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Topic: Help...is there abuse in this synastry chart?
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mztiny
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From: Alexandria, VA
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 11:08 AM
  
 I get worried all the time but just want to make sure 
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Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmaine
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2015 11:47 AM
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Cappi112
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From: New York, New York, USA
Registered: May 2015
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posted October 21, 2015 12:13 PM
Why are you worried all the time that there is abuse in this synastry?Are you part of this couple?
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yungang_grotto
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From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 12:43 PM
The person on the inside has Neptune-Venus square Mars natally. That person could be prone to thinking abusive situations are ok or desirable. They might not have a very clear code of ethical behaviour when it comes to relating sexually...The Jupiter Neptune square in synastry could indicate that any undertones of abusive behavior/tendencies tend to get blown out of proportion, or are magnified in some way. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 12:53 PM
Outside's moon is going to be vulnerable to inside's natal square, given that the moon forms a t-square with the Neptune-Venus and Mars.. I think that's probably a pretty difficult situation, yes. It's hard to see clearly within this union, given the Neptune Moon conjunction, meaning Neptune-Moon is double whammy... neither of you are clearly perceiving the other person's emotional reality.With a Pluto Uranus conjunction I could see volatile situations which feel beyond either of your control being ignited... And I would recommend getting some space to consider what this relationship is to you. Consult with a trusted friend or family member and let them know you plan to take some space from this person, and let the person know in no uncertain terms that you require space. If they refuse to respect you enough to do that? Then you have your answer. Just one option from someone on the internet.... but I've found that to be an effective course of action when I'm confused. You need to get your own bearings back. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 957
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 01:09 PM
All of this presumes of course that you are part of the relationship... apologies for assuming, hope my insight provided a little clarity, I don't want to cause more difficulties for anybody. Hope it's helpful and accurate. IP: Logged |
mztiny
Knowflake Posts: 456
From: Alexandria, VA
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 02:20 PM
Thank you VERY much!!! I am the outside person. Yes this a relationship that is very new...just met yesterday over coffee then ended up spending the entire day with this man (over 7hrs). He wants to see me again tonight...which is him cooking dinner for me. I am nervous cause I REALLY like him and he is head over heels for me as well. We instantly became very lovely dovey with each other.I just get nervous cause this is SO fast and the feelings are right in our face. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 957
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 03:35 PM
If your gut is telling you to be careful then take it slower... nothing to lose, if he's a sincere kind mature person he'll understand and respect your inclination to take it easy. I'm sure the feelings are running high but remember what I said about the potential for not seeing one another clearly, your infatuation may be based on illusory concepts or perceptions. It could also be a beautiful union but if you're already worried about the potential for abuse that is a strong message from your psyche which should be observed and carefully disseminated...Why do you worry? Is this something you frequently worry about in relationship? Framing it as potentially abusive at such an early stage is worrying.. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 957
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 03:41 PM
His Saturn squares his own Sun-Mercury and forms a t-square with your Venus and Jupiter as well. I can see him taking advantage of your good will in this case; you'll want to see him in a positive light, with your Jupiter on his Sun-Mercury--he's very convincing and enigmatic, and dreamy and all that, but he does likely have a controlling personality and a dark side (we all do)-- and I would be extremely careful about moving too quickly. It's always worthwhile to take things slow and really get to know someone. IP: Logged |
mztiny
Knowflake Posts: 456
From: Alexandria, VA
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 21, 2015 04:23 PM
You are right, thank you so much for helping me and calming my fears! Hugs
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todd
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posted October 21, 2015 05:18 PM
hi msztiny
I can no concur that this is a innocent connection
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I looked at the composite chart for the two of you and there are aspects that made me pause.but first ,venus is conjunct the south node which shows a immediate and intense attraction , but the south node can also harbor possessive and controlling emotions along with love and attraction
.eros is square the node and venus so the emotional/sexual energy is very strong. the sun is opposed to pluto which is a bit of a red flag as this shows there a strong selfish streak here. this is not a good aspect forro a relationship because it will always be about personal dominance rather than mutual intimacy. this opposition can show a dark side and a potential problem is that the venus/psyche midpoint is conjunct to pluto exactly to the second. when there is a idealistic emotional connection combined with dark selfish passi9on the outcome is usually some sort of S/M connection as pleasure and pain are indicated. this is definitely a potential for abusive emotional connections. there is a mars/Saturn conjunction opposed to ixion and Jupiter. this emphasizes a domineering and controlling attitude, and with ixion involved you need to be very careful. the moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct the mercury/chiron conjunction at 3 aries.
moon/Saturn can shiow how feelings of devotion are,but with mercury.chiron involved there is a very critical tone. if he starts to criticize you or your behavior be very cautious as this would indicate an attempt to manipulate your self esteem. currently the south node is transmitting the composite mercury at 0areis39.
this transit gives the intense mental connection but it can also be a Svengali aspect in which his words are all focused to channel your ideas and behavior. ths aspect show a psychic /mental connection so I would have thought that the things he said seemed to be what you were thinking at that moment. the moon is conjunct to pholus and exactly square to Neptune. this shows you are highly impressionable and sensitive right now but it also can show there are deceptive emotions present. I think your hesitancy is valid, though there are strong mental and emotional vibrations, there is a much darker side. as I said the venus/psyche midpoint is exactly conjunct to pluto. exact aspect are the strongest and this aspect is ominous. in addition the Neptune/moon square is 8 arc second from exact so the deceptive qualities are very strong also.
does not have the hallmarks of a healthy relationship.
so if you feel he is trying to manipulate your self esteem and overtly critical fro no good reason,beware. todd IP: Logged |
mztiny
Knowflake Posts: 456
From: Alexandria, VA
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 24, 2015 08:38 AM
Thank you Todd for your words and insight!! Sorry for the delay, just wanted to give the relationship a couple of days to see if any of what you and others had predicted. Nonetheless you were right, it was a fast start in the beginning and extremely cozy. Felt like we were immediately into a long relationship after the first 1hr with him. Since then I did have to leave town for a couple of days and he asked to see me again this coming week. But since then there has been very little if no communication. He hasn't contacted me and hasn't replied to my text. "Out of sight out of mind" is what comes to mind. He could be busy but it does seem extremely odd to go from one extreme to another in a matter of two days. He does have Pluto on his IC nataly so I feel he runs extremely hot at the beginning and ends it before the relationship gets off the ground. Who knows...we might meet again this week...but I'm not holding my breath. Nonetheless thank you for your insight.
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