posted October 24, 2015 04:30 PM            

I was actually thinking WHEN this certain shift in the connection/communication, whatever we want to call it, took place.

And well, while there was this infamous incident on a concert when he said I was driving him crazy, it was not really a mutual connection/meeting, as I was not very responsive Imight say.
I did not react to it, except feeling a little shocked and completely surprised. lol, and I did not talk to him after the show. like I usually do, I simply got up at the end of it and left.

BUT on the next occasion we sort of saw each other (using that word "saw" very lightly, as it of course was during a concert ), he jumped off his stage and in fact was working his way through the crammed small club to where I was sitting to ask me for my name, announcing then that he already knew before, as he knew me and not leaving me ANY chance to NOT response (without being completely rude).

Of course this was just part of the show, however reflecting on the last months, THIS was the point, the interaction (there - that is a fine word for it! - ) between us changed, or shifted (which is an ongoing process).

So when I realized that today, I wanted to have a look at the chart for that day last year, and it turned out to be a chart of the variety of: "Oh boy I did not expect THAT!" lol
I was not even aware of how that chart would look.

posted October 25, 2015 04:26 PM            

Also intrigued with that astrological pattern involving the square, inconjunction and trine; it looks very dynamic:

posted October 25, 2015 04:45 PM            

"I love that true lilith conjunct venus and the moon-valentine-jupiter conjunction!"
Yes, me, too.

Interestingly that True Lilith-Venus was opposing my n Moon on 17 Aquarius. (I´ve been wondering for the last 2 years why whenever Tr Saturn was making an exact square to my n Moon such outstanding slightly surprising/ shocking but very good and constructive things happened. I certainly did not expect ANYTHING good that day. )

Speaking of that Mars-Saturn, it was also EXACT conjunct our composite MC-ASTRAEA - conjunction.
(my own pr MC was close, too)

"Love was in the air that day..."
There definitely was *something* in the air, I agree. Even his bandmembers commented on his "energizer-bunny-semblance" that evening. lol
And he did not seem too unhappy having to empty a bucket full of icy cold water over his head.
Well he didn`t *have* to come run over to the table I was sitting at right after that so I was - unintentionally of course honestly though I start getting suspicious about all his "un-intended actions". lol - participating in a bit of that cold water, too.
(it WAS unintended Iguess, jokes aside. He had been picking the man sitting beside me as his "victim for the evening", and was hugging him shortly after taken that ice bucket challenge, and since I was sitting right next to them, I was getting a whiff of that, too. LOL Did I mention he`s a bit crazy? )

"Also intrigued with that astrological pattern involving the square, inconjunction and trine; it looks very dynamic:"
I think it`s called a Fortress or something like it.

I find it interesting that

Tr Uranus opposed our c-Pluto on 15 LIbra and squard uor c-Venus on 16 Capricorn
(and squaring my poor n Saturn on 16 Cancer; he overwhelmed me a little. lol)

Tr Mars-Saturn on our c-MC on 16 Scorpio

BTW the Tr Moon was on our c-Karma on 9 Leo in 7th house.

posted October 25, 2015 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That Yod must have something to do with it too, shifting the communication dynamics helping for contact and communication to start: Uranus < Mars-Saturn sextile Mercury.

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Yes, I agree with you.
The Mercury was also widely conjunct his n Mars-Jupiter-conjunction on 11 Virgo and EXACT on his pMars on 14 Virgo, and opposing my Jupiter on 11 Pisces (and Juno on 16 Pisces).

So it kinda was activating that synastric opposition of my Jupiter to his Mars-Jupiter.

posted October 26, 2015 08:11 PM            

This 'meeting' took place a week ago, today. There were 3 of us in the room, and a lot of tension was in the air. I was not able to express myself as I normally would around one of the people involved. Time is correct within 5 minutes.

posted October 26, 2015 11:15 PM            

I regularly plan when to do certain things by transit. Sometimes, there's not much wiggle room for this, and in these cases I try to a least make sure the Moon is doing something nice to my chart.

If I were meeting up with a guy I liked, I'd try not to do it when the Moon made harsh aspect to one of my relationship house rulers. There's an exception to the rule here though. I actually quite enjoy it if the Moon trines or sextiles my Venus at 29 Sag, however my Moon is at 29 Cancer and it rules my 8th. Aries or Libra soft aspects to my Venus are quite good even though they square my 8th house ruler the Moon. Aries and Libra are on my 5th and 11th houses so the Moon here works well for outgoing social events or dates.

Meeting up with a love interest during a nice transit to the 5th or 7th house rulers is usually a good choice. The 8th house is very private, and nice aspects to this house ruler work well for sharing very private things, rather then 'out there' social events. 8th house meetings are more like a therapy session.

Transits to the Vertex axis are also fun to plan events for. Conjunctions to the Vertex can show us learning something interesting and new, which may become a game-changer. Conjunctions to the Antivertex tend to show when our suspicions about things are confirmed, or we get what we hoped for.

