posted October 02, 2015 02:33 PM            

The basic idea is to count the aspects to each planet in synastry and make up a list to see how active they are. Based on this list, you can see how "triggered" that planet is in your synastry. There are instances when one planet is underactive or overactive, if there is such a case.

IME, it's good to have them all active, especially personals, love rulers and angular planets. Overactive is not necessarily bad, unless there is some obvious imbalance there (ex. your Moon is overactive, theirs is underactive, which means your emotional response is always present and exacerbated, theirs is a bit "sleepy"). Underactive, IME, when it comes to personal planets, is not that good.
I will try to define what is activated for each planet.
I would start with a basic astro.com wheel with the planets (no asteroids) and aspect lines to angles and nodes. Basically standard astro.com wheel with "aspect lines to all". Then of course we should look at the energy added by asteroids, very important too. But this view offers a basic profile, it's like the skeleton of the chart on which we put some flesh.
I would count all the aspects visible in this chart: which means quincunxes and 8th harmonic too: semisq and sesquisquares, apparently they are very energizing (but first list and count the major aspects)

Mention rulership too. For example, we would like to see how active

Venus and 5th ruler are for the romance/attraction touch (at least a good part of it)

Sun Moon 7th ruler for the marital touch (basic relational compatibility)

Mars and 8th ruler for the erotic touch

ranging from overactive (a clear focus on that planet) to underactive (unaspected planet)

but an activated
Sun - also means the other feels their basic personality/ego/ability to shine are supported in the relationship; if it's too much, compared to other influences, it means their ego could be inflated and the attention is too much on them; they may be put on a pedestal and feel like a star all the time (while the other may feel overshadowed, if their Sun is underactive, for instance)

NOTE: people are usually attracted to those aspecting their Sun; not just attractive to them, but also attracted; Sun is the traditional ruler of the 5th house and someone touching our Sun makes us want to experience a Leo/5th house vibe with them; if the contact is not something we like to our Sun, we may feel dominated, overpowered, overshadowed, and we may resent and fight such an influence; an unaspected Sun makes us feel "backstage" with this person and we may try to compensate by attracting their attention somehow. But generally, we don't feel like we can shine in this relationship, we feel it's hard to be center stage in this relationship and our needs for expressing individuality, expansion, recognition, the ability to enjoy life may be stifled.

Moon - the need to express emotions, to be lunar with the person: emotional, establishing a close intimate connection, a "family, mother/child, parental" rapport; needs are expressed and met (if balance); being able to develop deep feelings for the person;
overactive (compared to the rest of the synastry): too emotional, too much focus on this person's needs; underactive: emotional distance, not opening up, feeling needs are not met, or, on the contrary, becoming very needy in an effort to overcompensate and attract attention to the unaspected Moon

Venus - simply liking and loving the person (love with the sense of like, especially); it can also be strong dislike, if Venus is overactive in the wrong way (wrong aspects) but generally it's the unaspected Venus (underactive) giving that; finding the person beautiful, appealing and according to our tastes; personal values seem to be emphasized and stimulated by the person; feeling beautiful and valuable in their presence; the other becomes valuable to us; feeling affectionate and loving in their presence and they become the object of such an affection

Mars: feeling attracted, stimulated, activated, more aggressive in a good sense in the other's presence; experiencing a sense of drive, motivation, purpose, impetus for action; strong sexual attraction; ranging from feeling overaggressive to feeling under-stimulated (or erratic aggression due to over-compensation)

I'll complete the list later, I was just giving the basic examples.

For now, an honorary mention to Saturn: active Saturn means triggering that person's serious side and the desire to commit to this relationship, to take it seriously; underactive, no such desire; overactive (if there is a clear focus on this Saturn), the person could feel and become too much of the "wise old man" in this relationship; too controlling, rigid, critical, parental; too insecure.

The desire to commit and take this relationship to some depths is also completed by Pluto being activated in a way that is harmonious to natal Pluto and other factors; I'll get back to this, for an overactivated Pluto may also trigger intense rejection and repulsion.

