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missblyss
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posted October 22, 2015 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the man i am currently divorcing/ the father of my daughter and i had one of those crazy intense relationships... deep commitment mixed with deep passion from day one. by week 2 i was in federal prison with him, and i didn't care. it felt romantic to be his "ride or die". we were 18 and 20.

it's been 1.5 years since we've split. everytime we engage energetically, whether it be on the phone or in person, that deep intensity is still there.

maybe i'm young and naive, but i both love and fear the intensity we bring out in each other...

i suppose i'm just looking for a broader energetic perspective on the dynamics... i'll post some of our synastry aspects... please tell me if you feel i'm deluded in my thinking, naive, or if this is really something special <3

infinite love!!

his mars trine my sun and my mars trine his sun
moon oppose moon
venus oppose moon
his pluto sextile my moon and his moon trine my pluto
his saturn oppose my ascendant and my ascendant square his saturn
sun sextile venus
his mars square my venus
his saturn square my pluto
his uranus sextile my pluto
his venus trine my pluto

i value your opinions so much!


edit to add recent shower revelations:

I suppose I am having more memories of the incidents that make me feel that i may be delusional in this. Although the relationship began with him pursuing me and me being uninterested (i was into his best friend)... He proposed after 2 weeks and i felt that he was so into me... I was uncertain. But something made me hold on.
Anyways, he has recently told me that he never actually loved me.
That he was only with me because he thought i would go crazy if he left me.
he looked me in the eyes and said "I WILL NEVER BE WITH YOU AGAIN"

of course, there is that side of me that says ohhh look how much i affected him..

Am I out of my mind?

I always thought that he was so into me... But hearing those things really made me wonder if I had been deluded this entire time... Thinking that he was into me when in reality I was like a lead weight tied to his ankle...

I can't differentiate between my fears, his potential manipulation, and the truth!

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athenaia
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posted October 22, 2015 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please post your charts! I'm dying to see the visual honestly

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missblyss
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posted October 22, 2015 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LaceyLeigh
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posted October 22, 2015 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you upload a chart using astro.com? It's much easier to read.

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missblyss
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posted October 22, 2015 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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missblyss
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posted October 22, 2015 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops, sorry i posted it so many times!

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LaceyLeigh
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posted October 22, 2015 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, you're not crazy.

Your Mars squares his Venus, your moon and Venus fall into his 8th house and his Mars falls into your 8th. That would explain the intensity you feel regardless of how much time has passed.

Your Sun/Mercury conjunct his Saturn which would explain why you feel like his "ride or die".

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missblyss
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posted October 22, 2015 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these energies something that could potentially be managed, maybe once we grow and mature a bit more? It never was violent between us....

I'm just afraid the passion will never die..... and then I'll just be stuck remembering what was!

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hypatia238
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posted October 23, 2015 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post the midpoint composite and davison?

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missblyss
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posted October 23, 2015 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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missblyss
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posted October 23, 2015 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks for all the help everyone!

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missblyss
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posted October 23, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hopefully those are the right charts

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missblyss
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posted October 24, 2015 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump for some words of wisdom!
thanks guys!

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todd
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posted October 25, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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bansheequeen
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posted October 25, 2015 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You didnt really post your feelings about him. Did you love him? Did YOU feel crazy about him? Or did you just enjoy basking in what you perceived was that he was crazy about you? Did you really love him or did the both of you just get swept up in delusional romance? Do you know for sure YOUR feelings for him?

Anyways. Chiron on the ascendant can be soulmate material. Chiron aspects in relationships can make someone really addictive. Chiron promises healing old wounds and also that you guys are very aware of the wounds and what hurts the other. Which can be very close or destructive if you turn on eachother. It can be a sacrificing energy as well. Ride or die.

Also I noticed the north node in the 5th house. There is a karmic energy that broght you two together in a romantic reltionship

Mirroring aspects are soulmate material. But soulmates dotn always end happily.

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missblyss
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posted October 25, 2015 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At first, I wasn't sure... I honestly don't know if this is partially because I am afraid to open up? Afraid in relationships... It was my first REAL relationship- living together, being together all of the time. I am not used to that and it was weird for me, because we already lived together prior to hooking up/ officially getting together.. so we started off SO hard and so fast. there was no progression. I was with hi 24/7 from day one. And event after event bound us together even further. I almost felt like I didn't have a choice so part of me really questioned it. I would wonder if he REALLY was my soulmate, because I guess I had imagined my soulmate to have different qualities (be more spiritually interested, etc.) We were opposite in many ways and it could be really hard, but when I would sit and meditate on it I was always shocked at how he brought me the most profound lessons. I did really love him. But I think part of me felt forced and slightly controlled and it made me restless. It's been 1.5 years since we've split and I have yet to come across anyone who makes me feel like he does, although I suppose it could take longer.

