posted August 18, 2015 09:53 PM            

It was just sort of this weird light going on the other day, when I was reading one of your responses, Lotis. I realised I've never actually sought your opinion directly!

So I figured, I'd like to do that now. Take your time. There's no rush, and certainly no obligation. I appreciate it.

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Tropical Synastry:

Composite:

Natals + Composite:

(Forgive the weird points on that one; it specifically highlights some karmic patterns.)

Also, I'm not sure if you work with Draco, but I'm happy to post those up as well.

posted August 19, 2015 05:40 AM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 19, 2015 05:57 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What I notice is a Butterfly falling exactly on ASC and flanked by 2 sextiles and a sq in the middle, so it makes for a regular geometric configuration, almost like a mandala. Very impressive! (the composite)

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posted August 19, 2015 07:45 AM            

Being a bird/butterfly, it makes the two people feel high together, and able to fly high together, in a platonic, spiritualized connection. They also feel the need to spend one-on-one time together, to be alone with each other, to experience this energy they only feel in this diad. It's a Twin aspect, in the sense that it gives the feeling of having a soul-to-soul, similar soul connection and this need for the diad comes from each of them being one of the wings of the Butterfly, making it fly only when they are together. You could even experience the feeling you are missing a wing, when you are deprived of the connection with the person for too long.

The direction of the Butterfly is the direction of the couple in this flight.

Since yours sits on angle/Uranus/Chiron, with Uranus IC ruler so tight on ASC, and connected to Moon/Eros/Psyche, I take it this triggers a powerful awakening projected into the future (Uranus/ASC), exhilarating, electric feeling like being up there during a lightning storm.

Looking at the Butterfly wings, one can tell how the two can rise up there: here we have a tough square I have in my composite as well, it's an all-or-nothing, life-and-death square coupled with an intense yin/yang, Moon/Mars; these two are the propellers of the flight; and the pleasant feelings once you are up there flying already, the floating, gliding part of the flight is shown by the trines: Mars/Saturn - a long-distance flight, with Mars ruling DSC, and Moon/Pluto, we all know how it feels.

But you have a more complex configuration here, the sq between the sextiles is added too, to the propeller part, and the two sextiles as supportive flaps: Jupiter/Saturn - strong plane; and Moon/Neptune - day and night I dream of you, keeping you inside

You got yourself a spaceship here

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 19, 2015 08:04 AM            

Makes me want to check my synastries/ composites for butterflies, too.

posted August 22, 2015 02:14 AM            

I just wanted to make sure that I thanked you for your work on that. I had no idea about the Butterfly pattern, and I have to say, it fits! Extremely well, in fact.

posted August 22, 2015 07:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Lee,

I just wanted to make sure that I thanked you for your work on that. I had no idea about the Butterfly pattern, and I have to say, it fits! Extremely well, in fact.

I'm going to add in a few other points to texture the pattern, now that I know what's creating it. Your advice and explanation was wonderfully illuminating. Thank you!

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AstroMandala

posted August 22, 2015 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Lee,

I just wanted to make sure that I thanked you for your work on that. I had no idea about the Butterfly pattern, and I have to say, it fits! Extremely well, in fact.

I'm going to add in a few other points to texture the pattern, now that I know what's creating it. Your advice and explanation was wonderfully illuminating. Thank you!

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posted August 27, 2015 04:11 AM            

Finally got back to this thread.

I took a look at the synastry and my overall impression of it is that it’s very involved, intense, and dynamic. Lots of hard aspects, but a few soft aspects as well to smooth the edges.

There were a few standouts… I couldn’t help but notice the exact Pluto/Mars conjunction which makes from strong physical chemistry. As it happens his Mars in Libra is also his 5th house ruler, so the conjunction to your Pluto has a psychological romantic connotation here, and not just a physical attraction one. Eddie Cibrian and Leann Rimes have the same aspect in their synastry, his Pluto conjunct her 5th house ruler exact. Interestingly, their relationship started out as a ‘triangle’… And I believe in your case you’re in an open relationship with your husband, and this Cancer is the other man in your life. It’s not the same as a cheating affair, but there’s still a triangular vibe there (In certain cases a strong Pluto in synastry, especially to the relationship house rulers, does seem to indicate the triangles in love relationships even if it’s just the awareness that there is an ‘other’ entangled with the one you’re seeing). Pluto adds an aura of discretion and privacy to a connection, as well as the sense that there are some things to the relationship that cannot be shared with the outside world. His 5th house ruler Mars in Libra goes well with your Libra Sun symbolically also, and is conjunct the Sun by 3 degrees.

His Sun sextile your Asc/Venus conjunction means that you are able to feel comfortable and at ease with him most of the time, and that you feel a genuine affection and admiration for his solar strength and charisma. On the other hand his Venus is square your Moon/Uranus conjunction. The Venus/Uranus square adds a very electric chemistry, and also a tad of instability to the connection. The Moon/Venus square shows that he feels real affection for you, however it also shows that at times you may seem incomprehensibly moody, or contrary, from his perspective. His Mercury/Neptune trine, with Uranus sextiling both, aspects your Moon/Uranus well. This helps him understand you well on an intuitive level, and helps him to deal with those situations in which your moods don’t seem to match.

The two of you share a Sun/Moon opposition. Whenever the Sun and Moon aspect each other it feels like there some type of direct line connecting each of your cores. You are able to ’feel’ each other profoundly. Another nice connection that you share is that your 7th house ruler strongly connects with his chart… It trines his Moon, sextiles his Mars, and squares his Uranus, this makes you feel open and receptive to him in general. He matches your 7th house symbolism quite well too. You have Neptune in Sag in the 4th house (of Cancer), and he is a Cancer Sun with Sag rising. His Aries Moon sits in your 8th house, and so he activates you intimacy instinct as well. Your 5th house ruler in Libra matches well with his Mars (how he represents his masculinity) in Libra by sign. And your Dsc in Pisces goes well with his Venus square Neptune, and Mercury trine Neptune, aspects.

