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Topic: Sun and Moon connections in synastry
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Adriana
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posted January 25, 2011 05:15 PM
  
Have you come across couples in happy, long term relationships that don't have any nice Sun and Moon aspects (or at least in compatible signs) at all?I know that you need to look at the entire chart etc, but in every long term relationship I've seen, it's been at least one or two good aspects, or at least that person A has their Sun or Moon in compatible sign with the other Sun or Moon. And all synastry books and sites always talk about how important this is.. What do you think would be "needed" to counteract a lack of good Sun and Moon connections? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted January 25, 2011 05:22 PM
1.Moon/ Venus Conj,trine,sextile
2.Sun/Venus Conj,trine,sextile
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blugrey
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posted January 25, 2011 07:09 PM
Uh.... they aren't very happy... but they got engaged after dating for 1 month and got married one month after that and they've been together for almost 23 years now. lolDad:
Leo Sun
Sag Moon Mom:
Pisces Sun
Virgo Moon
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staborgi
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posted January 25, 2011 09:28 PM
tons. I think the Sun/Moon thing is one of those exalted myths of astrology that got touted up to where the point is kind of mute. I've had this aspect with people and despite getting along GREAT, was not romantically interested in them in the least! It's a wonderful aspect to experience but I don't think it guarantees or even signifies a relationship being long lasting. I think you need to look to the natal to see what someone is looking for in a relationship before jumping to seeing if they hit certain synastry "check points" which may not hold much weight on a personal level in the end! What I'm finding lately is contacts to angles and angle rulers (especially by planets that rule an angle in the other chart) are great indicators of a deep, potentially long lasting relationship. Also angle rulers to angle rulers and ties from the nodes to angles. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 25, 2011 09:35 PM
I think Sun/Moon will give you an emotional connection, a heart connection.
This would be true of whatever relationship had this---friend etc
A romantic connection would be from other aspects such as Pluto.------------------
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GrlyGirl20
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posted January 25, 2011 09:38 PM
I COMPLETELY agree that this aspect is actually highly touted but not really so great in terms of romance...this aspect I have seen works its best in friendships. In fact I happen to think (and have seen in MANY cases where Moon sign connections are ALMOST always needed irregardless of Sun/Moon). Plus I think the biggie as I have seen in others that can pretty much knock out Sun/Moon is Asc/Moon or Moon-Moon. I'd say for friendship having Sun/Moon is great...but at the end of the day for two people to TRULY connect you need Moon-Moon in order to truly feel at home and see each other as more than just something to feed your ego (close ties to Moon-Moon would be Moon-angles or something similar).An example is I have a VERY close conjunction of my Moon to a Cap Sun (the Conjunction is less than one degree). However his Moon is in Aries...which is Square my Moon. We clash in very big ways despite the fact that my Moon has an Opposition to Mars, but things don't feel quite as comfy and nice as they do with Virgo and Taurus (or even Water Moons) no matter what their Sun is. IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat
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posted January 25, 2011 09:53 PM
My bf and I have Sun conjunct Sun, but Moon square Moon as well...we have a great relationship...although in Draconic we do have Moon conjunct Moon...My son and his gf of 9 years have Moon conjunct Moon, and their relationship can be unstable from time to time, although they love each other deeply...my youngest and his gf of 2 years have Sun sextile Sun and Moon, and a Quincunx of Moon and Moon...they have an amazing relationship...I just think their is so much more to good synastry than just those aspects...like staborgi said...angles...i have also found tight aspects to Nodes, Vertex, and ASC/DESC as well...those aspects we all have in our synastry's....just the opinion of one who knows nothing...lol  Kat ------------------
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blonderiverkat
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posted January 25, 2011 09:57 PM
Adriana...also look at Asteroids and such...that is where I really found patterns within good and lasting relationships, along with angles, nodes, ASC, and Vertex...
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soulful122
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posted January 25, 2011 10:52 PM
That's true Staborgi, it alone doesn't indicate romance (glad I looked at your name, I was about to type Starborgi lol). But Sun/Moon combined with other good aspects can be so damn grrrreaat. With the last guy I have..Moon conj Sun (we get along, I always have his back, no matter what.) Sun trine Sun (really good friends, never get sick of each others company lol) Merc trine Sun (I get what he means/vise versa) Moon trine Neptune (emotional kindness/unconditional support) Merc conj Neptune (sometimes telepathic communications, he's called/texted me when I was thinking of him, usually saying something I was thinking of saying..) Venus conj Neptune (out of sign conj, not as strong but still romantic feelings, I'm accepting of him as he is.) Venus sextile Pluto (not sure how to explain this one, it adds a little subtle, obsessive passion..) Mars trine Venus (sexual compatibility) Mars conj AC (TA-DOW angle contact lol, plus Mars is ruler of my 7th) AC conj Uranus (romance.. excitement.. Uranus is ruler of his 5th) -A little conflict so it won't get stale or boring- ↓ lol Pluto square Sun
Uranus square Moon
Venus quincunx Venus
Mars quincunx Moon Composite Sun conjs my Sun/Moon mp
Composite Moon conjs his Sun/Moon mp Lasted about 4 years, still friends.
