posted October 16, 2015 07:01 PM            

How can a person have such a strong effect on another?
I am in shock and disbelief at how this person moves me completely, to the point I feel with out him and me at peace, makes life meaningless.

I am a realistic kind of person, I dont just feel like this about people, I am not obsessed nor deluded. I can't understand this crazy thing, that never leaves me, since we met, when I can not connect with him, the suffering I endure to be with him gets stronger, even though we have never been together because time sets us apart, we are never in synch, but we have such a strong effect on each other when we meet in time. The need to be connected to him feels like part of my life. I can't forget about him now he is gone, otherwise I'll be meaningless, he was once in my life before and then gone for a year, then we met again and now we are set apart.

The cycle is never ending. He inspires life in me, whispers my soul awake.

posted October 16, 2015 07:10 PM            

When you 'meet in time'? You have a strong effect 'on each other'? But you've never actually been together? How is he 'gone' now?

posted October 16, 2015 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You're also being extremely vague.

When you 'meet in time'? You have a strong effect 'on each other'? But you've never actually been together? How is he 'gone' now?

A bit less poetry and more facts, please. If you want answers. Otherwise, this seems more like emotional expression than serious enquiry. Rhetoric.

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meet in time, apart of each others lives usually through social circles.

strong effect - enhanced creativity, protective of each other. bounce off each other. caring feelings.

posted October 16, 2015 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Sounds like a lot of NEPTUNE.

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posted October 16, 2015 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by LilithEarthAngel:
meet in time, apart of each others lives usually through social circles.

strong effect - enhanced creativity, protective of each other. bounce off each other. caring feelings.

We are in two completely different worlds, going in two very opposite directions. that's what I mean by set apart by time.

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Still very ambiguous. Make it plain.

posted October 16, 2015 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Still very ambiguous. Make it plain.

How do you know the effect you have upon him? Has he stated this to you? When you do encounter one another at social gatherings, how does it go? Do you stay in touch afterwards? Also, how is he 'gone now'?

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posted October 19, 2015 09:44 PM            

Heehee...

But I'm wondering--are you wanting us to guess what houses and planets are participating in these dynamics? I understand if so why Auby is asking for more clarification in terms of what is going on and what the dynamic looks like, in more descriptive terms...

posted October 20, 2015 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
She has Moon-Uranus and Mercury in Scorpio I believe. It might be the Virgo asc. and Libra Sun, Pluto and Lilith you're hearing here as well... I wouldn't put it all down to poor ol Scorpio!

Heehee...

But I'm wondering--are you wanting us to guess what houses and planets are participating in these dynamics? I understand if so why Auby is asking for more clarification in terms of what is going on and what the dynamic looks like, in more descriptive terms...

It very likely is frameable in astrological terms even though it feels very much outside the realm of astrology--astrology is pretty amazing that way.. it's harder to discuss astrology without a chart to look at.

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Haha! Oh I see. It's just I have my N.node in Scorpio, that's why I was wondering. Interesting.

Thank you so much for your reply, a lot of what your saying makes sense.

How am I able to link the composite chart to this post?

It's true, he has activated some thing in my chart. I tried to tell him this but he didn't respond. I have always felt like he hasn't shared the same experience as me, Venus/Neptune? but he himself interlocks with it in some way mars/neptune?, (this is why he spoke to me a lot, everyday, I know otherwise he wouldnt, there was something fantastical about the friendship which we shared, and the profound feelings we could inspire within each other just being ourselves made him want to keep in touch with me) (my merc in his 9th exact) but I never fit in with his standard, especially in a social sense, which is so important to him. I couldn't give him any security in that sense, as he goes with girls who are inspiring to others and are of equal social standard as him. In which I am not, I am more of an outcast, rebel against any kind of social group, authority (etc), and I am very isolated. Where as he has quite a powerful effect on others, he is one of the main dudes who inspires others to strive for there dreams and be creative, unique, like he does, he is ambitious and travels too. So we are so different but there was just some thing so caring in the way we felt about one and other. Maybe he thinks I have great potential or some thing, as I am a creative person, just not ambitious about it.

posted October 20, 2015 07:14 AM            

This is funny, when we didn't see each other for more than a year,
I was at a friends house, whom he knew, and he has just come back from a festival and stayed at the house before heading back to the city where he lived,
I knew he was down stairs so I didn't go down for hours, because I knew my whole body would be shaking when I saw him again. When I did go down eventually and my body was shaking, and he looked quite astounded to see me, I sat on the sofa casually, and he came to sit on the other sofa next to me, and he ended up sitting on a guy who was sleeping on the sofa, hahaha. So he sat beside me and we spoke a bit, I was totally jittery the whole time he was there.

posted October 20, 2015 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Any 8th house placements?