I read somewhere that the last aspect the Moon makes before it leaves it's sign shows the final 'outcome' of an event. For example if you meet to have a debate with someone and the last aspect the Moon will make is a square, the outcome of the meeting will be that the problem will not be harmoniously resolved. Another meeting may need to be planned to where the last aspect the Moon makes is a trine, in order for the debate to reach a satisfying conclusion.

There's an astrologer who professionally plans wedding charts, April Elliot Kent, that always looks at the last aspect the Moon makes before a void-of-course. The same theory could apply to a meeting of some kind, especially an important one.

posted October 27, 2015 08:41 AM            

thanks for the nice words on my posts.

As for your eventchart, if we treat it as a horary chart (as Lotis actually suggested), we can have a peek at what Moon was doing at the time of meeting, and then look at the last aspect she makes before leaving sign, as to a possible outcome.

Here there is a Cappy Moon conjunct Pluto, a VERY intense moment in time, but with the square to Sun as last aspect and the square to Uranus in the middle of the sign - possibly a very bumpy ride on that road!
Did the tension catch you offguard?

posted October 27, 2015 08:42 AM            

thank you for your comments, truely insightful and inspiring once again.

There is quite a bit I want to say to this, but since I am pressed for time now, I will have to come back to it.

EDIT
It`s actually interesting and a little puzzling. Why I felt that urge or drive to check the "road so far" (must have been watching too much Winchester-brothers lately I was even mentioning the "angel radio" today in class. ) in terms of those pivotal moments/ events, he has been doing his own reflecting on the past apparently, though I do not know why exactly. But it just was obvious in him suddenly posting videos of songs/ performances from YEARS ago, including the one song he wrote himself, right after one of the big "fail-moments", ripe of probably misunderstandings and my personal paranoia, leading to another disappearance act on my behalf, which lasted several months.
That song, which describes my behaviour and our weird "connection/almost-interaction" until then, and can probably be summed up with the first words he used in this song:
"Why didn`t you talk to me?"

Anyway, that`s been years ago actually (2012), so I was pretty surprised to see him pulling that out of the hat again. It`s a pretty good song though.

But whatever is going on in his mind and what his reasons are for that, I just was feeling inspired to have a closer examination of the "timeline", starting with the First meeting chart actually.
A quinkunx chart actually (both, Sun-Moon and the rulers of the ASC and DESC were quinkunx), lopsided, you can say that for sure!

A very close Pythagorean triangle of

Moon 1 Cap
Pluto 0 Cap

Saturn 2 Virgo

Sun 2 Gemini

And with the last aspect of Moon before leaving sign being a trine to Venus in Taurus interestingly.

But on the way to that, stumbling into the quinkunxes to Mars on 7 Leo and Mercury on 20 Gemini, sometime on the way to there. lol

Speaking of, Moon was also the apex planet of a Golden Yod, being exact biquintile Venus and Mars, which were quintile each other.
Hence one of the closest midpoint pictures of that chart back then had been

Moon= Pluto = Venus/Mars

Don`t let me even get started on that.

But I think all other "pivotal moment charts" had a quinkunx, opposition, square or sometimes conjunction as the last MOon-aspect.
Oh and if I remember it rightly they were all, pretty much all, having strong Saturn-signature, surprisingly.

Well starting with the first meeting chart of course, which had aspects of Saturn to Sun and Moon. Which is interesting actually, as the fmc in this regard reflects the themese of composite, as in the composite Saturn is trine Sun and quinkunx Moon. (and trine Mercury and biquintile Venus and sextile Mars and NN and quintile Jupiter and conjunct Vertex. lol Saturn aspects pretty much everything. )

But yeah I know I am getting distracted and off track here and away from the chart I posted here.

But itis very interesting to me, that the last time we met, on a gathering, was almost EXACTLY a year after that, just one day off. Which means it ONCE AGAIN had Tr Sun on 29 Leo (this year) instead of 00 Virgo, another one of those annual conjunctions to his natal North Node on 01 Virgo.

Funny enough in the first meeting chart Tr Sun was squaring his nodal axis with Saturn conjunct his NN.

And then there was this other meeting in november 2013, when I pretty much decided that either we found somehow a way to deal with each other in more non-vague ways, or not at all.
Sort of a "Re-connection" (after a lot of confusing almost encounters, to a big part because of MY evasiveness and also my inability to see that I am not really invisible so my actions AND inactions might have consequences and affect other people in some way. I know that it was me who messed up in that way, so I decided I was the one to bring that back onto a more normal level again, which was the reason why I chatted to him on that event in 2013. Though truth be told, even though I had made the decision and it probably was clear that I would like to say at least `Hello`to him, then I became very hesitating and retracted and planning on leaving quickly, which I would have done, if he had not approached me and blocked the way to the exit for me. LOL)

Anyway THAT event had Tr Sun on 1 Sagittarius, also square his nodal axis.