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Lonake
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posted January 25, 2011 11:06 PM
What do you guys think about out of sign sun/moon conjunctions? Say, up to 5 degrees?
I think they're valid there's just an extra dynamic at work..IP: Logged |
letram
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posted January 26, 2011 01:10 AM
i think its objectively a great aspect between any two people. it isn't romantic, but it enhances co-operation and is a very intimate close connection.what do relationships need to be romantic? Venus aspects to other planets or points imo.
in my year long relationship so far, we have Sun opposite Sun (i dig this aspect for relationship, you are different in an exciting way but relate in aims).
our moons are square by sign (mine aries, hers capricorn) but, my moon makes very tight square to saturn(1orb) i have a cappy-moon energy for sure, i know this because iv read compatibility description for aries moon and capricorn moon, and i could relate to feeling like a cappy moon would about any aries placement. if we consider depositors, her moon depositor conjunts mars, and mine trines saturn, and both our moon depositors are in earth signs. her venus is in aries which conjuncts my moon so relation is made. her moon is at the very end of capricorn (29th degree) mine is very early aries, so the square aspect is far apart.
our aspects -
Venus Opposite Venus
Sun Opposite Sun
Moon Conjunct Venus
Moon Trine Venus
Venus trine asc
Saturn & Neptune conjunct DSC we have hard saturn aspects - Venus Square Saturn DW (both ways) this has been our biggest struggles (insecurities) more so than anything else. i think the natal charts decide what we want and desire romanticaly. you see, Moon-Sun is FAMILIARITY, but for someone like me, i hav AQuarius DSC (a different partner, someone different to me) and Venus square uranus.. these placements seek anything but Familiarity. of course, common ground is desired and needed in relationships. somepeople, natal based perhaps, want someone who is much like themself in relation, someone like me is looking for someone different. yet shares common ground. Sun oppose Sun is a great aspect i think for someone looking for common ground yet someone who isnt quite like themself. IP: Logged |
letram
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posted January 26, 2011 01:11 AM
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VenusDiSirius
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posted January 26, 2011 01:33 AM
 letram
I found that with sun/moon connections,girl(especially if moon) is amazingly able to say why she loves boy;why he is good for her,etc...
I don't think sun/moon is overrated.IP: Logged |
Cynnared
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posted January 26, 2011 04:27 AM
My man has an aries moon conj my sun in aries. Some days it's like deja vu and we're on the same page. He is an Aquarian Sun and I have a cancer moon. If I went with the orb of 15 degrees then there would be a Sun-Moon opposition. But luckily there isn't. His Venus in Saggy sits right on my ascendant and my Sun sits in his 7th house. Aries on the 7th really describes me... We have a few more challenging aspects like My Saturn Square his Sun. But his Saturn trines my mars.... The Sun - Moon connection is neat. Sometimes I feel a deep connection with Sun in Cancer folks as well. My late Maternal Grandfather was Sun in Cancer with a Cappy moon conjunct my Mars in Cappy. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 26, 2011 08:48 AM
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I found that with sun/moon connections,girl(especially if moon) is amazingly able to say why she loves boy;why he is good for her,etc...
I don't think sun/moon is overrated.
I agree with this. Sun/Moon is the most solid foundation upon which to build a relationship. I believe Sun/Moon, Moon/Moon, & Asc/Moon conjunctions show up often in long term relationships. IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted January 26, 2011 04:20 PM
I have a Moon conj Moon and a DW with Sun trine Venus... god, I can't get enough of the Moon conj Moon. I could be having the worst day ever and he just has to hug me and it all melts away. He just feels like home. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 26, 2011 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by racole12:
I have a Moon conj Moon and a DW with Sun trine Venus... god, I can't get enough of the Moon conj Moon. I could be having the worst day ever and he just has to hug me and it all melts away. He just feels like home.
That's the thing tho, most women love that feeling but what about the men, the whole cuddling/at home feeling. IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted January 26, 2011 05:36 PM
What he tells me it allows him to be very intimate with me on any level. There are times when I say/do the right thing at the exact right moment that allows him to feel that closeness. IP: Logged |
scrappydog
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posted January 26, 2011 10:49 PM
I have had the sun moon conjunction in three relationships.
The first was an instant romance that blossomed very quickly and went very wrong just as quickly, the whole thing lasted like 1 month. The conjunction was fairly wide my moon in cappy conj his sun in cappy like 7 deg. BUT my libra sun pluto conj squared his cappy sun SO...
I hate sun square sun like that, there is such an incompatability that can be so subtle you cant quite define or explain it, it is just there and never goes away. But there is a direct enemity that negative sun pluto aspects can create between people and it definately did between us.
