she'd be willing to go as a friend if she ever can get away from her kids."

At least I asked. I'd be ok with her suggestion but I'm not going to count on it.

My roommate says she's feeling sorry for me, though he admits to being "clueless" himself. He's never met her. His Saturn conjunct my Sun if that matters.

I'd say more but this is risking turning this thread into a relationship or whatever advice column. Transit moon opposed my natal Mercury (RX) and transit Jupiter is transiting her Vertex and transit Saturn retro is squaring her Vertex and I think transit Dejanira may be within a degree or two of her Antivertex.

At least I'm nipping this in the bud now before it becomes the cluster(censored) that other pursuits of mine have become.

Ok I'm a little bummed. I'll recover.

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