posted October 12, 2015 01:38 PM            

Synsatry:

posted October 14, 2015 06:30 AM              

His DESC-pattern is pretty Plutonic/ Scorpionic, and you aren`t that.
One could argue that the opposition to your Moon-Mars in Taurus must be very magnetic and attractive, but apparently it does not work like it for him. possibly BECAUSE you do not have personal planets in Scorpio or conjunct Pluto.

his Venus in Taurus might resonate subztly with your Moon in Taurus, but without strong aspects it seems to not be strong enough. The sextile to Mercury is not enough.

his 5th house ruler is in Gemini, but you do not have that strong Gemini-Mercury-vibe that would set his heart pitter-patter.

The Mars-Venus-conjunction looks potentially very very sexy, however, if you have a closer look, his Mars is hardly connected to his relationship houses. it is in 3rd house conjunct Mercury, ruling hte 12th house.

Still this one DOES look really sparkly, is he interested in a friendship with you at least?

and then the comparision with the composite.

his Venus is not aligned with any of the composite planets (conj. / opp.)

his Sun seems to be conjunct c-Venus, which actually should be a strong attraction-factor, with his Sun ruling 5th house. maybe the quinkunx to c-Saturn means the timing is off.

There is no alignment to his DESC-ruler Pluto from the ocmposite either though.

not sure about the orb, but your synastric Mars-Venus-conjunction seems to fall onto the c-IC, is that right? What orb is that?
Maybe the opposition to Uranus or Neptune or SAturn (depending on the orb) makes things difficult.

Nevertheless, what I think is the culprit here is his Venus and DESC-ruler which are not strongly activated (except for the sextile to your Mercury, which is nice, but more like communication-friendship-nice), so even if you did spark interest in him, he might not view you as "serious partner-material" (which we find in the pattern of the DESC usually).

His Moon isn`t really touched by the composite either, so the composite does not activate either his Venus or Moon.
Well at least his Moon gets some nice aspects to your chart (trine your Sun-Venus I believe?). But apparently again, it`s not enough of a draw. (personally I have found trines to be a real draw only, if a) there was natal resonance or b) they were part of a larger pattern, like a Gt or Kite, though even if not, they ARE nice aspects, just "nice" usually does not compell anyone to fall in love, though it helps with staying together because of the comfort it provides, once an initial spark was there. ).

posted October 14, 2015 07:15 AM              

Problems here, apart from what Ceri says, I see in his Venus which seems to be peregrine and here mildly aspected,

no personal aspects to Saturn and he has a Sun/Saturn opp, that's an overwhelming aspect, it probably likes mutable Moons or ASC, and this fits his interception. You have a Pisces ASC, so it seems, are you sure of it? still, it's out of orb for his opposition and while the 12th house overlay resonates with his interception, I would have liked more planets of yours in it.

His Uranus MC ruler unaspected too. Might give a sense of "no future" for him, or he knows or plans to change his current environment (such as working abroad) and he feels you're not supporting this.

and the composite....not great at all, IMO; basically chart ruler Mars and DSC ruler Venus and Moon are almost unaspected. I would have included that wide sextile if there were some Minor Triangle, or other aspects. In the composite, I like to see at least on tight aspect to the planet in order to consider the wider one. The tight aspects make sure the composite is possible; than based on that, we can consider the wide ones too as coming into play at some point. But just wide aspects are usually a sign the thing is not going to happen, Venus and Mars here are ungrounded.
EDIT: it seems quincunxes don't have this power to connect in first stages, rather to spice up connections already there; in other words, if it's just a quincunx, it could create erratic energy only, which is not good as glue factor

Still, the synastry is not bad,and neither are the composite to synastry superpositions.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted October 14, 2015 08:19 AM            

I like the formation in your synastry - that's pretty big, actually. Something powerful connecting you two, even if a relationship isn't possible right now.

The 3rd house focus in your composite is what my eyes fell on first - that's a bit of a confusing house to focus so much energy in. To me that jumps out as maybe one of you (or, both of you over time) being seen as a brother or sister type. Maybe one of those reallyyy close bonds that turns into more of a platonic - I -see-you-as-my-sister kinda thing? Especially with neptune opp venus. I find neptune messes with the minds of both parties when it's playing a big role, especially early on.

posted October 14, 2015 08:58 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In addition to what Ceri says, it doesn't look THAT unrequited.

