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Topic: Finished or just beginning?
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stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 18, 2015 09:19 PM
  
We're not speaking right now. I still get the feeling we're not finished. There are endurance and longevity aspects. You'll see a lot of pluto too. He does seem kind of attached as much as he pretends not to be. Are we to be enemies from now on or reconcile?   IP: Logged |
Nine
Moderator Posts: 2458
From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 18, 2015 09:31 PM
Hard to say. A lot of fixed energy suggests whatever decision is made will be held on to.The Mars-Sun aspects lead me to side with probably finished, or long and acrimonious. Mars in Cancer has a hard time letting go of hurts. Mars on that moon for sure will deliver real, unintended, and imagined hurts. IP: Logged |
starmoon
Knowflake Posts: 1776
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posted September 19, 2015 03:32 PM
i say the blue person in synastry would have a hard time letting this go. probably more interested than red, for sure, and more likely to hang around, hang on, or come back around.IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 22, 2015 06:03 PM
But look at the Pluto. I'm the Mars in Cancer. He's fronted for a long time. He acts like he's 12 and like he doesn't care but at the least sign from me, he drops it and lets on that his feelings are deep.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 16446
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 22, 2015 08:00 PM
Impossible to see the aspects with the personals...too many aspects displayed...still it looks like a pretty good synastry...somewhere in that mess lol
If someone is out first, it would be the red, yes: Uranus in the opp and Pluto on IC in the sq. And the fact that red is 15 to 20 years younger could also be a problem, different generations.
Anyway, sorry for your troubles. It looks like a good synastry, so there are good chances of reconciliation 
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stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 22, 2015 08:43 PM
Pluto in the 'Opp'. Pluto on the IC 'in the square'. I'm confused about what you mean there. Can you please explain?
Edit: Oh, you mean squaring venus and mars?IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 24, 2015 08:47 PM
LeeLoo, anybody,...please? Need to know asap. Have to make a move soon. What about the angles, the pof, the saturn? I've overheard conversations where his stupid friend is telling him to keep his resolve and he says he's TRYING, LOL, so it can't be my imagination.IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 24, 2015 11:22 PM
help, pleaseIP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 16446
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 25, 2015 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Pluto in the 'Opp'. Pluto on the IC 'in the square'. I'm confused about what you mean there. Can you please explain?
Edit: Oh, you mean squaring venus and mars?
Yes, that sq but the charts don't show what you two will decide about your relationship I hope you reconcile  ------------------
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stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 25, 2015 10:42 AM
Thank you, but all that Saturn and Pluto don't suggest it might hang on a little longer than this? IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 57877
From: Saturn next to Charmaine
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2015 06:53 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
Moderator Posts: 5528
From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 05:55 AM
If he isn't being genuine, move on. In time, you'll only begrudge yourself for time wasted on people who were never invested as you were. At the end of the day 'what he really feels' is meaningless unless supported by, and demonstrated through, his actions. Nothing else legitimises. You're worthy of a true love that values and celebrates you; emotional games only demean and manipulate. It isn't worth the futility or struggle. Once you lose your taste for drama and tire of playing detective to your objet d'affection's fickle desires, real love will locate and embrace you joyfully. I hope future happiness finds you, sooner as opposed to later.  Good luck. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 10:09 AM
I came here for thoughtful astrology not more canned clichet biased, preconcieved, let it go, move on, he's not that into you honey, bullsh-t. Thank you. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 740
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 11:02 AM
I can tell you that angry energy isn't going to bring him back, as the force of your Mars may deeply offend his intimately placed Pluto.However, this is a particularly potent moment for your relationship. Your composite moon at 0 Aries and composite Pluto opposite in the first degrees of Libra are being activated by this Eclipse. The transiting North Node, Sun and Juno are conjunct your Libran Pluto while the SuperBloodTotalCrazyMoon is conjunct your Moon. Your relationship is strongly tuned to the polarity of individuation and cooperation. Emotionally the relationship is extremely tuned to the tension between the two. Given that the moon is so headstrong in Aries, there is a LOT of energy available as a result of your interactions; but that energy may go into the drive for self-assertion, and at this time, negatively, due to the transiting South Node, selfishness. Somehow the two of you are being challenged to look at how the depths of your relationship can be activated by acknowledgment of your differences a willingness to negotiate diplomatically to reach a state of relative harmony. This could take the form of understanding that BOTH people's **stated** needs and desires must be fully taken into account by each party. Easier said than done, and it sounds disarmingly simple. But I can see in your interactions with others on this post that you are very much tuning into the lunar energy of your relationship at this time, and allowing it to manifest as the kind of headstrong self-involvement which is being strongly advised against by the heavens at this particular time. Your best bet is to recognize the benevolence of the universe in pointing your way so clearly, towards reconciliation of differing viewpoints through the power of unconditional love and respect for the uniqueness and gifts of others. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 740
