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angel4845
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posted September 17, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I Honestly thought he was someone that was open minded to new age concepts and spirituality etc. turns out he isn't because of this one night we had on a friday 2 months ago and i can't seem to forget about what he had done and said to me. My best friend has a boyfriend and yet still hangs out with him to this day because she is still in love with her ex boyfriend which is this (goth guy) who insulted my views and my passion which is Astrology.

we were having dinner and i wanted to read his horoscope and i read his horoscope wrong because i realized a day later he had put the WRONG PLACE OF BIRTH. plus he has venus square mars natally and i read an awful interpretation on cafe astrology that does not match up who he is and after that told me that astrology is FULL OF **** and to stop PREACHING LIKE A CHRISTIAN. and i had to explain and ask him "do you know what exactly is astrology? what is it?" he says "its a personality statistical basis on the 12 signs of the zodiac" and i said "okay and what else? what else does astrology do?" and he said "thats it, it's just based on the signs" and i said "No it isn't, it is much more than that in face do you know what the 12 houses are? do you know that applying aspect sand separating aspects are considered etc." and he got stuck and couldn't say a word and he said "noooooo" an di told him "then you don't know really know what astrology really is, its a research not a religion, learn to judge something if you don't have enough evidence to prove your ultimate conclusion of the type of philosophy we are dealing with here...." and he told me that i' m just preaching, that i just believe in it just because i want to and that provoked me so much and we were in a restaurant for the living god, i feel he took advantage of the environment and decided to take a chance to insult and tell me my beliefs were a load of BS. i never even preached about astrology when we were eating he used that that term to provoke me.

I need some insight on how to stop being so angry with men like him, i feel he has no emotions and he is just a born abuser.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 17, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgive me, but I don't think he was being abusive. Argumentative? Certainly. But abusive? That's ... taking it just a tad beyond the scope of the actual 'crime'.

My husband used to actively outright mock my being an astrologer. When I asked why he doesn't mock his mother for being religious (he's atheist) he couldn't answer me. I demanded that he show me the same respect as he does his mother. 'But that's a religion,' he'd said, 'and you've told me that astrology isn't.' To which I agreed; it's manipulation of data sets like any other soft science. And he's a former scientist, so why mock that, too?

From that day onward, he's been -- at the very least respectful -- though it's hardly changed his actual opinion of things. Ah, well. Heh. It's the small victories.

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llewsacm
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posted September 17, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love that aubyanne!

Ok, so here's how I work with skeptics when reading their chart for fun...

First, I do it privately.

Second, I tell them I am not judging them, only interpreting the energies I feel from their chart

Thur, I tell them anything I relay is kept in confidence and will not be shared with anyone else

Lastly, I do not quote quote info from cafe astrology about one single aspect. I look at the chart overall to determine the type of person I am trying to help, and go from there.

Maybe this may help you when dealing with others going forward? It has helped me. Have been in your shoes on more than one occasion.

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angel4845
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posted September 17, 2015 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Forgive me, but I don't think he was being abusive. Argumentative? Certainly. But abusive? That's ... taking it just a tad beyond the scope of the actual 'crime'.

My husband used to actively outright mock my being an astrologer. When I asked why he doesn't mock his mother for being religious (he's atheist) he couldn't answer me. I demanded that he show me the same respect as he does his mother. 'But that's a religion,' he'd said, 'and you've told me that astrology isn't.' To which I agreed; it's manipulation of data sets like any other soft science. And he's a former scientist, so why mock that, too?

From that day onward, he's been -- at the very least respectful -- though it's hardly changed his actual opinion of things. Ah, well. Heh. It's the small victories.


alright, i guess i am taking it too far (because I'm very angry honestly) but it makes me very upset when he compared me to religious people and had lied by saying that "I'm preaching" and i never was preaching i feel he took the perfect opportunity (in a restaurant in public to argue and disrespect me and tell me to stop talking and i obviously can not appriately defend myself because there is people with there kids even though deep down inside i wish i could've lashed out) to insult my passion. I'm just very angry and upset for someone like him to disrespect my views and judge a topic he barely knows nothing about and specifically doesn't even care about as he is an atheist himself as he has made it clear that night.

he even said that he is "open minded" in the past but clearly he isn't from that night and i told him that and he denied it and did not even once apologize for his disrespect and shutting me up at the restaurant because he didn't want to hear my point. despite that i proved my point to him he was stubborn enough to tell me stop talking and i absolutely felt disrespected.

i understand how your husband would respect you onward in regards to a sensitive subject like this but this guy is close to my best friend for certain REASONS but decides to insult her BEST CHILDHOOD FRIEND for 15 years?? i find that totally disrepectful on both me and her and in a way i feel she does not see this as a bad sign for what he did. she's still in love with him and hangs out with him yet she has a boyfriend. i don't understand how someone would let there own ex boyfriend, friend, family member act rudely and tell someone "astrology is full of **** !" or "your religion is stupid!" or like he said "you just believe in astrology cause you believe in it and you want to!". I'm sorry and i've chosen to distance myself from my friend as i feel she has no respect for herself and for her own friend (me).

it's not abusive yes it's not (i was taking it too far), but it's completely disrespectful and rude to receive unnecessary hurtful comments and i' m still learning to accept that there is nothing i can do and wasting my energy on being upset is pointless, i' m just frustrated how things are in the world.
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angel4845
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posted September 17, 2015 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Love that aubyanne!

Ok, so here's how I work with skeptics when reading their chart for fun...

First, I do it privately.

Second, I tell them I am not judging them, only interpreting the energies I feel from their chart

Thur, I tell them anything I relay is kept in confidence and will not be shared with anyone else

Lastly, I do not quote quote info from cafe astrology about one single aspect. I look at the chart overall to determine the type of person I am trying to help, and go from there.

Maybe this may help you when dealing with others going forward? It has helped me. Have been in your shoes on more than one occasion.


thanks llewscam this has helped me a lot i will go ahead and do this from now on and yes i realized that i can not base off my conclusion from cafe astrology as i do find it a 'bit' inaccurate even for myself which is why i research old threads on LL and other astrology sites etc. plus it takes me a while to really get the picture of there true horoscope . i will certainly take this into consideration.

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