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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 13, 2015 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will show you the importance the relationship holds for each person, how they find themselves in it, what the impact of the relationship is, how they contribute to the relationship, what they bring to the table.

It also shows what kind of relationship this is, for each person. Romantic? Marital? Friendship? Otherwise?

To tell the story, check:

- all aspects (wider orbs allowed for conjunctions), conjunctions and the other 4th harmonic aspects first (conj, opp, sq) between the composite planet and the natal planets/angles/asteroids

-how composite planets overlay each natal, this is the house/life domain the relationship will impact

- how each natal planet/angle/important asteroid overlays the composite, this is added to the influence each person brings to the composite, to this relationship

- composite planets on personal mdps (Ceri's suggestion); VERY important.

(check this last point here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/003204.html )

I found an older analysis of my own composite and added some thoughts, as an example for an analysis.
Since my composite is back on track and lively again it's my pleasure to post it as example.


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The Sun - identity, purpose, basic nature and the very life of the relationship

Sun/Anteros 21 Gem 7th house

Me
Overlays my 5th house, conj Karma and SN – a fated, destined love with karmic past

Squaring my own Sun: Sun sq Sun makes it compelling

Trine Uranus/Valentine – more romance, Uranus true chart ruler; bring out this Uranus, in a flowing, taking-its-time way. With Sun and Uranus and MC, likely to make me shine, it brings freedom, joy and creativity with the 5th overlay, brings out and supports my personality and my interception (Aquarius in the 1st and Leo in the 7th) in a gentle way.

Resonates with my Eros in the 5th.

Sextile Alma and Chiron on one side, Vertex/Amor on the other: another romance clue, plus a balm to the soul, very healing.

Making a Yod with my angles, ASC and MC and releasing on NN/POF. Fated. Total investment.

Him
In the 9th house, but conj MC and Saturn (IC ruler). So for both it touches both angles and Saturn: MC and ASC. A cardinal relationship, stimulates commitment, family like. Possible marriage. Also sq Sun, ASC axis, Vertex axis and Karma: total investment. Touching the 9th as well, stimulating 9th house issues: learning, teaching, the relationship could be a goal, a dream, impulse for foreign affairs, travel, relocation, spirituality and philosophy. Spiritual connection, friendship. But with all the angles, Sun, Vertex and Saturn involved, it touches everything. Major relationship. Conj SN, just like in my case (composite Sun conj SN). Sun/Karma DW. Definitely fated and coming from the past.

Trine Vesta/ Uranus 95th ruler): stimulating commitment in love and a smooth change.

Also
Trine Aquarius stellium: Juno Ceres Eros Mercury (chart ruler). The same as in my case, a trine to the chart ruler.

Facilitates evolution and development of both charts as a whole.

Sextile Chiron and Union/Priapus: healing through merging, in a gentle, loving and supportive manner.

BQ Yod with Moon and Psyche/Pallas: causing major shift in psychic/psychological evolution; stimulating a psychic/telepathic/mental and emotional connection.

Resonates with his Mars (8th ruler) and Saturn (IC ruler) in his 9th house, so it stimulates the deep water houses and also, an erotic side.


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posted August 13, 2015 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC - personality of the relationship, the core of what is shared, direction

and


Venus - this love; shared values and tastes

ASC/Venus in Scorpio – Venus – the love, the nature of the partnership (DSC ruler)

Me
Conj my MC, square my Moon (DSC ruler) and Lilith

Overlay in my 10th – cardinal relationship, this love propels me forward

Another MC connection here, plus it sextiles my Sun and my ASC and trines my Saturn.

Resonates with my ASC in Cap.

Him
Conj his Moon (MC ruler) and trine his Sun/DSC/Vertex.

ASC semisextile NN exact.

Sq Ceres Eros Mercury (chart ruler) in the 5th and Union in the 11th.

Sextile Lilith/Psyche/Pallas.

Overlay in his 2nd. Apart from the Moon, resonates with his Uranus on 2nd cusp (5th ruler).