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Yes, that on second glance actually hit me, too. Is it REALLY unrequited? Or is it a case of existent attraction but making a deliberate choice to NOT act on it (maybe he is already in a relationship?)? HOW is it unrequited? Just certain parts? Or is it a case of "the timing is off"?

In fact it could happen, that the most beautiful synastry is not in play, because the progressions or major transits do not activate it.
The more I study astrology, the more I come to see that it seems like synastry must be ACTIVATED, by progressions and transits.
Somehow you gotta have both, the fitting basis synastry AND the activation through progressed charts.

posted October 14, 2015 09:13 AM              

"no personal aspects to Saturn and he has a Sun/Saturn opp, that's an overwhelming aspect,"
LOL
I managed to miss that! But you are completely right. If there is such a strong aspects involving the luminaries or Venus or mars, there should be resonance in the synastry.
Or else the connection might feel "off" to the person.

"His Uranus MC ruler unaspected too. Might give a sense of "no future" for him"
That is actually something I´ve come to consider more and more. Even if the feelings are there, if the "life-plans" do not harmonize, a relationship will probably not work out or demand too many compromises. I could imagine this is why the MC and MC-ruler aspects in synastry are not to be underestimated. It of course also bears meaning on making things "official".

"The tight aspects make sure the composite is possible; than based on that, we can consider the wide ones too as coming into play at some point. But just wide aspects are usually a sign the thing is not going to happen, Venus and Mars here are ungrounded."

I see it the same way.

"EDIT: it seems quincunxes don't have this power to connect in first stages, "
I agree on the erratic factor. This seems to be especially true for an isolated quinkunx. Somehow this is very different from having a Yod, possibly due to the lack of the second leg and basic sextile that brings more stability into that aspect. a quinkunx on its own is more like an unpredictable swing, introducing a lot of up-and-down and insecurities. Like you try to walk on a ground that constantly moves but you never know into which direction.

posted October 14, 2015 09:15 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, you are right, Ceri, thank you, I wrongly wrote DSC. I meant his 5th house, not DSC...Virgo is entirely in his 5th and it gets more important with age, so Mercury is his primary 5th ruler; he also has a Gem Sun, and Mercury conj Mars, so I am surprised he won't like your Sun/Venus there at all.

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posted October 14, 2015 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In fact it could happen, that the most beautiful synastry is not in play, because the progressions or major transits do not activate it.
The more I study astrology, the more I come to see that it seems like synastry must be ACTIVATED, by progressions and transits.
Somehow you gotta have both, the fitting basis synastry AND the activation through progressed charts.

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And please let Venus be into play.

Current intense romantic example of mine (not unrequited),

We have a Venus/Venus trine by 1 deg. in synastry.

His progressed Sun is now applying;
- sextile to his natal Venus (by minutes)
- sextile to my natal Venus (by 1 deg)

This is noticeable as his progressed Sun applying conjunct to our Composite natal Venus.

^ It doesn't have to be a ptolemaic aspect.
So, recommended here is to look at Venus in any chart. Otherwise we might miss the "less Obvious resonance" ("minors") between Venus and the Sun or Mars.

EDIT@ now I think about it...

His Venus trine my Venus and trine my Jupiter/Neptune and opp. my Pluto. (synastry)

Kite ^.

posted October 15, 2015 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by PiscesCancerTaurus:
So here is the story. This person came up to me out of nowhere and said instantly that we are best friends. This was like 7 months ago. I pushed away hard because I had closed myself off due to a previous heartbreak. This person kept pushing and pushing for like 3 months they just kept saying we are friends and we will be together forever. Finally, I just gave in and opened myself up to them. It has been beautiful ever since. He is constantly taking me out to dinner and inviting me to do things with him and go places. He keeps saying I love you to me. He likes to give me hugs and gets really excited when I give him a hug. I think he gets so happy because I seem like a cold person who doesn't like to be touched. Which is the way I act towards people I don't know. Anyway, I say unrequited love because I have fallen in love with him but I don't think he loves me the same way. I just wanted to know what in the chart would show this.

