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LexusVirgo
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posted August 06, 2015 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would a guy Like a woman who has neptune trine his venus and pluto sextile his venus?

Or a woman whose mars conjunct his venus but saturn squares his venus.

I think he'd pick the first one

1st woman aspects to his venus
Venus trine neptune
Venus sextile pluto
2nd woman

Venus conjunct mars
Venus square saturn

Yes all aspects are under 3 degrees

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posted August 06, 2015 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally think he'd pick the second one, just speculating on the limited info,
Because he'd feel that conjunction harder than trines and sextiles. Especially that particular conjunction.

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posted August 06, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe neither. you have to look at his natal chart to see what his own venus is doing. it might mean zilch to him if his venus is in the 12th, unaspected, opposed to other major planets, etc.

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posted August 06, 2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
maybe neither. you have to look at his natal chart to see what his own venus is doing. it might mean zilch to him if his venus is in the 12th, unaspected, opposed to other major planets, etc.

An unaspected planet activated by synastry I am sure is meaningful and Venus in the 12th is exalted .

That been said I would go for the second person just based on information given bc the first one only mentions generational aspects involving soft aspects. They are nice aspects but we need more to be going on in that synastry.

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posted August 06, 2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I put in under 3degrees and these are the two aspects I got for the first one.

It's Venus sextile Pluto and Venus trine Neptune.

I thought he would like the first one because Venus square Saturn is hate ate first sight from what I read and blocking of emotion so I thought that would block the Venus conjunction Mars

He has in natal Venus conjunction Mars
Venus trine Neptune and Venus sextile Pluto , Venus square moon also. His Venus is also rx

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posted August 06, 2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:

I thought he would like the first one because Venus square Saturn is hate ate first sight from what I read and blocking of emotion so I thought that would block the Venus conjunction Mars


No, it would make it possibly difficult, but the venus-Mars would still be there. Maybe a push-pull scenario, where there is a lot of attraction, but at the same time it comes with the typical Saturn-problems (insecurity, one pushing too much, unbalanced attractions, not always completely mutual or fearing it might not be mutual, trying to control the attraction etc.)


but of cours eit depends on the people nvolved.

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posted August 06, 2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
They are nice aspects but we need more to be going on in that synastry.

Exactly.

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posted August 06, 2015 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, it would make it possibly difficult, but the venus-Mars would still be there. Maybe a push-pull scenario, where there is a lot of attraction, but at the same time it comes with the typical Saturn-problems (insecurity, one pushing too much, unbalanced attractions, not always completely mutual or fearing it might not be mutual, trying to control the attraction etc.)


but of cours eit depends on the people nvolved.


Hahaha that explains to the tea the issues I was having with my last crush. It was obvious he was attracted to me, I could feel it, but then a switch was turned off which I understand to some extent why,that composite apropos conjunct Valentine was draining me and making me unfocused and we both value a lot our careers and been able to stay focused and engaged. His saturn-valentine conjuncts my psyche and square my Venus and Mars. Composite amor conjuncts c-chiron exact and c-saturn conjuncts c-tnp-cupido. In synastry we also have priapus conjunct amor.


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posted August 06, 2015 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Him - 1st girl

Sun sextile venus
Sun square jupiter
Moon opp Uranus
Mercury sextile Mars
Venus trine Neptune
Venus sextile Pluto
Mars trine Neptune
Mars sextile Pluto
Jupiter conjunction Uranus
Saturn square Venus
Pluto square Venus
Saturn sextile Jupiter
All aspects under 4 degrees don't know birth times just dates.

Him-2nd girl
Sun sextile venus
Sun square Neptune
Moon square sun
Mercury square Uranus
Venus conjunction Mars
Venus square saturn
Mars trine Neptune
Mars sextile Pluto
Jupiter square sun
Jupiter trine Venus
Jupiter sextile Jupiter
Saturn square Venus
Uranus square sun
Uranus trine Venus
Uranus sextile Jupiter
Neptune trine mars

Orbs under 3 degrees also

The second synastry just had too many squares I think he'd go for the first one


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posted August 06, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It actually depends on his natal chart and his current situation (where is at mentally at the moment).

You`d be suprised how often people actually go for those people they share the most dynamic (aka squares) aspects with.

But it depends on the natals as I said.

If you`re an intense person, a synastry made of all trines and sextiles would possibly not even appear on your radar!
Otherwise if you crave peace and harmony, a trine-sextile synastry might feel just right to you.

Take for example my parents, so many squares and oppositions

MC square Venus
MC square Mars
NN square ASC
NN opposite Saturn
NN square Uranus
Moon opposite Sun
Sun square Sun
Venus square Mercury
Mars square ASC
Mars opposite Jupiter
Mars conjunct Saturn
Mars square Uranus
Mercury opposite Uranus
Mercury square Neptune
Jupiter square Mercury
Uranus square Moon
Pluto square mercury


While their trines and sextiles?
Vertex trine Sun
Sun sextile Jupiter
Sun trine Saturn
Mercury trine Venus
Mercury trine Mars
Uranus trine Sun

yes they do have some nice harmonious aspects, but if you compare both columns it`s easy to see that theirs is a rather dynamic synastry.

In fact I ran through the solar fire analysis for them

And they have

22% more conjunctions (than likely)
17% more squares (than expected)


24% less sextiles (than likely)
22% less trines (than likely)

In the case of my best friend and her husband

56% more conjunctions than likely
33% more squares than likely

22% less trines than likely
17% less sextiles than likely


In both relationships each individual has quite some dynamic aspects to personal planets though (including conjunctions), I guess that is why.


