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Aubyanne
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posted August 23, 2015 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So. I'm exploring a new theory to investigate potential natals of alternate lifelines -- better known as 'past lives' -- except the latter is irrelevant when time is no longer perceived as linear. I digress.

First, I'm going to address the synastry of the lifelines themselves directly, after explaining a bit about the process used to create these charts.

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AL Natal #1:

AL Natal #2:

Synastry of AL #1 and Current Natal:

Synastry of AL #2 and Current Natal:

Draco of AL #1:

Draco of AL #2:

I've used these particular points as they relate most relevantly to the lifelines and experiences recalled.

More to follow.

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Aubyanne
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posted August 23, 2015 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following is a synastry between tropical natals that were created using a new technique designed to discover alternate lifeline tropical natals -- i.e., 'past life' charts. It is in its infancy and in need of active exploration, investigation, and research.

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It was from 1999 to 2001 that I first discovered them through dreams, visions, and spontaneous 'past-life regressions'.

First, I learnt that her name was Riley Wingate; she had been an FBI special agent, before I 'met' her dying of a gunshot wound in an unknown parking lot in the the Washington, DC metroplex. Time period unknown. She was so young -- couldn't have been over 30. Everything was either pre-9/11, or it didn't occur in this lifeline.

She had a few known nemeses, but none compared to him: Dr Penderan Fauste; a notorious signature killer -- as manipulative and beguiling as he was complicated and lethal. I remember, as a young girl, finding the character of Hannibal Lecter to be similar in nature with distinct differences. She only shares similarity to Starling by way of role, rather than personality. Outside of, I suppose, 'Virginian politesse and cordiality'.

With that, I will share 'their' synastry, with explanation and instructions for technique exploration to follow.

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Aubyanne
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posted August 23, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So. How did I find these charts?

It begun with a hunch.

He and I both have never quite 'belonged' to our generations, respectively, and were 'born old souls'. We're both multidimensional individuals with a recently confirmed karmic murder pattern in our synastry, and multidimensional cycle of violence we've had to clear the resultant debts from. I've always been intrigued by his never quite remembering that my birthday isn't in September; since the beginning, he's been 'oddly certain' that it is.

However, my sidereal SUN is 24º Virgo, which would put 'my birthdate' in September. I began to wonder, if maybe, we were missing a crucial detail by trying to follow the Draconic 'into the past', as it's future-oriented. My dPLUTO does intrigue, however, and I wouldn't doubt I might head back into the Victorian era after this. That doesn't help me with the present karma with which I'm contending.

That got me thinking about my sidereal PLUTO.

I was flabbergasted to find that the day that tSUN was 0º45 conjunct sSUN (sidereal SUN), and tPLUTO was 0º00 conjunct sPLUTO!

Bear in mind, this MAY be an anomaly.

His was much more complicated to track down, and it was only when I found a sort of 'method of proof', akin to evaluating mathematical equations, that I began to feel more confident in the results.

That potential proof resulted in the following:

This is the resulting Draconic natal of the above calculated tropical chart, presented in the synastry.

My tropical natal:

Yes. What you're seeing is 100% legitimate, unedited, and, frankly, stumbled upon. The Draconic chart from the date found via following the sPLUTO and sSUN directly mirrors my tropical natal SUN and ASCENDANT within 1º-3º!

Further explanation of the technique to follow.

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Aubyanne
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posted August 23, 2015 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As was prior mentioned, finding his was a bit more complicated. But, hey, what would one expect from a multidimensional individual? Nonetheless, I needed to find the one lifeline that was active during the creation of the karma we're dealing with now.

That took a bit of ... innovating.

I evaluated a few possibilities, with very good potential, which either satisfied the sSUN conjunct tSUN, or sPLUTO conjunct tPLUTO -- but failed the Draconic mirroring. I think I want the dSUN to be within 3º of the tropical SUN. Bonus, if the dASC is a match for the ASC, as well as a lunar connexion. But the dSUN-SUN is a must.

Here's where it became very, very complicated.

Initially, I thought the tSUN must be conjunct the sSUN, 0º-1º. However, it didn't check out in the Draco, so I chose to start with the Draco -- and work backwards.

... It worked.

It took me quite a bit from the dSUN, which was a legitimate concern. Until I saw a 0º match with the sPLUTO -- and a 0º conjunction with tNEPTUNE and sNEPTUNE! Now, does that matter? Perhaps when it's 12H in the tropical -- and thus a karmic marker, it does!

And, so, here we are:


Alternate Lifeline #2 Tropical Natal:

Present Tropical Natal #2:

Alternate Lifeline #2 Draconic Natal:

Pretty astonishing, no?

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posted August 23, 2015 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent theory !

So, I've been thinking about it, and it actually seems there'd be many possible birthdates to choose from. At least for people who don't have a clue about when their closest lifeline occurred.