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 11:30 AM
Of course your composite Venus is also kickin it with the Moon down in Aries-ville. I think the lessons of this relationship very much revolve around the tension between co-dependence and independence, and that honouring independence in a healthy way is absolutely key, no matter what "happens," this is something that can be explored by both of you. The temptation is for Pluto to try to force cooperation when the true enjoyment of the relationship requires respect for individuality. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 02:54 PM
Yeah, well, his Pluto has been trying to force me to trust him more and put myself out there but I'm afraid. He thinks I lied and that I talked bad about him behind his back and he still resents some things I said to him months ago. I had calmed down a lot and it's like he tried to pick up where I left off and started trying to start a fight over every little thing. He is acting very possessive over our 'business' and like he did the whole thing and can dictate everything. He's using that as leverage. He acts like the feelings are one sided but then privately he lets on that it's anything but, that it's deep for him. It's taken me MONTHS to actually see that and I still find it hard to believe I'm that important to him. He thinks I played him because I don't swear my undying love when we finally talked on the phone. I don't know if that's true after Thur before last though. I had written him a heart felt letter but before finding out his reaction, one of the two faced people whove been causing trouble, showed up, and I had also started my own version of our business using the name. I don't know how mad he is about that. I just finally snapped and showed him part of what I could do if I WAS trying to hurt him like he thinks I am but then I regret it. I didn't do it. I just showed him what I had. I think there's a lot of pride and face-saving with him and me too. It's like he felt rejected. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 16446
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 03:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Thank you, but all that Saturn and Pluto don't suggest it might hang on a little longer than this?
I already said it looks like a not so bad synastry, but try to post it without aspect lines to all as I suggested, so that we can all see the basic pattern, and this will probably bring more astrological replies about the strengths and weaknesses of this relationship. If you want my honest opinion about your last non-astrological post, I think it's very confused, and I also think using the name of a common business to launch your own is a bad move and a stab in the back. ------------------
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stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 03:33 PM
How so? We were just getting traction and I had done a LOT to make the busiiness AND promote him, so I don't see why I should walk away and let that be stolen from me so that I have to start over from scratch. That is not fair. It was a group effort but mainly us two so it isn't just myself that he's sort screwing out of it. I think I should still get the benefit of the name and the hits since it's so much of my work that's leading people to it.IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 03:53 PM
K, here, sorry, and thank you so much. 
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stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 03:59 PM
K, here, sorry, and thank you.
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yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 740
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 04:13 PM
I'm lookin at that yod, personally... Would we call it a yod still if it's created through synastric aspects? His Mars/Mercury is mighty confused about you... IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 04:16 PM
Yep, for sure, after that letter I wrote him, especially. I don't know. I just snapped. The pressure had built and built. I had just finally expressed naked feelings for him, almost everything he wanted to hear. I conceded that he might be the love of my life, that I had gotten off the phone because it was too raw, things like that. He was asking me about my feelings, why I wouldn't do something/tell him something he wanted me to, and I said that 'feelings have nothing to do with it' and having all that Taurus, I think he took it the opposite of the way I meant it and thought I was saying I didn't love him. I meant that it wouldn't matter how much I cared, I couldn't do it regardless. I have moon in aqua and a lot of Leo pride and Cancerian insecurity so I do tend to act kind of aloof to protect myself until I feel it's safe. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 06:42 PM
Wow, I don't know what to attribute it to exactly but I've felt a very unusual calm for the last several hours. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 740
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 07:30 PM
The self reflection which astrology helps us undertake can be very soothing... shows you're doing good work. Peace is the greatest... Blessings and clarity your way!IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: TX
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 27, 2015 09:05 PM
Yeah, full moons usually amp me up. What do you see it doing in his chart, please? I'm debating calling him later. IP: Logged |
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