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Gabby
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posted October 24, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any experience with this kind of connection?
Its a very tough placement natally. So for the opposition to fall in someones NN/SN axis would be a very karmic placement, but im not sure what exactly this karma would be or how it would play out....

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posted October 24, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You Interesting my Jupiter opposes Venus...its a simular but the opposite dynamic from Venus opposed Saturn.

Saturn opposed Venus
You may have to experience disappointments in love and in relation to money because of an unrecognized fear within causing you to separate and to wall yourself off. Money problems as well are tied to a lack of giving. Venus rules love, money, and the principle of attraction. Your ability to attract love and wealth is directly tied to your ability to give love and to share. And difficulties here may not necessarily be related to self-centeredness or selfishness, but rather to fear. Any tendencies to be manipulative and scheming with other people's resources will backfire by your being manipulated by others. You'll sometimes work hard for certain material or emotional ends, but the results will be negligible compared to the effort you've put in. That could esoterically be attributed to a karma of relationship or love, but it would be more precise to say that the determinative vibration you’re giving off in those instances is a deep, unrecognized fear. Your particular value system manages to bring you into conflict with others, especially those in authority. You seldom appreciate the law in any form and challenge it frequently.


Jupiter opposed Venus would be(in my case) giving to much and never setting boundaries in love. Loving someone in hopes they will see your value and see how much you deserve love and love you back.

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posted October 25, 2015 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump....

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posted October 25, 2015 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct NN and Saturn conjunct SN, right?

There might be a strong glue in this relationship, but one that might partially feel stifling to the SN-partner. It`s as if the Saturn-partner has been taking on more of a guardian- or even paternal role, in worst case scenario even that of a "jail-keeper", structuring the SN-partners life, which of course can be a good thing, but could also have led to stifling any natural response and an anxiety to be herself, because of fearing the criticism and controlling behaviour of the Saturn-Partner.
Worst case scenario of course. Could have been bringing also a lot of stability into the SN-partner`s life, there was predictability and reliability.

But is this really all in life?

Well as the Venus on the NN sais: No.
Donīt forget the love, don`t forget the romance.

Those two people`s way seems to lead from a structured protective guarding and guiding influence (which might have felt somewhat stifling or even devoid of natural emotional responses) into a more romantic future. Either romantic, or also having to do with the arts, could become some creative thng too. And to be creative, what do you need? Natural emotional responses, not putting everything in boxes (Saturn on SN).
Allowing the love and romance and attraction and yes, fun (including the sensual kind of fun ) to blossom, without categorizing it immediately,w ithout seeking a purpose for it, or an appropriate environment and if it does not seem appropriate, suppress it, but instead just enjoying it for itself, for the purpose of experiencing this feeling, even though it may not last. (it could though of course).

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posted October 25, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Venus conjunct NN and Saturn conjunct SN, right?

There might be a strong glue in this relationship, but one that might partially feel stifling to the SN-partner. It`s as if the Saturn-partner has been taking on more of a guardian- or even paternal role, in worst case scenario even that of a "jail-keeper", structuring the SN-partners life, which of course can be a good thing, but could also have led to stifling any natural response and an anxiety to be herself, because of fearing the criticism and controlling behaviour of the Saturn-Partner.
Worst case scenario of course. Could have been bringing also a lot of stability into the SN-partner`s life, there was predictability and reliability.

But is this really all in life?

Well as the Venus on the NN sais: No.
Donīt forget the love, don`t forget the romance.

Those two people`s way seems to lead from a structured protective guarding and guiding influence (which might have felt somewhat stifling or even devoid of natural emotional responses) into a more romantic future. Either romantic, or also having to do with the arts, could become some creative thng too. And to be creative, what do you need? Natural emotional responses, not putting everything in boxes (Saturn on SN).
Allowing the love and romance and attraction and yes, fun (including the sensual kind of fun ) to blossom, without categorizing it immediately,w ithout seeking a purpose for it, or an appropriate environment and if it does not seem appropriate, suppress it, but instead just enjoying it for itself, for the purpose of experiencing this feeling, even though it may not last. (it could though of course).


Thank you Ceri!

Funny, its his Saturn/Venus my SN/NN

Hes says hes very unstructured but yet hes been very consistent with me.
So you think it will be alot of structure innitially, potentially feeling stifling to me but has the chance to grow into something more loving as we work out the karma from saturn?

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posted October 25, 2015 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so, yes.

It`s also not about throwing the SN-planet into the garbage, but using what it taught the two of you on your way into the future.

Also the Saturn-SN must be a great glue, my parents have that, too.
I do think however it is a good thing they also have Jupiter on the NN. Something to balance out the Saturnian heaviness, as it could happen. I definitely think Venus or Jupiter on the NN could provide a good counterbalance to the Saturn-portion.


So take the structure and enhance it with love and romance and flowers.

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posted October 25, 2015 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think so, yes.

It`s also not about throwing the SN-planet into the garbage, but using what it taught the two of you on your way into the future.

Also the Saturn-SN must be a great glue, my parents have that, too.
I do think however it is a good thing they also have Jupiter on the NN. Something to balance out the Saturnian heaviness, as it could happen. I definitely think Venus or Jupiter on the NN could provide a good counterbalance to the Saturn-portion.


So take the structure and enhance it with love and romance and flowers.


Thank you Ceri, that's very hopeful and helpful!
His Aphrodite and Isis are on my NN also....seems to be very positive energy to grow into!

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posted October 25, 2015 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely a very feminine theme here!

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