Venus in the 2nd on Scorpio Moon could bring intense obsession and needs, but also stability and fixed values and a fixed approach. Deep emotional impact. Venus rules DSC in the composite. ASC overlaying stimulates a 2nd house involvement and all 2nd house domain: values, finances, stability, sensuality.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chart Ruler - added to the significance of the Sun, nature and purpose of the relationship


Composite chart ruler is Pluto, so it pretty much will have the aspects in our synastry. Overlays his 1st and my 8th, the same as in synastry.

Second chart ruler Mars also rules the 5th house. It is in the 8th, almost near 9th house, so it touches both 8th and 9th. Mars in Leo conj Aphrodite. Passion, drive, sex, romance, creativity of the relationship.

Me
Mars overlays my 7th house, ideal for partnership for me, opposes Pysche exact. It has a strong emotional psychological impact, it can bring happiness and emotional fulfillment, it has an idealized touch.

Trines Neptune in Sagitarrius, an additional flavor similar to Psyche, it stimulates imagination, dreams, fascination. A touch of the platonic too.

Sextile Eros and my Mars/Pluto/Mercury stellium in the 8th, great aspect to have here. It actually makes a Kite for my Eros/Psyche/Pluto GT in the natal. In fact, It’s a Castle if we include Neptune.

Quincunx Ceres on 2nd cusp: could stimulate nurturing and over-dependence, in waves.
It resonates with all my planets n the 7th, Moon and Venus, Amor, Vertex, and my DSC.

Him
In 11th house, receiving love, also stimulating friendship, but Leo is his secondary 5th. Receiving warmth and passion, idealization of sex.

Opposes natal Venus and square Amor. Making for an intense T/square bringing his Venus out of its Aquarian detachment.

Trine Neptune and Cupido. The same touch of romance and idealization brought to sex. A touch of the platonic too.

But making a Minor Triangle with his natal Mars and natal Pluto, just like in my case: strong, lasting passion.

Quincunx Jupiter/Pholus/Alma: rejuvenating and stimulating. Bringing happiness, in waves.

It resonates with his Union and Priapus in Leo and his full 5th house.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Moon is the emotional, soul connection in the composite and it shows the needs of this relationship and how they are fulfilled. It connects to the hearth as well, the home, sharing an everyday life.

Moon, 8th ruler, at 0 Libra conj Pluto. It makes for a deep emotional composite, similar to 8th house overlays, but Libra aspires for harmony, beauty, equality. Being on 0, 8th house issues are cardinal for this relationship, the need to form a relationship and make it work is compulsive, also possible success/fame/setting a model/pioneering and the likes.

Me
Conj my 0 Libra Mars exact, this being part of my Mars stellium. SGC nearby.

A BUTTERFLY PRESERVED AND MADE PERFECT WITH A DART THROUGH IT
This Symbol implies something vital and beautiful being “Preserved” so that the passing of time doesn’t age, decay or destroy it. Beauty in shape or form has been frozen in one moment – denying the natural process of decay. An archetypal death is symbolized; a perfection through sacrifice.

Obviously, with this aspect receiving whatever my angular Mars receives in the chart, the emotional connection in this relationship is something very hot and stimulating for me, it could also show I am a major trigger of the Moon here too.
Moon overlays my 8th house, so it will be 8th house on 8th, strong resonance with my chart with a full 8th house: Sun Venus Pluto stellium etc. It stimulates all these planets.

Him
cMoon conj his ASC (1), so we have a double resonance here, the same resonance, since Mars and ASC are similar energy. Being there, it will sit tightly on his cross made of Sun on DSC, Vertex, Karma sq MC/Saturn/SN. It touches everything. For him, this Moon is mostly an issues of cardinal, Saturnian development and evolution, a marital archetype; for me, it is mostly an 8th house matter, however with everything being 8th house in my chart and being where it is (on my Mars) and me having Moon as DSC ruler, it touches me as deeply as it does to him.

Composite Moon is an impressive, compelling superposition for both charts.

It also conj his Valentine/Lust on his ASC and trines his Pallas/Psyche/Lilith stellium, having profound effect on his psyche as well. The emotional currents in the relationship are likely to cause changes in his psyche in a sinuous manner (sometimes subversive, like all trines are). He could be undermined or healed by the emotional atmosphere of the relationship.

Interestingly, although with 3-4 degrees, this Moon also trines my own Psyche and Eros.

