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Topic: When perfect synastry is...wrong :O !!!
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Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 10:16 AM
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Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 1427 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted October 21, 2015 10:23 AM
Posting the synastry wheel from astro.com would be very helpful.------------------ Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 10:25 AM
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Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 1427 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted October 21, 2015 10:27 AM
This site http://www.astro.com/ They have wheels easier to read.------------------ Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 10:34 AM
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Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 1427 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted October 21, 2015 11:17 AM
I think your impression could have something to do with the 12th house activity. Btw, your synastry may be playing out but simply not the way you expect it to. Overlays and aspects can manifest themselves multiple ways. Also, not knowing his TOB isn't helping with deciphering things. He does have Gemini planets including Mercury but if they're in the 12th or 4th this could change a lot. Or he's simply quiet with YOU. Maybe you intimidate him. ------------------ Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: I think your impression could have something to do with the 12th house activity. Btw, your synastry may be playing out but simply not the way you expect it to. Overlays and aspects can manifest themselves multiple ways. Also, not knowing his TOB isn't helping with deciphering things. He does have Gemini planets including Mercury but if they're in the 12th or 4th this could change a lot. Or he's simply quiet with YOU. Maybe you intimidate him.
AA I'll see if I can get his TOB...I don't' know I can work that into conversation haha and plus some people's birth certificates don't have them for some reason. But are there any aspects that stand out to you that could point to this issue? I'm so confused. I look up aspects for soulmate synastry etc and I see a lot of the aspects we have. What in my chart could be intimidating him? Thank again AA (I hope you don't mind if I call you that?) ------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 11:30 AM
I mean, I would at least expect him to be talkative. Even if it's in a friendly way. His quietness is bothering me! Haha------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 11:57 AM
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Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 03:34 PM
Can I please get some help with this? Is there another section I should place this in? I'm fairly new to this site and haven't really used it much but I always have this issue :-/ is there a place that newbies are supposed to place these kinds of posts? Someone please let me know...------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 940 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 04:22 PM
Use tinypic.com to post the chart from astro.com, tinypic gives you an image code to post directly to the message board. I can tell you've put in lots of effort to get the aspects up here; just a little more and it'll be easier for folks to help you out. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 04:26 PM
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Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 04:29 PM
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Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 05:17 PM
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Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 06:01 PM
Yungang, where art thou? :-(------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 940 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 06:20 PM
Heh I do leave the message board for hours at a time, thus maintaining what shreds of sanity and health I have left. I can't guarantee I can help, only that you'll get more help in general around here if people see a chart when they open a thread... I'm unsure why things are such as they are between you,honestly... I can look a little again but I can't guarantee answers. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by yungang_grotto: Heh I do leave the message board for hours at a time, thus maintaining what shreds of sanity and health I have left. I can't guarantee I can help, only that you'll get more help in general around here if people see a chart when they open a thread... I'm unsure why things are such as they are between you,honestly... I can look a little again but I can't guarantee answers.
Yungang I appreciate any help you can give or can rally up! But are you saying you don't see anything that could point to his quiet demeanor? Is there anything that could be repulsing him on my end? This is the same dilemma I'm having, I can't figure it out for the life of me. I know astrology is only to serve as a guide but man I would expect something to explain this I mean Venus in Gemini and Mercury in Geminj quiet and shy? Whaaaaaaaaat
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 940 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 06:29 PM
OK well... I know how it is starting out in astrology and reading all the awesome descriptions of the amazing aspects and kinda skipping over the less than stellar ones, but I urge you to research the aspects on your list which I am copy and pasting here, and take what you find seriously. This isn't a perfect synastry, not by a long shot... sorry my friend. " Sun Opposite Pluto Orb 1°07' Venus Opposite Mars Orb 1°18' MC Opposite Venus Orb 2°05' AS Opposite Saturn Orb 2°14' *** Sun Opposite Sun Orb 2°53' Mercury Opposite Mars Orb 3°19' *** MC Opposite Mercury Orb 3°58' Jupiter Opposite Mars Orb 4°06' Mercury Opposite Sun Orb 6°13' Mars Opposite Neptune Orb 7°41' AS Opposite MC Orb 7°53' Venus Opposite Sun Orb 8°14' MC Square MC Orb 0°02' Pluto Square MC Orb 0°36' Venus Square Moon Orb 0°59' Node Square Sun Orb 1°22' Sun Square Saturn Orb 2°33' ******** Moon Square Uranus Orb 2°39' Mercury Square Moon Orb 3°00' *** Moon Square Neptune Orb 3°00' *** AS Square Pluto Orb 3°40'" I put stars next to the problematic ones... this is not a complete list of possible stumbling blocks but just to give you an idea. It's important to look in a balanced wayat synastry; nothing is perfect, it's whether you can stele a dynamic balance and make things work with a blend of tense and flowing aspects, ideally complementing both of your natal charts. Saturn square Sun is really a difficult aspect, very critical. You might find that it's better this relationship doesn't go farther than it has, anyway.. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 06:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by yungang_grotto: OK well... I know how it is starting out in astrology and reading all the awesome descriptions of the amazing aspects and kinda skipping over the less than stellar ones, but I urge you to research the aspects on your list which I am copy and pasting here, and take what you find seriously. This isn't a perfect synastry, not by a long shot... sorry my friend. " Sun Opposite Pluto Orb 1°07' Venus Opposite Mars Orb 1°18' MC Opposite Venus Orb 2°05' AS Opposite Saturn Orb 2°14' *** Sun Opposite Sun Orb 2°53' Mercury Opposite Mars Orb 3°19' *** MC Opposite Mercury Orb 3°58' Jupiter Opposite Mars Orb 4°06' Mercury Opposite Sun Orb 6°13' Mars Opposite Neptune Orb 7°41' AS Opposite MC Orb 7°53' Venus Opposite Sun Orb 8°14' MC Square MC Orb 0°02' Pluto Square MC Orb 0°36' Venus Square Moon Orb 0°59' Node Square Sun Orb 1°22' Sun Square Saturn Orb 2°33' ******** Moon Square Uranus Orb 2°39' Mercury Square Moon Orb 3°00' *** Moon Square Neptune Orb 3°00' *** AS Square Pluto Orb 3°40'" I put stars next to the problematic ones... this is not a complete list of possible stumbling blocks but just to give you an idea. It's important to look in a balanced wayat synastry; nothing is perfect, it's whether you can stele a dynamic balance and make things work with a blend of tense and flowing aspects, ideally complementing both of your natal charts. Saturn square Sun is really a difficult aspect, very critical. You might find that it's better this relationship doesn't go farther than it has, anyway..