Also it is the conjunctions, oppositions and squares that may us take notice and pay attentiont o someone, not the trine and sextiles. Those usually are experienced as feel-good-aspects, when AFTER the initial attention you realize that you are so nice and harmonious together (that is there big merit btw, they can provide the comfort zone in a relationship).


my brother and his girlfriend have a more balanced synastry in this regard, they have many aspects, so that each aspect-kind is present more than likely

Sextile 39% more
conjunction 33% more
square 28%
opposition 22%
trine 6%


another friend of mine and her man of 10 years

11% more squares and oppositions than likely

28% less trines than likely
17% less sextiles than likely


They also have dynamic charts (hers having Sun-Saturn-conjunction on the MC, opposing Mars and squaring neptune; his having a Sun-Uranus-conjunction square Mars and Mercury-Pluto-conjunction square ASC)

So, no, we cannot conclude that the more trines and sextiles, the more likely it is two people will have a relationshp with each other.


While from the examples I presented it seems actually more likely with a dynamic synastry (conj, opp. square), I do not want to say this is a rule.
I just haven`t really seen the other case, BUT that might be because those are people I know, and like them I have a bit of a dynamic chart; though in my case it is a bit of a conjunction-sextile-chart with some squares strewn in. But likes attract likes, so I might simply just get closer to people with a similiar aspect-ratio.


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posted August 06, 2015 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In his natal he has
Sun trine moon
Sun sextile Jupiter
Sun sextile uranus
Sun square neptune
Moon square venus
Moon square mars
Moon opp Jupiter
Moon opp uranus
Moon conj chiron I think this means women will cause him pain

Mercury square neptune
Mercury sqaure nn
Venus conj mars
Venus trine neptune
Venus sextile pluto

Venus square chiron

Mars square Jupiter
Mars sextile saturn
Mars square uranus
Mars trine neptune
Mars sextile pluto
Jupiterconj uranus
Jupiter opp chiron

He has sun in libra
Moon gem
Merc virgo
Venus leo
Mars leo
Jup sag
Sat sco
Uranus sag
Neptune sag
Pluto sco


Not sure of houses tho don't have birth time

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posted August 06, 2015 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad we cannot find out which house his Moon rules. On first glance however I`d say he need at least a little bit dynamic in his relationships, because of this:


Moon square Venus
Moon square Mars
Moon opposite Jupiter
Moon opposite Uranus
Venus conjunct Mars
Mars square Jupiter
Mars square Uranus
Jupiter conjunct Uranus

and on top of that

Chiron opp Jupiter and square Venus

Are the orbs very wide?
BTW if the birthtime is not known Moon is floating as well. Usually we can only be sure aobut aspects being present, if they are at about 1 degree orb at most, if using a Noon-time for his bifthtime (cause then we know the Moon-aspects can only vary about 6 degrees at most).
All other moon aspects may be there or not, we cannot tell.

However let`s say you got his Moon right, then it seems he has a T-square of Moon to Jupiter-Uranus which points at Venus-Mars (why is URanus not square Mars, how big are the orbs?)

however Moon-Venus-Mars on its own needs and seeks emotional excitement, all the more with Venus-Mars in Leo.
and then it gets expanded by Jupiter, and stimulated (possibly overstimulated) by Uranus as well.

I donīt think a predominantly trine-sextile relationshp would be fulfilling for his needs in the long run (though some trines and sextiles might be nice and soothing).

I also think that he needs someone with a natal that reflects the dynamic of his Venus-Mars in Leo, someone with a Leo-Sun vibe, or strong mars-Aries. who will also have Jupiter-Uranus-signature.
Some sort of mix of Leo-Aries-Sagittarius-Aquarius. Or alternatives aspects like Sun, Moon or Venus conjunct Uranus or Jupiter. Or something of that sort. Could also be angular Mars, Jupiter, Uranus or Sun.

However having said that I doubt that he really would seek Saturn-squares to his Venus-Mars.
As you can see it is all about the Sun, Jupiter, Uranus vbe for him and Leo of course and Mars on his Venus (the symbol of what kind of woman he seeks, very broadly speaking), this is even intensified with his other female symbol, the Moon also tying into this
However nothing could be further apart from Saturn-sybmolism than his natal Venus-Mars-Sun(Leo)-Jupiter-uranus make up.

He probably would feel suffocated with too much Saturn.

There are two possible exceptions:

1. SAturn plays a role as relationshp planet for him, being conjunct DESC for example, or in 5th house or conjunct a ruler of these houses etc.

2. he seeks out the mature responsibility of Saturn as counterbalance to his more "showy" sparkly, but also unsettled Venus-Mars-conjunction (wlel Leo CAN settle, but to his terms. ).

Still I suspect that this would not work out forever, as the natal make up seems to have the habit to seek out something that is similiar or complementary. And Saturn is just too different.

He might give it a shot though with girl 2 because of the more dynamic aspects he shares with her especially including the Venus-Mars conjunction and the Sun-Uranus-square (which complements his Moon-Uranus).

But about the Saturn? WEll it might be difficult in the long run, and they would have to work hard on the relationship to keep it afloat, and I am not sure how much effort a Venus-Jupiter, Venus-Uranus, Mars-Jupiter, Mars-Uranus man really wants to put into it. How much patience will he have?

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posted August 06, 2015 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the first case the Moon-uranus-opposition could be a draw, and the Saturn-Pluto to his Venus, well he is a Leo-Mars, he likes a challenge, But not sure how wel this will work in the long run. Too different from what he really seeks.
UNLESS Saturn - Pluto is strong in his relationship profile (houses) OR the first girl matches his relationshp-profile (strong Jupiter, Mars, uranus, Sun or SAgittarius, Aries, Leo, Aquarisu)

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posted August 06, 2015 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks

The first girls venus is square his saturn pluto I thought

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