EDIT: include Q and BQ too for now, if you believe in them...I do but it would be added energy, just like with those 8th harmonics, I presume

Although I think we need to discuss this: why would quintiles (5th ahrmonic) be less stronger or less important than sextiles (6th harmonic)? considering a circle is dividable by 5
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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 02, 2015 02:46 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 02, 2015 03:35 PM            

It's clear that people feel too when they make aspects to our angles ( direct contact to ASC and MC in particular, but if they feel that, they are touching IC/DSC too, although those two are generally receptive for the angle bearer, in my view, like a reflection from the proactive points) however, another point of discussion, a classical one in fact, is: do they feel, in their planet, when they touch our NN? or we are the only ones feeling the aspect

In my synastry

basic planetary profile

I am tempted to look at planet vs planet, or maybe ruler vs ruler too

my SUN (7th ruler)

6 aspects

opp Sun
sextile Moon
sq Saturn
sq MC
sq NN
conj ASC

his SUN (11th ruler)

7 aspects

opp Sun
trine MC
sextile ASC
sq NN
trine Saturn
conj Jupiter
BQ Moon

my MOON

3 aspects (but inclined to add the Q too, I'm very fond of quintiles lol) so let's say 6

opp Venus
sq Moon
semisquare Pluto
Q Mars
BQ Sun
Q Uranus

his MOON (true MC ruler, intercepted)

8 aspects

sextile Sun
sq Moon
conj MC
sextile ASC
trine Jupiter
trine Saturn
semisq Mars
Q Venus

I think I can notice here, as an example, a Moon being very active in a relationship, maybe a bit overactive, due to its interception and the connection with Pluto conj his ASC *it's a Scorpio Moon)it may not be a bad thing; as a downside, it could lead sometimes to being overemotional, but we'd rather like that, wouldn't we? at least I do, people liking something "cooler" may not, for this also means over-triggering the proverbial possessiveness, jealousy, clingy, suspicious, gloomy etc. side of a Scorpio Moon.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 02, 2015 04:05 PM            

Also, if one of the planets receives a lot of aspects and most of the aspects are difficult, it will inevitable break at one point. It needs to be balanced somehow.

posted October 02, 2015 04:23 PM            

But the other scenario, the first, does happen a lot with any planet: a simple lack of activation of the planet: Moon - I don't feel emotionally involved here; Venus - I don't feel affection or I may not even like the person, I dislike them; Mars - I am not sexually attracted; not motivated to do things with this person.

But just as often the second scenario happens too: the needs of my planet are not met in this relationship.

Going beyond DWs with this analysis (listing and counting the aspects and pondering on their importance, which is not in just the number), you may discover interesting things, such as an overactive or very active planet which wasn't obvious at first glance. You can also see what are the buttons always on "red" when this person is with you (the more aspects a planet receives, the more red), what is buzzing for them in your interaction.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 02, 2015 04:32 PM            

BTW, why your nickname? it's funny how it fits the situation

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 02, 2015 04:52 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 02, 2015 05:07 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I was looking at your synastry, Downtomars, as an example to explain how the interaction is "colored" by a dominant planet, and there are 6 major aspects to your Mars, at first glance, and only a max of 2-3 to the rest of the planets, for both sides, in the synastry. Your interaction is heavily colored by your Mars, when you are with him, your Mars is on quasi-constant red light, you feel it, and so does he (which means you will be perceived mostly through your Mars)

BTW, why your nickname? it's funny how it fits the situation

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I was thinking about my nickname as I read your posts! I actually got it from a song, but it applies. My favorite aspect in my natal chart is my exact Moon-Mars trine. I don't know why either, I just like it a lot.