Ok so the Sun square Saturn could be causing the communication issue? Also, I don't know his TOB so all of the aspects listed involving his asteroids/nodes/ascendant etc are most likely inaccurate. But wow even on a friendly level the sun sq sat can cause Venus and Mercury in Geminj to go quiet? Wow that's shocking. I'll be sure to look out for that in future synastry. I thought that the good aspects we had could counterbalance the small amount of bad ones, as they say that synastry needs some hard aspects so that the relationship isn't boring. But thank you yungang, I'm definitely going to look into Saturn sq sun deeper...
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LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 396 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 07:03 PM
For communication issues I'd look to Mercury.IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: For communication issues I'd look to Mercury.
Hi Lacey! So of the aspects yungang listed I see 3 involving Mercury: Mercury Opp Mars Mercury Opp Sun Mercury Sq Moon Which of these could cause him to be so quiet? Is it a mixture of the three? In the above aspects, he is the Mercury in all of them. ------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2526 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 21, 2015 07:14 PM
This is no t perfect stnastry on your side looking in. You specifically are looking for someone quite Saturnian, and possibly Uranian.IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 940 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 07:19 PM
We can see from the mercury aspects that he will find some difficulty in communicating with you, or understanding where you're coming from emotionally... the mercury moon square is likely to leave you feeling misunderstood, you are at a loss to understand his reasoning on some basic levels. His style of communicating doesn't suit your needs. This is going to manifest in concert with the Saturn Sun square, which indicates that he may feel criticized or under pressure to perform in a certain way. The misunderstandings which are already occurring would be likely to intensify if you two got closer. The opposition of the Suns in this case is a difficult one because your Saturn forms the t-square... The feeling you have that perhaps there is something you are doing to repulse him would likely increase if your relationship were to take on a romantic dimension. I understand why you like him; there are compelling aspects which would give mutual appreciation. But there's also a strong indication that your natal tension (you also have Sun square Saturn natally) is being brought to bear and this will come through in your communications/interactions. Gemini Mercury/Venus does not always mean talkative. Sometimes it means thoughtful, such as in a very introspective chart... We need to look at the whole chart... Taurus is not a sign which is very into talking, and he does have a Taurus Sun--square your Saturn. This brings extra reserve.. It's best to get to know people for themselves and if astrology corroborates your observations that's great! But with an incomplete understanding of chart synthesis it's going to be very hard to form an accurate picture of a person without really getting to know them. IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 07:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: This is no t perfect stnastry on your side looking in. You specifically are looking for someone quite Saturnian, and possibly Uranian.
Theunknown Really? What in my chart shows you that? I do tend to attract Capricorns....my last serious boyfriend was a Capricorn sun Aqua Venus...he was in love with me but I wasn't with him. I do enjoy certain Capricorn traits, like the fact that they're good with money and like to be the man in the relationship, among other things. So I totally agree with you, but what in my chart shows that? Thank you! ------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |
Aatifah21 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: bloobleeblah. Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 07:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by yungang_grotto: We can see from the mercury aspects that he will find some difficulty in communicating with you, or understanding where you're coming from emotionally... the mercury moon square is likely to leave you feeling misunderstood, you are at a loss to understand his reasoning on some basic levels. His style of communicating doesn't suit your needs. This is going to manifest in concert with the Saturn Sun square, which indicates that he may feel criticized or under pressure to perform in a certain way. The misunderstandings which are already occurring would be likely to intensify if you two got closer. The opposition of the Suns in this case is a difficult one because your Saturn forms the t-square... The feeling you have that perhaps there is something you are doing to repulse him would likely increase if your relationship were to take on a romantic dimension. I understand why you like him; there are compelling aspects which would give mutual appreciation. But there's also a strong indication that your natal tension (you also have Sun square Saturn natally) is being brought to bear and this will come through in your communications/interactions. Gemini Mercury/Venus does not always mean talkative. Sometimes it means thoughtful, such as in a very introspective chart... We need to look at the whole chart... Taurus is not a sign which is very into talking, and he does have a Taurus Sun--square your Saturn. This brings extra reserve.. It's best to get to know people for themselves and if astrology corroborates your observations that's great! But with an incomplete understanding of chart synthesis it's going to be very hard to form an accurate picture of a person without really getting to know them.
Yungang, I am admittedly an amateur when it comes to astrology so I appreciate you explaining things the way you did. Things definitely make more sense now. I really appreciate your help! I'll let this one go. At least we didn't get too involved haha. ------------------ "Live your life in daytight compartments." IP: Logged |