The second was a man I again felt an instant connection between us and we got along fantastically! His moon in libra conj my sun pluto in libra, it was a one sided attraction he wanted me and I wanted to be best friends forever lol, it didn't last either as he finally got too frustrated and the friendship crumbled. Lots of understanding and harmony while it lasted though, that conj in libra gave lots of close, clingy togetherness. I'll wipe your tears if you'll rub my back kinda thing. But I was emotionally attracted and not physically. Funny that I was the sun in that relationship, maybe I had the upper hand in it???
Third was my current Major love relationship, which has been the second most important relationship of my life. Not second in greatness, just that the other major guy came first, lol. His cappy sun conj my cappy moon 0 deg. Instant connection, very strong feeling of attraction. Though we both met suddenly and unexpectedly(venus conj uranus 0 deg)neither one of us could leave the other one for a second sinse the Day we met, even when we wanted to! Things got very close very quick. We read eachothers minds constantly! Very deep soul connection, LOTS of karma... He calls me mama and I call him daddy! Nothing in the world like sun/moon AND sun/saturn in synastry!
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mir
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posted January 27, 2011 08:06 AM
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But I was emotionally attracted and not physically. Funny that I was the sun in that relationship, maybe I had the upper hand in it???
Yes! Same song here...
Lots of Leo-Moons (conj. my Sun) and for me it was always and only emotional attraction - but.. my longest friendships!
When I'm the MOON I'm always (a bit?) afraid of being used/suspicious etc.. because well, besides my Scorp-Moon and the fact that I *feel-something-more* I'am mainly used to the 'ease' of having the upper-hand with all those Leo-Moons. It seems I HAVE to be the Moon (in Sun/Moon synastry) and I HAVE to be Mars (in Venus/Mars synastry) when it comes to love relationships..
probably due to my Moon/Mars square natally. IP: Logged |
soulful122
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posted January 27, 2011 11:24 AM
I think so Lonake.. I can feel the uncomfortable squares in synastry to my Moon up to 5-6°. ------------------
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racole12
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posted January 27, 2011 11:08 PM
I just looked for at the few Sun/Moon conjunctions I have in my life... they all are just a friendly/emotional connection. No romance involved but they have been the some of the closest friends I have ever had. IP: Logged |
featherlightly
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posted January 28, 2011 02:34 AM
I think the outcome of sun/moon connections in synastry (especially the conjunction) really depend on what's going on in the natal. I've been mostly UN-attracted to people whose sun conjuncts my moon, since the only aspects my moon makes are a square to Mercury and opposition to Pluto (so their sun would trigger some discomfort). And moon conjunctions to my sun are also not very enticing in terms of romance... only as friends.I've looked at hundreds of synastry charts in the past 10 or so years, and the pattern that sticks out more to me than sun-moon connections are angle connections. Particularly an alignment of one person's AC/DC axis with the other person's AC/DC or IC/MC axis, but also personal planets (especially angle rulers) conjuncting the other person's angles. I see this way more than any consistent sun-moon interactions. The angles are like magnetic poles. And I've seen some relationships survive where the only significant thing is the angle alignment -- no classic sun/moon, Mars/Venus, etc. IP: Logged |
NeptuneIllusion
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posted January 28, 2011 04:47 PM
My fiance and I have sun/moon conjunction and our relationship very comfortable. We also have a moon/venus trine and his Venus conjuncts my MC. We don't have any Venus/Mars connections, though.. which supposedly shows physical compatibility. We are both VERY attracted to each other, and have a ton of sexual compatibility. So sometimes wonder if synastry is kinda..well..bunk. Heh. I feel more attracted to him than I have with people that I have mars/venus aspects with! The synastry thing kinda bugs me because it doesn't seem to line up with how I feel at all. It seems silly to look at planetary positions to tell you how you feel about another person. Your feelings should already be obvious. I am sorry for ragging on the whole synastry thing, because I have studied it a lot myself and it does make sense sometimes, but a lot of the time it just doesn't seem to hit the mark. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted January 28, 2011 05:35 PM
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The synastry thing kinda bugs me because it doesn't seem to line up with how I feel at all. It seems silly to look at planetary positions to tell you how you feel about another person. Your feelings should already be obvious.
Lately I've been finding it more useful to look carefully at each natal chart, then imagine how those two individuals might interact depending on their feelings, than to look at synastry. Once you do get to the synastry, cookbook/cookie-cutter interpretations don't work anyway...You have to understand the ROLE of each planet in the natal and look at interactions and dynamics between chart rulers and house rulers. The Moon will have a very different role in one chart than the next, depending on these factors. My friends are a close couple together for 10+ years...no Sun-Moon contacts. He's Scorp/Sag Moon, she's Gemini/Virgo Moon, everything out of orb between them. quote:
I am sorry for ragging on the whole synastry thing, because I have studied it a lot myself and it does make sense sometimes, but a lot of the time it just doesn't seem to hit the mark.
Yeah, I agree. IP: Logged |
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