From his side, as I mentioned before, his 5th house ruler matches your Sun. Added to this his 7th house ruler in the 8th house goes well with your Scorpio Moon/Mercury. And if we look at his secondary 7th house (with a Gemini Dsc the secondary 7th house is the 3rd house) it’s Aquarius ruled by Uranus in Virgo… This goes well symbolically with your Moon/Uranus conjunction, and Virgo Asc/Venus. Your Mercury, Uranus, Moon, and Mars in the 3rd house resonates with his Gemini Dsc as well. So the both of you have personality types that the other is able to identify as attractive, and matching each others taste.

Looking at the composite, there is a Venus/Jupiter conjunction showing that the two of you have genuine warm, well-wishing feelings for each other. Even if the two of you were just platonic friends this aspect would add liking, and a positive attitude towards the other person. This should help greatly, as the other really tight aspect in the composite is a rather tempestuous and volatile Mars/Moon square. This can indicate a rather primal attraction of the ‘Tarzan and Jane’ variety, as well as emotional fire-works and bickering. You’d feel passionately about each other in good ways often too, but there’s need to be careful that this intensity doesn’t boil over into anger or resentment of some kind.

The synastry shows a lot of attraction for sure, and I feel like I’ve repeated myself a little in saying this, because it‘s like the same theme showing in several different ways. Personally, I’m naturally monogamous and can’t imagine such an open relationship, but I can see why the two of you could appeal to each other even purely from an astrological perspective. One thing I did notice is that neither one of you have your Saturn highly aspected in the synastry, and yet both of you have Uranus strongly aspected. His Uranus squares your 7th house ruler, and your Uranus squares his Venus. I suspect this is highly symbolic. Neither one of you is finding your main source of stability in the other. It’s more like your finding excitement and stimulation of some kind instead.

posted August 27, 2015 03:04 PM            

Thanks so much for your reply! I found several things bringing that 'eye-roll-and-forehead-slap' which I was looking for within it. Namely how his 7H2 is Aquarius, which I never quite saw linking up to my MOON-URA (well, duh) and, of course, being 3H -- where I have a huge stellium. Moreover, how it matches his 7H symbolism. I was initially thinking, 'but it's all Scorpio', and wasn't considering that 3H is 3H. The Geminian expression is going to be there, inherently. Plus, his MERC is in his 7H -- so there's some Scorpionic influence going on with him, too. Needing a partner who carries Geminian and Plutonian energy. Hah! Well, he lucked out.

And, I have to say: thank God for our MARS conjunct PLUTO, or we'd never have even attempted a sexual relationship, and would've failed in something VERY major we're here to do.

I had the most amazing conversation late last night with a dear friend who wanted to make sure that I know how influential and inspirational our explorations into sexual experience -- especially dysfunction -- have been for him, as well as many others. He got me thinking very seriously about the work that I do, and how integral my boyfriend is in that work. Nobody else approaches sexuality quite the way that he does, which works exceedingly well with me. It makes it possible for us to do this work together.

I suppose it's part of our work here as Twin Flames. I'm sure the 'how' will present itself when the time is right.

Now, as to SATURN, there's actually a bit of it -- even though, yes, our Uranian influence would be far stronger. We're not about the laundry and seeing that the toast isn't burnt; we're about moving mountains, changing the game, producing art that changes the world. BIG things.

Funny, but we're both asexual, too, so I can't help but wonder if that's also a bit of our 'Uranian influence', given its implication in, not only unconventional attachment styles, but also asexuality. Hmmm. There's a definite thought!

Still, the SATURN's there. His SATURN (2º) quincunx my VENUS is quite active in our synastry. The 'adjustments' that have been needed for us to even have the relationship we do; the work, dedication, love, and definite commitment.

We're actually very committed to each other. It's just, I suppose, more of a 'Uranian' style commitment. (Which is no different with my husband.) We've vowed never to be obligated to each other; we're together out of the love we have for each other, and the purpose we serve together. We're together because we can't not be together. If that makes sense? Perhaps we can actually explain it through Saturnine energy ...

There's a weak square of my SATURN to his SUN (6º). Just enough to be 'there', linking my 5H (being my 5R) to his 8H (where it's placed) and his 9H. Perfect explanation how we're dedicated to our creative, as well as energy to experience deep merging on a spiritual level.

Then, I'm not sure if you saw the SATURN novile VENUS? I only mention it as it's a conjunction in our H9, which I find lovely, and quite fitting.

Most are dual-aspects:

SUN square SATURN (6º)
SATURN opposite SUN (8º)

The orbs are just so wide as to operate more softly.

Or they're just minor:

VENUS quincunx SATURN (2º)
SATURN novile VENUS (1º)

I'd say our Saturnine energy isn't intrusive -- save for that quincunx which has definitely required compromise and work. Otherwise it's all minor, background. Rather than glue, the force of the rest of the synastry uses the very nature of gravity itself to hold the rest together -- not because its intentionally bound by some external component; it merely fits together so neatly that the very structure of it is 'bound' together.

And that fits us rather well.

posted August 28, 2015 10:12 AM            

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We've vowed never to be obligated to each other; we're together out of the love we have for each other, and the purpose we serve together. We're together because we can't not be together. If that makes sense?

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