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In composite -
Juno, Chiron, Eros in the 8th.

posted October 20, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
((sorry if i misrepresented you Auby, or misinterpreted Lilith's intentions when inquiring about how Scorpionic you are--when I field questions about Scorpio I'm maybe a tad over defensive!))

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posted October 20, 2015 05:36 PM            

That's why it all feels rather vague and confusing, and very subject to interpretation and fantasy. It seems to me that you're making a lot of assumptions regarding something which is completely unconfirmed. Are you communicating through the dreamstate with each other? Maybe. Who can say?

Nonetheless, I've been through something a bit similar to what you're describing, which, at the time, seemed like the be-all, end-all, full stop. It wasn't. 75% of it was fantasy, which, I'll admit, was probably co-created -- at least the parts which I know happened between us here. But no actual relationship ever came to be, and we both saddled each other with too many expectations.

Here's my best advice. Stop fantasising and acting like something is happening when there's no evidence of it outside of your malleable memory and fantastic thoughts. Get real.

If you want a relationship with this person, pursue it. If he's not interested, then drop it and move on. But attaching so many -- albeit lovely -- ideas like, 'believing in love when he's around' -- is dangerous, and downright foolish.

If you want to attach so many ideals to someone of flesh and blood, make it you.

I suggest you stop saying 'we' because this is hiding behind what is likely a fabrication until further notice. It also allows you to continue nurturing this 'dream relationship' as opposed to taking a chance on an actual relationship.

Until you're really connecting in reality, you have nothing. Really. Nothing. I know that seems harsh, and blame the post-tSATURN-MOON me for being a cold shower and parade-rain, but I speak from hard experience on that one.

Now, however, I DO have an actually inexplicable, crazy, dream-connexion, astral-bound, relationship here in the physical present, with a man who actually attests to the same. It's remarkable, and SO much better than the fantasy with which I was deluding myself, out of loneliness, fear, and a desperate need to feel as if my life had greater meaning and destiny. So I unconsciously took what was the closest thing to realising that and infused it with powerful fantasy. He did, too, JUST enough to allow me to keep dreaming, too. That allowed me to perpetuate the fantasy for years.

But reality is actually better. It's tough some days, and at certain points -- even feels unbearable. But it's real.

posted October 20, 2015 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
As to your situation, it's interesting you mention Scorpio -- as Yun's said, yes, I've got plenty of it. Namely, tSATURN was on my MERC, and then my MOON, from 2012 until recently. Prior to this, I was a bit more 'understanding' in regards to stated otherworldly, intangible connexions. Afterwards ... not so much. I seek proof. Now, before you say, 'but that's impossible!' Ah-hah! No. It isn't. So, my standards are higher, and I demand more from such statements.

That's why it all feels rather vague and confusing, and very subject to interpretation and fantasy. It seems to me that you're making a lot of assumptions regarding something which is completely unconfirmed. Are you communicating through the dreamstate with each other? Maybe. Who can say?

Nonetheless, I've been through something a bit similar to what you're describing, which, at the time, seemed like the be-all, end-all, full stop. It wasn't. 75% of it was fantasy, which, I'll admit, was probably co-created -- at least the parts which I know happened between us here. But no actual relationship ever came to be, and we both saddled each other with too many expectations.

Here's my best advice. Stop fantasising and acting like something is happening when there's no evidence of it outside of your malleable memory and fantastic thoughts. Get real.

If you want a relationship with this person, pursue it. If he's not interested, then drop it and move on. But attaching so many -- albeit lovely -- ideas like, 'believing in love when he's around' -- is dangerous, and downright foolish.

If you want to attach so many ideals to someone of flesh and blood, make it you.

I suggest you stop saying 'we' because this is hiding behind what is likely a fabrication until further notice. It also allows you to continue nurturing this 'dream relationship' as opposed to taking a chance on an actual relationship.

Until you're really connecting in reality, you have nothing. Really. Nothing. I know that seems harsh, and blame the post-tSATURN-MOON me for being a cold shower and parade-rain, but I speak from hard experience on that one.

Now, however, I DO have an actually inexplicable, crazy, dream-connexion, astral-bound, relationship here in the physical present, with a man who actually attests to the same. It's remarkable, and SO much better than the fantasy with which I was deluding myself, out of loneliness, fear, and a desperate need to feel as if my life had greater meaning and destiny. So I unconsciously took what was the closest thing to realising that and infused it with powerful fantasy. He did, too, JUST enough to allow me to keep dreaming, too. That allowed me to perpetuate the fantasy for years.

But reality is actually better. It's tough some days, and at certain points -- even feels unbearable. But it's real.

And my Virgo rising and VENUS are totally down with [b]real! [/B]

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posted October 20, 2015 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Auby,

That's a great advice. I needed to hear it today

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I'm so glad. We really are all in this together, and it's these little 'synchronicities' that remind me of that.

posted October 20, 2015 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm so glad. We really are all in this together, and it's these little 'synchronicities' that remind me of that.

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