Trines his Mars and Venus wider as well. And makes a perfect Jupiter quincunx. Highs are possible, happiness and surprises.


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posted August 13, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The analysis on this post includes two of the most important comparisons: checking the MC and NN connections. How the future of this relationship aligns with both charts.

One of the most beloved aspects in my composite is Jupiter conj IC and Pholus on 6-8 Pisces, with Jupiter ruling not just IC, but also NN/Mercury and being the intercepted chart ruler, the true ruler of this chart.

This great conjunction puts my Venus 6 Virgo on cMC 7 Virgo. This is a great aspect to have, the culmination of this relationship is the culmination of my Venus as well, and there is mutual support between these two here, plus with the Jupiter opp (I have in the natal as well) on MC/IC axis with Pholus, a happy home life is indicated, to say the least. Feeling euphoric is also indicated. Happiness.

The whole thing is sitting on our mutable cross made of my Venus sq our Neptune sq his Mars/my Eros and opp our Jupiter with Juno Ceres etc. being together and living together constantly activates this sexy mutable cross with Jupiter/IC/Pholus energy.
The Jupiter/IC conj also trines cSaturn/Amor exact, so there is a sustainable, long-term support and the ability to not go over the top if necessary coming from this blessed trine. Pisces Jupiter is happy there on IC, but kept in check by Saturn from the 8th with Amor. Marital indicator of stability and happiness. It also trines my natal Vesta in Scorpio and it sextiles his own Amor in Taurus.


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posted August 13, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno – the intimate, marital nature of this partnership. Where and how the two can form a “marriage” like relationship.

cJuno in Aquarius conj Ceres (1) trine Vesta and Uranus (1) and Sun/Anteros wider.

It is falling in my 1st house: a partnership making me feel “me” right on my Avx opp my Amor.

Falling in his 5th house, conj his chart ruler, Mercury exact: so we have the SAME thing here, for both people: a partnership making you feel YOU. Stimulating personal growth and expression.

Trining Uranus for both of us, chart ruler for me, 5th ruler for him.

Also conjuncts Eros and Jupiter, from his side. Stimulating Eros and sec. DSC and Sun and NN/IC ruler. Stimulating a marital archetype, Juno/Jupiter.

Opp his Union. Trine his MC/Saturn/SN EXACT, not even a few minutes, and quincunx his ASC, semisextiling his DSC. Also perfect semisextile with his Pallas/Psyche/Lilith stellium. Sextile NN too.

It is perhaps the only astrobody analyzed so far that seems to have more impact on him than me: Juno, the partnership.


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posted August 13, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo

you are a the fastest writer on LL

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posted August 13, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it seems that your relationship affected him more than it did affect you, didn't it?

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posted August 13, 2015 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And finally, cNN: life path of this relationship, direction.

19 Sag, conj Mercury (0), cMC and Sun ruler and intercepted DSC ruler.
Squaring both our Suns in opposition.

Falling in my 11th and his 3rd, passing through friendship and fellowship, but resonating with our Neptune in these houses: his DSC ruler, my 2nd ruler. My IC in Taurus.

Trine my Alma and my Moon.

Making a Yod with my IC and my DSC.

Trine his Chiron and Priapus.

Sextile his Juno/Ceres/Eros stellium and his Vesta.

Our NN are 9 deg apart in synastry, considered conj.

It has a strong Moon, Mercury and Neptune vibe.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
So it seems that your relationship affected him more than it did affect you, didn't it?

It's still ongoing, back on track, as I said. No, not at all, it affects both of us equally and deeply. The only exception is Juno; for him, Juno touches everything in his chart/ The rest is balanced.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
LeeLoo

you are a the fastest writer on LL


Thank you, you're sweet, but I had them in a file lol I am not THAT fast haha

That's about it, the model.
Of course, every planet is important, but I already wrote a ton here, I won't bore you anymore.

But y'all go and analyze each planet.

For example, Mercury is very important too, for communication impact and style. Ours looks great. Just a small example, Mercury falls in my 11th, his 3rd.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love those superpositions!

And I love your approach to presenting your astrological ideas.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Since my composite is back on track and lively again it's my pleasure to post it as example.



Have you guys reconnected?

