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Topic: composite versus composite with natals
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VelvetPriestess Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 22, 2015 05:03 PM
What's best?In synastry what have you found to be most important in saying what a relationship is - the composite on its own, or the composite in relation to the natal charts of the people involved... IP: Logged |
VelvetPriestess Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 22, 2015 05:38 PM
It's interesting to me, because I am looking at synastry just now where the composite Venus isn't aspecting much - just Juno really within the actual composite as a single entity, but that composite Venus is conjunct one person's Sun and the other person's MC when comparing it with the natal charts. I know you can use either tool to see things in synastry, but I wondered what people's experiences were in which is stronger.IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: Monochrome Rαinbows Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 22, 2015 05:49 PM
Equally strong, but showing two different things. The view you get from the composite alone is how the relationship is seen from outside -- an objective point of view, perhaps. Comparing that to the natals shows how much the relationship is affecting us.They're both great techniques. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4629 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 22, 2015 05:50 PM
I've found that when the natal 'hooks into' the composite, it definitely impacts the individual significantly. Naturally, when it's a light or personal point, that's going to be a considerable effect. Keep it tight, though. Nothing beyond 3º, unless you've got a very good reason for it. IP: Logged |
VelvetPriestess Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 22, 2015 06:03 PM
quote: Equally strong, but showing two different things. The view you get from the composite alone is how the relationship is seen from outside -- an objective point of view, perhaps. Comparing that to the natals shows how much the relationship is affecting us.
Interesting, I didn't know about this outside nature of the composite. Aubyanne - I suppose by good reason to go beyond 3, you might mean a cluster of aspects, ie. composite venus conjunct natal neptune (at 2') plus natal sun (at 4') - so since the neptune is conjunct the sun in the natal, it is a reason to go to a slightly wider orb. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4629 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 22, 2015 06:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by VelvetPriestess: Interesting, I didn't know about this outside nature of the composite.Aubyanne - I suppose by good reason to go beyond 3, you might mean a cluster of aspects, ie. composite venus conjunct natal neptune (at 2') plus natal sun (at 4') - so since the neptune is conjunct the sun in the natal, it is a reason to go to a slightly wider orb.
Stellia and close conjunctions definitely provide a greater impact, because of the light (or energy) carried. If there's a VENUS/NEPTUNE=SUN (c/c=n) I'd certainly count it, as it's likely to form a planetary picture, with the SUN on the VENUS/NEPTUNE Midpoint. Ergo, the SUN will illuminate that midpoint, either activating it in the composite, or feeling the midpoint very personally. IP: Logged |
VelvetPriestess Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 22, 2015 07:11 PM
the configuration in this case is composite Venus at 6', natal Neptune at 8', natal sun at 10'IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2048 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 22, 2015 09:46 PM
Composite conjunctions and oppositions are definitely the strongest you can imagine, seeing the underlying geometry of those compared to the picture beneath a natal planet conj/opp a Compo planet. But some are even more powerful than others. Let me show you my best example, that of my own parents. They had NO (strong) conjunction nor opposition related to Compo/Natal and personal planets. They had one strong Composite conjunction, namely Sun/Mercury. BUT that was the result of DW Sun/Mercury *TRINE* in their synastry. I can honestly say that everything in their relationship revolved around THAT ^ specific aspect. They were both writers who very much inspired each other AND complemented each other impressively in this area. Composite conj/opp without any legal aspect underneath are also very strong but I would never place a natal planet conj/opp a Compo planet above that. Same goes up for a Compo planet conj/opp a natal planet: Look at the underlying geometry. I'll give you mine; His Moon 12 Pisces My Moon 16 Scorp Our Compo MOON 14 CAP. HIS natal VENUS 14 CAP! (srry forgot that hehe) @EDIT U see ^. That's a 'minor grand trine' (or: 'legal aspects') in synastry. Verrry nice I admit. And I even think one of the best aspects we have, but even then, I wouldn't theoretically place it above a tight Venus/Moon conjunction in the Composite, whatever the aspects underneath may be.
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VelvetPriestess Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 23, 2015 06:48 PM
Thanks MIR, that's really interesting, especially about your parents.IP: Logged |