I wonder if the nSUN conjunct the dSUN is the only mandatory aspect that would help us narrow down the search ? Perhaps the SUN (sidereal to tropical connection) worked for you because it's your 12R. (You are right in saying, though, that a sSUN conjunct tSUN isn't always present -- it'd logically mean, as dSUN conjunct nSUN is a must, that the NNODE would always have to be around 7° Pisces.)

But you've done a great job. I honestly think you have found something.

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posted August 23, 2015 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
Excellent theory !

So, I've been thinking about it, and it actually seems there'd be many possible birthdates to choose from. At least for people who don't have a clue about when their closest lifeline occurred.

I wonder if the nSUN conjunct the dSUN is the only mandatory aspect that would help us narrow down the search ? Perhaps the SUN (sidereal to tropical connection) worked for you because it's your 12R. (You are right in saying, though, that a sSUN conjunct tSUN isn't always present -- it'd logically mean, as dSUN conjunct nSUN is a must, that the NNODE would always have to be around 7° Pisces.)

But you've done a great job. I honestly think you have found something.


Be sure to read through the first few posts, Pel. I explain a few different approaches. I feel the Draco is a definite lock; that's got to be present. Otherwise, yes, we can use the sidereal 12R match; or the sPLUTO.

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posted August 25, 2015 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Be sure to read through the first few posts, Pel. I explain a few different approaches. I feel the Draco is a definite lock; that's got to be present. Otherwise, yes, we can use the sidereal 12R match; or the sPLUTO.

Right ! Sorry about that. So, maybe we can start proceeding by elimination ?

dSUN conjunct nSUN means that the difference between our other life's natal NNODE and SUN must be the same as our 0°00 Aries -- nSUN interval, allowing for a 3° orb on either side. For instance, with my SUN at 24° Libra, the difference allowed between the tNNODE and tSUN would be 201°-207°. We could eliminate all the impossible birthdates for a start, and then allow for different possibilities concerning the next criteria (one for sPLUTO, another for the 12R, perhaps also a 12H planet, etc.).

... Not sure if I'm doing this correctly.

Question : the birthtimes are still technically impossible to determine, right ? That is, unless you want an exact 0°00 conjunction with whatever astrobody and you modify the TOB accordingly.

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posted August 25, 2015 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I've been matching the sidereal ASC to ASC within 0°30, preferably going for 0°00 exactly. Thus far, it's proving illuminating.

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posted August 25, 2015 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have only one of my own present. Other ones i haven't been able to track down the records of their actual birth.

So here goes - i am inside, my past self (just before this life) - outside.

The interesting stuff is Moon conjunction, probably the alignment of angles (as her birth time is approximate, of course),

the opposition of Saturns
Spirits conjunct
Karma conjunct NN
Uranus conjunct my Chart ruler Mercury exact and Venus
etc

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posted August 25, 2015 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, i'm sorry, didn't read the posts, just the title. My bad.

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Aubyanne
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posted August 25, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
Oh, i'm sorry, didn't read the posts, just the title. My bad.

That's fine! It still applies, I'd say.

And what I find most intriguing is the exact conjunction of the MOON. Did you rectify the TOB to bring that about? It's just too exact!

But the ALMA-SPIRIT link is definitely the sort of thing I'm looking for; that kind of signature. Thank you, Selene! This is actually tremendously helpful, as your charts can act as a kind of 'control', being verifiably alternate (past) lifeline synastry -- even if with yourself.

I'm curious now, given your unique experience. Are you able to apply the hypothesis and arrive at a chart that's similar in nature? Using the sidereal links and Draconic 'proof' ?

And do you have his previous information, and birth records, for synastry?

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posted August 26, 2015 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's fine! It still applies, I'd say.

And what I find most intriguing is the exact conjunction of the MOON. Did you rectify the TOB to bring that about? It's just too exact!

But the ALMA-SPIRIT link is definitely the sort of thing I'm looking for; that kind of signature. Thank you, Selene! This is actually tremendously helpful, as your charts can act as a kind of 'control', being verifiably alternate (past) lifeline synastry -- even if with yourself.

I'm curious now, given your unique experience. Are you able to apply the hypothesis and arrive at a chart that's similar in nature? Using the sidereal links and Draconic 'proof' ?

And do you have his previous information, and birth records, for synastry?


I'll try and see what comes up!

I knew that she was born at the morning around 5am to 8am, i chose 7.10 am myself. So the Moon could be a bit off.


Yes, i know his birth info too, just not the time. I'll post it too then. It is even more striking with Moon-Sun/Moon tight conjunction etc.

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posted August 26, 2015 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr.Uranus and his past self.

Although the Moon could be off, but the Sun-Moon conjunction is striking. AND Mr.Uranus's draconic Sun is also at the same spot (maybe a couple degrees off, i don't remember)

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posted August 26, 2015 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As to draconic-natal comparison, my draconic chart is much more similar to her tropical than vice-versa.

My draconic natal:

Her tropical natal:


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