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posted August 13, 2015 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Ceri

and thank you

sorry everyone for the many posts....but I thought it could be useful as an example of such an analysis.

I believe it is very important and revelatory for any relationship.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Have you guys reconnected?

Well, look at those charts... Astrology wins, always! lol

Hopefully Thank you!! keep your fingers crossed!

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posted August 13, 2015 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you, you're sweet, but I had them in a file lol I am not THAT fast haha

That's about it, the model.
Of course, every planet is important, but I already wrote a ton here, I won't bore you anymore.

But y'all go and analyze each planet.

For example, Mercury is very important too, for communication impact and style. Ours looks great. Just a small example, Mercury falls in my 11th, his 3rd.


hahahah I really thought you are a former secretary-champion


Okay what about this?:

Composite ICconjnode in cancer:
- conjuncts my natal sun/asc
- and inconjuncts his venus and falls in his 7h


composite venus in taurus in 1:
- does conjunct my vesta in 10
- does conjunct his chiron in 5


composite moon and mars in aries in 1.
- does conjunct my mc in aries
- does conjunct his moon


composite juno in leo 4:
- does conjunct his vertex
- does nothing for me

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posted August 13, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's still ongoing, back on track, as I said. No, not at all, it affects both of us equally and deeply. The only exception is Juno; for him, Juno touches everything in his chart/ The rest is balanced.


back on track? great

but the composite venus conjuncts his natal moon and your mc only? Thats why i thought he is more affected

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posted August 13, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha! Didn't i do at least one spread for your love life in August and all spreads said that August will be YOUR LOVE month?

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posted August 13, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
Ha! Didn't i do at least one spread for your love life in August and all spreads said that August will be YOUR LOVE month?

Let's not get ourselves ahead with things....says my Saturn on DSC lol but thank you guys for sharing this enthusiasm Luv you!

I still need to look at how natal planets fall in the composite, in what houses; but it is your turn now

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posted August 13, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, look at those charts... Astrology wins, always! lol

Hopefully Thank you!! keep your fingers crossed!



I am soo so happy for you!
How did it happen? You know I am curious!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Enneline: hahahah I really thought you are a former secretary-champion


Okay what about this?:

Composite ICconjnode in cancer:
- conjuncts my natal sun/asc
- and inconjuncts his venus and falls in his 7h


it seems to have a stronger impact for you here, but overlays his DSC and connecting to venus should be equally important so far

composite venus in taurus in 1:
- does conjunct my vesta in 10
- does conjunct his chiron in 5

it looks very healing for both of you; it could have a professional impact on you as well; it is cardinal for you, romance for him; healing past wounds in romance is possible for him


composite moon and mars in aries in 1.
- does conjunct my mc in aries
- does conjunct his moon

lovely composite with so many planets in the 1st! this is a crucial aspect; it points to motherhood, and the mother archetype; mothering each other for sure

composite juno in leo 4:
- does conjunct his vertex
- does nothing for me

really nothing?/ no other aspect to your chart?


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quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I am soo so happy for you!
How did it happen? You know I am curious!


I don't want to jinx it, I need more time to tell the story....but first it happened through dreams hahaha I should go to Faith's thread...and then writing

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back on track? great

but the composite venus conjuncts his natal moon and your mc only? Thats why i thought he is more affected


In synastry, his Moon conj my MC exact. MC and Moon have similar symbolism, but also parental symbolism, with MC being Saturn - the father, and Moon the mother (although the MC stands for the mother, as angle). Anyway, Venus is linked to this archetype; I don't think Venus touching my MC is less important. For me, it could make me feel protected, loved, maybe even adored a little. Relationship puts me on a pedestal. For him, it is more intimate, it touches his Scorpio Moon strongly. He could be more possessive. (which he is to a great extent duh)

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
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composite juno in leo 4:
- does conjunct his vertex
- does nothing for me

really nothing?/ no other aspect to your chart?

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composite juno just widely conjuncts my merc/jup in leo in 1st


mars is the chart ruler and it is in aries in 1st
- does conjunct his moon closely my moon widely
- does conjunct widely my mc


composite pluto is in libra in the 7h
- does opposite both our moons in aries
- does conjunct his mc in libra


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