Yeah, the man and I were really active together. We were out all day and all night and we did lots of Mar-sy stuff together (guns, cars, construction). But, I guess that isn't enough to sustain a relationship. Oh yeah, plus we couldn't keep our hands off of each other. But, it all changed in a flash (I am blaming Uranus for that!)...

posted October 02, 2015 05:12 PM            

Aries man's Venus is the most activated planet in his chart in the synastry. Most of the aspects are 0' in orbit.

posted October 02, 2015 05:37 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Give it more time. Maybe it's not over yet Moon Pluto often bounce back together.

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posted October 03, 2015 09:10 AM            

Smaller the divisor, more powerful the aspect. In order: 1,2,3,4,5,6. So, quintile encompasses more real time than sextile.

However, division of cycle by 6 harmonically resonates with powerful opposition and trine aspects. Sextile is a component of 6 pointed Grand Sextile (Star of David). And of formations with 5, 4, 3, and 2 points, 60 degrees apart.

posted October 03, 2015 10:26 AM            

On topic:

posted October 03, 2015 10:36 AM            

He tells me he has never felt this deeply for someone. He can't explain why, but he knows how strongly he feels for me. We have tons of aspects between our personal planets, but here's my sun/moon list to follow along with LeeLoo's example:

My Sun (3rd ruler)

Conjunct his moon
Conjunct his mercury
Conjunct venus
Sesquisquare Saturn
Biquintile Uranus
Trine Neptune
Opposite Pluto
Quincunx AC
Trine MC

His sun, mentioned above, but rules his 10th.

My moon (rules 1st and 2nd)

Quincunx his mercury
Quincunx his Venus
Squares mars
Trines jupiter
Sextiles his saturn
Semisquare Neptune
Quintile his MC

His Moon (rules 9th)

Conjuncts my sun
Conjuncts my mercury
Semisquares my mars
Squares my jupiter
Semisquares Saturn
Opposite Uranus
Squares my AC
Semisextils my MC

Honestly, I didn't think he would fall so hard for me at first, given that he has few aspects from his sun to my planets, but perhaps the overlay to his 7th house makes up for it? Not sure, all I know is that he feels a strong bond to me, and I to him.

posted October 03, 2015 11:38 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Faith:
I have moon conjunct Pluto with my husband...'been together 17 years...we fight sometimes, but it's like, there is no escape.

On topic:

This is a fascinating theory, if I'm understanding it right. All my planets are active and have oodles of aspects, so I get exhausted thinking of counting them all. But I will keep it in mind when looking at other synastries.

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HAHA

posted October 03, 2015 12:03 PM            

my Sun
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square his ASC
conjunct his MC
conjunct his Sun
conjunct his Moon
square his Saturn
conjunct his Neptune (5°28)

my Moon
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trine his Pluto
(sextile his Neptune 3°20)

my Mercury
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square his ASC
conjunct his MC
square his Saturn
conjunct his Sun
conjunct his Moon
conjunct his Neptune

my Venus
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trine his Mars
trine his Jupiter

my Mars
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(square his Mars 5°55)
conjunct his Merucry
square his Jupiter
semisquare his Pluto

my Jupiter
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quintile his MC
quintile his Moon
semisquare his Venus
opposite his Mars
opposite his Jupiter
square his Mercury

my Saturn
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square his Pluto

my ASC
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square his Mars
square his Jupiter
conjunct his Mercury
square his Jupiter
semisquare his Pluto

my MC
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nothing. lol

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his Sun
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conjunct my Sun
conjunct my Mercury

his Moon
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conjunct my Sun
conjunct my Mercury
quintile my Jupiter
sextile my Uranus

his Mercury
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conjunct my ASC
conjunct my Mars
conjunct my Neptune
square my Jupiter
sextile my Pluto

his Venus
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(square my Uranus 5°26)
semisquare my jupiter
semisquare my Neptune

his Mars
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square my ASC
trine my Venus
opposite my Jupiter
square my Neptune

his Jupiter
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square my ASC
square my Mars
square my Neptune
trine my Venus
opposite my Jupiter

his Saturn
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square my Sun
square my Mercury
(quintile my Neptune 1°14)

his ASC
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square my Sun
square my Mercury
biquintile my Uranus 0°01 lol

posted October 03, 2015 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I think the double whammies is one of the first thing to consider. It ignites the targeted planets tenfold and is very noticeable. It's like the chart starts revolving around them because it is a back and forth energy on an equal level.

