posted July 31, 2015 09:41 AM            

I feel like it manifests as a love for my direction and destiny, a deep resonance with my truest inner needs and the passions informed by my life path, a resonance borne of love.

With the South Node conjunct Amor I would think it would manifest similarly, but the love should be for the person's existing traits; there would be a lot of forgiveness and forbearance with this aspect, and a really deep understanding and appreciation of the person, warts and all...

posted July 31, 2015 12:14 PM            

NNODE
• dharmic
• soul evolution
• new directions
• to be developed
• will increase over the lifeline

SNODE
• karmic
• experience (from other lifelines)
• familiar and old feeling
• overdeveloped
• will decrease over the lifeline

SNODE tends to release a lot in a burst, I believe. There is karma involved, and it needs resolution. It's also skills and traits which are outliving their usefulness in the association. But expect some to be used in one major final way before dissipating and moving on.

posted July 31, 2015 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I'm also curious about this one.. my partner's Amor is retrograde, at 14'21'32 Pisces, and my NN is at 11'9'51 Pisces...

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Is it also parallel? That orb of 3°12 is pretty wide. If you feel it, what do you think is propelling it forward? Some asteroids, we've found, can be activated beyond 3°00, but they're extremely dependent upon other factors, and it's typically with a luminary.

Remember with the NODES, it's even tighter.

Take my NNODE-KARMA with my boyfriend, for example. It's 3°30, for crying out loud! But how do I feel that? Further, how is it so resonant with my KARMA conjunct his SNODE (0°)?

It's also parallel. Outside of the resonance of SNODE/KARMA - KARMA/NNODE, the parallel activates an otherwise just-outside-of-orb aspect to where it operates like a weak conjunction.

Like the third cup of tea from a single bag. Diluted, but still a cup of tea. It won't knock you over; it's subtle, and potentially calming, soothing. 'Just there enough' to be what it is without overwhelming.

So, check for parallels when the orb is between 1°-1°30 out of orb. For asteroids-to-calculated points, that's about 3°00-4°00. For asteroids-to-asteroids, 3°15-4°25, and asteroids-to-planets, 3°30-4°30. For lights, I use a bit of moiety; so you can go 3°40-5°00, and see where things end up.

But ONLY IF THERE'S A PARALLEL!

posted July 31, 2015 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I've compiled a few things regarding the two polarities from my experiences and research over time:

NNODE
• dharmic
• soul evolution
• new directions
• to be developed
• will increase over the lifeline

SNODE
• karmic
• experience (from other lifelines)
• familiar and old feeling
• overdeveloped
• will decrease over the lifeline

SNODE tends to release a lot in a burst, I believe. There is karma involved, and it needs resolution. It's also skills and traits which are outliving their usefulness in the association. But expect some to be used in one major final way before dissipating and moving on.

The NNODE is where you need to be heading now. It's what's to be developed here in the present. It's what we have to acquire and develop in order to reach our soul's deepest goals.

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thanks... so does that mean that we had amor in the past life and it was a skill/trait that we needed, and because it is now on the north node, it is something we will continue into the next life?

posted July 31, 2015 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Also I thought it was closer than 3°12? If one is at 11°9 and one is at 14°2--wouldn't it be 2°3 ? *learning math*

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I hate maths, too. I love my calculator; I freely admit it. I learnt how to calculate natals back in the '90s. I can use calculators now!

So, look at it this way:

11° PIS '09 - 12° PIS '09 = 1°00 orb
12° PIS '09 - 13° PIS '09 = 2°00 orb
13° PIS '09 - 14° PIS '09 = 3°00 orb

Then we take the minutes:

'09 - '21 = -'12, but since all we're doing is adding the product ('12') to the orb product (3°), we get 3°12.

I honestly used a calculator, but since it's not set automatically to account for increments of 60, I lay it out manually that way, just to check its validity.

posted July 31, 2015 06:21 PM            

in synastry, his amor conjuncts my north node and my amor conjuncts his south node.

posted July 31, 2015 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
thanks... so does that mean that we had amor in the past life and it was a skill/trait that we needed, and because it is now on the north node, it is something we will continue into the next life?

my draconic chart with this person in synastry was hitting more important conjunctions than my current. I think this is a person I will continue to meet in the next life.

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The interesting thing is the balance. We might even say it's like a favour returned. The concept and experience of unconditional love (AMOR) was something he liked learnt from you, or through you, in another lifeline (SNODE). Meanwhile, here, he is able to help you to develop that very same thing (NNODE) which could prove very important to your own overall soul's evolution.

This is why I'm saying it might be a 'favour returned'; not necessarily a debt owed -- but we can say that in regards to SNODE aspects -- namely, conjunctions. That the SNODE 'owes' the nature of the planet or point it's conjunct.

That's intriguing, I think; the fact that he's to help you cultivate unconditional love in order to help you achieve your soul's greatest evolution (your NNODE to his AMOR), and you 'owe' him unconditional love (your AMOR to his SNODE).

posted August 04, 2015 04:42 PM            

my synastry with him and composite does not point to soulmate, but here is this man that I feel incredibly at peace with.

in fact, on our very first date, I made a joke about one of my "obnoxious" habits, as a way to apologize for my being inconvenient, and he just looked at me, smiled, and said "own it, it's not obnoxious." So in one meeting, he has already begun teaching me to love myself unconditionally.

posted August 04, 2015 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
definitely interesting.

my synastry with him and composite does not point to soulmate, but here is this man that I feel incredibly at peace with.

in fact, on our very first date, I made a joke about one of my "obnoxious" habits, as a way to apologize for my being inconvenient, and he just looked at me, smiled, and said "own it, it's not obnoxious." So in one meeting, he has already begun teaching me to love myself unconditionally.

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posted August 04, 2015 06:22 PM            

but maybe I am feeling unsure bcs my last relationship was sooooo intense. i knew without a doubt my last guy was a soulmate, though I worry he is karmic.

posted August 05, 2015 06:09 AM            

but I feel amor is more platonic, less romantic love. Valentine is more romantic, and eros related itself. Do you and your girlfriend have a lot of passion?

posted August 05, 2015 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
Angel- isn't valentine conjunct eros supposed to be pretty big? I think I remember reading that is a wonderful aspect to share!

but I feel amor is more platonic, less romantic love. Valentine is more romantic, and eros related itself. Do you and your girlfriend have a lot of passion?

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posted August 05, 2015 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I just read something from IQ about eros conjunct valentine, but I can't remember what thread it was from! I just remember thinking I would love to experience that aspect.

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posted August 05, 2015 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I just read something from IQ about eros conjunct valentine, but I can't remember what thread it was from! I just remember thinking I would love to experience that aspect.

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posted August 06, 2015 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's correct, Mereiposa. So long as you keep it within 1°00 orb, you're good.

Contraparallels are interesting. I'll be back with more information, as they differ a bit from the parallel. But that's a nice resonance: the NNODE/AMOR-AMOR/SNODE.

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I know about the orb with parallels, but what about when there is a Valentine parallel NN 26' one way and then NN to Valentine at a 1.06 orb? It's trying for a DW but not quite within the degree one way around. Oh, my slacking Valentine, thou doth fail me in loving someone enough, when they bothered to wuv both my NN and my DSC in parallels? Oh, wait, I propped for my Eros 12" parallel his NN instead? Weeell, I guess it'll do. ;P Also Vertex-NN, but Eros primarily.

posted August 06, 2015 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
eros is conjunct my BML, jupiter, and sun- all in the 8th house in cancer. I love eros. It figures prominently in my relationships, and valentine as a true love aspect... it just seems like it's calling me.

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