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posted October 15, 2015 12:56 AM            

One of the main differences between comparing charts and reading composite charts has to do with the fact that the composite chart is the chart of a couple--it represents the relationship as a unit. Comparing charts, on the other hand, involves comparing the different energies of two charts point by point.

Another way to look at it involves viewing the composite chart as the "final outcome" of the relationship.

Take, for example, a situation in which hard aspects of Neptune are present in the chart comparison of a couple, but Neptune is not similarly strong in the composite chart. Issues regarding disillusionments and/or deceptions will be a part of the relationship, but won't be a deciding factor when it comes to the viability of the partnership.

If hard aspects of Neptune figure strongly in the composite chart and not in the chart comparison, on the other hand, difficult Neptunian themes may seem to erupt out of nowhere and become a major factor with regard to the viability or outcome of the relationship.

In some cases we find, for example, mutual hard aspects between each person's Venus and Mars in chart comparison. In the composite chart, however, there is a Venus-Mars harmonious trine. In a situation such as this one, sexual tension represented by the Venus-Mars hard interchart aspects is most certainly present in the relationship. However, overall, the couple finds creative solutions to the tension. It is unlikely that the challenges created by the interchart aspects will reign in the partnership. Overall, both individuals will find the relationship largely satisfying on romantic and sexual levels. If the couple were to break up, the tensions created by the hard Venus-Mars aspects wouldn't be a factor in the separation. In fact, the composite Venus-Mars trine could be one factor that keeps them together.

posted October 15, 2015 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Piscean Tigress:
Try with Ophelia asteroid in your synastry, this asteroid is related to unrequited love

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Also check out Daphne and Apollo together:

posted October 15, 2015 04:50 AM              

this is actually a sweet story, and I don`t get the feeling of unrequited love (yet).Well you know he cares for you a lot, you just don`t know if it is romantic or not. You can`t say if it is unrequited or requited yet, to me it sounds more like your fear it might be unrequited and you rather want to prepare for the worst (that he doesn`t feel romantically about you). But the thing is you probably will have to talk with him to figure that out. (and I know that this is a hard thing to do; I did the same thing as you did btw, simply assuming something was unrequited, and then later it turned out it might actually have not been that unrequited after all - though I have still no clue how much of a chance we would have had, just that I had been deceiving myself into believing he was not affected at all - and well I opted for the defensive stubborn thinkin it had to be unrequited and kept my head persistently in the sand. Yay me. What I want to say is, you have a beautiful connection and friendship, why not simply let it evolve the way it does, and maybe if the time is right, having a talk about your feelings. Yes, it could be, he does not reciprocrate romantically, but what if he does and noone speaks up? Do you want to let the chance for a happy relationship pass out of fear of rejection?)

Just my thoughts on this, and they come from my own experience, as I am having a habit to do so, letting the fear of rejection (or sometimes I suspect I fear even more to not be rejected. lol) or change win out, to my own detriment of course.

posted October 15, 2015 04:52 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Often, themes in a chart comparison (synastry) repeat in a composite chart reading. However, there are times when strong themes don't repeat.

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That is actually not true. Strong themes ALWAYS reflect in the composite. I am talking about aspect-themes here btw. Not sign or house emphasis.
But the strong aspectual themes in natal or synastry will always show up in composite in one way or the other as well.
That is due to the mathematics that is behind the construction of composites.

posted October 15, 2015 05:00 AM              

if Neptune is strong in the composite and it does not seem strong in the natal or synastry, then this is because it is probably a "hidden" aspect. There is an aspect at the bottom of it, but we aren`t aware of it, cause it might not be one of the BIG ones, like conjunction, opposition, square or trine for example.
On its own it might just be a subtle humming in the background, but if we meet the right partner with whom the aspect pattern connects in such a parallel or complimentary way that Neptune becomes very visible in the composite, it means that the shared connection, the relationship itself, brings out that hidden resonance in quite remarkable ways. But it can only do that, because there is already an -at least subtle- resonance to the natal or synastry, and the composite acts here as some sort of Megaphone, increasing the intensity or loudness of that resonance.