Also, if one of the planets receives a lot of aspects and most of the aspects are difficult, it will inevitable break at one point. It needs to be balanced somehow.

The unaspected planet situation doesn't mean the energy of the unaspected planet is not there. It is, but there is no reception to it from the other party, or the other party simply don't understand it. For example with me and Scorpio - his Moon is unaspected by me. It doesn't mean he is unemotional with me. He is, in fact very much so, to the point it repulses me sometimes. His unaspected Moon means I simply don't understand his emotions and I can't provide the care that he craves.
The victim is not the one who does not aspect the other planet, it's the person with the unaspected planet who suffers because it is misunderstood and the energy remains unproperly channeled. I have heard people say stuff like - "oh, his Venus is unaspected, that means he doesn't love you. " Not really. Most of the time, the person with the unaspected Venus is the one who can't find an outlet of their love. What they do to show their love, the way they show their love - is not met with appreciation from the partner or not even noticed. And over time, yes, the Venus being rejected so many times it starts to hide it or stops trying, and then the relationship detoriates.

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Orange, when you mention a unaspected venus in synastry. What do you really mean by unaspected? like NO HARD aspects (conjunction,opposition,square) contacting other person's planet's angles, midpoints, cusps etc.?

posted October 03, 2015 02:14 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by angel4845:
Orange, when you mention a unaspected venus in synastry. What do you really mean by unaspected? like NO HARD aspects (conjunction,opposition,square) contacting other person's planet's angles, midpoints, cusps etc.?

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angel,

unaspected in a way that Venus does not and is not able to receive or emit energy because it is not connected to someone else's planets in synastry.
It just stays there alone, like a fat kid in the school's cafeteria.

posted October 03, 2015 02:36 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Orange:
angel,

unaspected in a way that Venus does not and is not able to receive or emit energy because it is not connected to someone else's planets in synastry.
It just stays there alone, like a fat kid in the school's cafeteria.

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LOL

well that sucks my girlfriend's venus is unaspected, the only aspect she is getting is a BQ on my mercury and a TRINE on my ascendant and conjunct exact my 9th house cusp. pooooopy. even though she expresses her love to me like crazy on a regular basis but at the same time she feels like i won't believe that she loves me so deeply which is why sometimes she has a hard time telling me at times that i' m the best girl she's ever dated in her life....yet she has told me that before lots of times.

I can totally see and feel her super intense 8th house venus in taurus though (gotta admit). It's so visible you CANT miss it.

posted October 03, 2015 02:38 PM            

Your students are so lucky to have you for a teacher. Ah, you make me miss art history classes, too!

For some reason I was thinking we were supposed to count our natal aspects first, then do the synastry.

So an unaspected planet in the natal won't be as potent in synastry as a super-connected one. (?) That was my assumption.

But I see that was off track.

I know my husband's sun and moon receive a lot more aspects from my planets than vice versa. Just off the top of my head, without tracking the Qs and BQs and other little cords of attraction:

His sun: opposing my Mercury, trine my Venus, trine my Lilith, square my Uranus, sextile my Pluto, sextile my Psyche.

His moon: aspects all those same planets because it is sextile his sun.

Whereas none of his planets form major aspects with my sun or moon. His SN almost exactly trine my sun; his NN trine my moon, though.

Well you can see why I'm screaming....

posted October 03, 2015 02:53 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Of course, the number is NOT everything. Some aspects may have more power than others, such as a luminary to luminary aspect, or a luminary conj an angle. Counting the aspects is just one basic level. It will help you identify, however, the degree of mutual balance in your synastry or the lack of it; also, overactive or underactive planets, which may not be obvious at first glance, for some people.

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LeeLoo,

I would LOVE to make a REQUEST for you to explain personal planets conjunct the house cusp's that would be amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!