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posted October 25, 2015 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see why you felt controlled. Your mars in gemini and venus in aries to not like to be restricted in any way. And him simply being him might have made you feel controlled. His mars in cancer and venus and moon in pisces! But the moon and venus in pisces might have been kind of vague about love making you feel unsure yet at the same time trapped. All the things he said very well could be lies. Or truth. Or neither and he just said it at the moment. You can never know with a pisces moon.. The vibe im getting is that he didnt have boundaries and it made you really uncomfortable and feel unsafe.

Also something seems profound about your semisexile chirons AND your chiron being in your 12h while his falls in your 1st.

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missblyss
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posted October 26, 2015 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well see, at the time it seemed like he had been pursuing me for a while.. i wasn't interested at first. when we finally got together he was very aggressive, wanted to be my boyfriend immediately. wanted to get engaged after 2 months. talking about marriage and kids in first weeks.

But recently I THINK I may have caught him being very manipulative about some things. I am not 100% sure though... But it is weird because for the entire time we were together (4 years) I viewed him as a very genuinely good, straight-forward guy. I am wondering now if that is just the image he was putting off and he was actually a lot more manipulative in the relationship that I ever allowed myself to see... Honestly, for so long I thought he was just SO in love with me, I was in love with him too... But also felt restricted by him. and was unsure he'd ever be able to give me enough freedom to be happy

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missblyss
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posted October 26, 2015 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although, I sometimes wonder if I'm just paranoid.

I have been "mind-controlled" before i.e. given 10 hits of acid without me being aware of it... and then witnessing some guy trying to plant thoughts and ideas in my head :/

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AquaLeo29
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posted October 26, 2015 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked your cosmodyne score, and your synastry got a score of +88. My highest harmonious relationship is +70.

I am no expert but I wanna say that there is really something deep in your relationship, and both of you feel it.

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Aquarius Sun, Leo Ascendant, Moon in Capricorn, Venus conj Mars in Pisces

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posted October 26, 2015 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry, dp.

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Aquarius Sun, Leo Ascendant, Moon in Capricorn, Venus conj Mars in Pisces

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missblyss
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posted October 26, 2015 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh thank you for looking that up!

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posted October 26, 2015 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by missblyss:
well see, at the time it seemed like he had been pursuing me for a while.. i wasn't interested at first. when we finally got together he was very aggressive, wanted to be my boyfriend immediately. wanted to get engaged after 2 months. talking about marriage and kids in first weeks.

But recently I THINK I may have caught him being very manipulative about some things. I am not 100% sure though... But it is weird because for the entire time we were together (4 years) I viewed him as a very genuinely good, straight-forward guy. I am wondering now if that is just the image he was putting off and he was actually a lot more manipulative in the relationship that I ever allowed myself to see... Honestly, for so long I thought he was just SO in love with me, I was in love with him too... But also felt restricted by him. and was unsure he'd ever be able to give me enough freedom to be happy


Your fixation on how much he was into you makes it seem to me like that was part of the initial attraction for you, as opposed to just a pure attraction of wow I like him. Correct me if Im wrong.

Such is the nature of pisces moon. You can never be sure of where they stand on their emotions, even if you feel it is the only thing that exists in the moment, as soon as the moment passes its hazy or forgettable, hard to focus. With the pisces moon and venus in the 5th he loves to love. Maybe he loves love more than the people themselves. He loves the relationship game. He could have been manipulating you, but nothing really screams manipluation to me in the charts. Theres a good chance he was being very raw and open with you, but the nature of his pisces moon made it seem like manipulation in hindsight.

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posted October 26, 2015 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the moon oppose moon synastry is one that can be highly frustrating. You need a strong saturnian glue to keep you together, no matter how wonderful the other aspects may be.

There is a lot of dw plutonian energies between you two, and pluto tends to be highly manipulative. Gives intensity but also lots of game playing, on both sides. I don't consider Pluto a loving energy anymore, no matter how HOT people claim it to be.

You are not being delusional. This man was into you, and he is now trying to hurt your feelings by saying the one thing he knows would hurt you the most.

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missblyss
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posted October 26, 2015 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are right- that was the initial attraction for me,
but, you see, he was also, "not an option" for me because I was hooking up with his best friend- who didn't treat me very well...

Honestly, I think I didn't know how to handle being loved so much, even though I did enjoy it. I had never been treated that way before.

Since our relationship has crumbled, he has flung himself fully into another identity. He now says he will never be in another relationship again. He sees women as "b*****". His heart is closed. I am not sure if I am part of the reason that this has happened. :/

I wonder if my Pisces sun gave him a false impression of who I would be in a relationship... Then my virgo moon.. trine saturn, left him feeling emotionally unfulfilled in a way. I remember many times of him begging me to just say what I was feeling.. It was hard for me, the words that needed to come out felt like they weighed a million pounds.

I miss him and his soft heart and I wish I would have known better how to take care of it.

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