Interestingly enough back then Tr Moon was on 11 Leo just one degree off the Tr Moon, when he was approaching me on that concert a few months later (after - you guessed it - a few months of disappearance on my behalf. LOL Do I detect a behavioural pattern of mine here? ).

posted October 27, 2015 04:41 PM            

"I regularly plan when to do certain things by transit."
Personally I don`t do this. Somehow I like the thought of letting things evolve the way they are meant to.
However, in this case I also do not have a choice, well I suppose I would have a choice in picking the concerts or performances I attend to but I never do for astrology reasons. Never even thought about it.

It`s more or less coincidence; however I do often check the transit charts AFTER such an event; even after some more specific communication on fb; well it`s of course all just very general, and most of the times I put up messages there not for him to answer, but just as an expression of some sort, and often more impulsively than I actually am used to do. lol
However sometimes he responds (which always surprises me a lot, though it has become increasingly more frequent), and whenever I check the transit charts afterwards (only ASC, MC, Vertex and Moon) I am usually blown away by how closely that one will align to our natals or composite, and I am talking about close conjunctions to major ones here, not something like Tr MC semisextile composite Humptydumpty by 15 degrees. lol

Usually one of those (angles or luminaries, including Sun though) will conjunct very often composite Sun (on his Sun-Moon-MC and my Sun-Mercury) or even more frequently one of those will be between 13-20 Scorpio, usually accompanied by either Saturn.

These are the ttop 2 occurrences, followed by a simultaneous (as addition not a substitute of the first two I mentioned) conjunction to around 16 Sagittarius (our composite Mercury-Neptune-conjunction).

The actual meetings/ encounters have a bit of a different signature. however the triggering of the mid Scorpio degrees seems to be ALWAYS there.
This is so reliable that it really fascinates me and I`ve come to expect this. lol

Actually this has been so relieable, that I almost could have suspcted he "times" this. It`s just all a bit overly coincidental.
I mean those, Sun, Moon, ASC, MC, Vertex are such fast movers, how can it be that whenever he starts some kind of communication with me they end up being at about 15 Scorpio?

However, funny enough that mid-scorpio pattern really started only after the "re-connection" in 2013. Though our FMC does have PSYCHE on 15 Scorpio. However that is not an angle or luminary of course.

"If I were meeting up with a guy I liked, I'd try not to do it when the Moon made harsh aspect to one of my relationship house rulers. "
That`s a good point!

Actually that Tr Moon on 10 Leo was closely trine my Neptune (r3 and ruler of secondary 7th house) and NN and his Mercury (r7 as well as r3 and r4 for him).

So it effectively was having a nice flwoing aspect to that synastric aspect of my Neptune-NN conjunct his Mercury.

"Transits to the Vertex axis are also fun to plan events for. Conjunctions to the Vertex can show us learning something interesting and new, which may become a game-changer. Conjunctions to the Antivertex tend to show when our suspicions about things are confirmed, or we get what we hoped for."
I am making a mental note of this.

posted October 29, 2015 04:40 AM            

Well I'm not obsessive compulsive about planning event charts, but I will do for important happenings, and I do always keep an eye out on transits. Over time I've started to keenly notice how different Moon transits effect me, certain ones are more difficult then others (like repeatedly). And I do try to avoid significant events during those transits.

About observing patterns with transits, progressons, and synastry... This is always fascinating to know about. Like when you start encountering people or have certain interactions with them (like Mr Sag) and the transits show common themes, it can give us clues about things. I was listening to an astrology podcast from Itunes, and this one male astrologer was talking about how when he first met his wife he thought it was odd that a certain degree kept popping up with transits. Their first date, their first kiss, moving in together,that sort of thing. The funny thing was this degree (can't remember what it was, but I think it was 3 Scorpio or something) was not significant in either of their charts. Anyway, fast forward a few years and they are married and having their first baby... And it turns out that their new baby son has this degree as his Asc. It was as if their son was somehow predicted repeatedly as they got closer, but of course beforehand there was no way they could have known it. Stuff like this is why it's interesting to keep track.

posted October 29, 2015 03:32 PM            

"Over time I've started to keenly notice how different Moon transits effect me, certain ones are more difficult then others (like repeatedly). "
That is interesting.
What Moon-transit (aspecting your chart) have you found uplifting and which more difficult?

"The funny thing was this degree (can't remember what it was, but I think it was 3 Scorpio or something) was not significant in either of their charts. Anyway, fast forward a few years and they are married and having their first baby... And it turns out that their new baby son has this degree as his Asc."
That is soo intriguing! Like it was all planned and scheduled from the start!

"About Mr Sag patterns... Sounds like the pattern for you is late fixed and early mutable, as well as mid fixed."
Yes, at least one of the patterns.
But it is not "hanging up in the air" so to speak, esp. if I take the composite into consideration.

We do have an exact opposition of BML-BML from 28 Leo-Aquarius, which puts composite BML onto 28 Taurus and composite true PRIAPUS on 28 Scorpio. Plus his nodal axis is on 1 Virgo-Pisces, but progressionwise it is at 29 Leo.

Also his pASC on 3 Gemini, and he is having the same Moon-phase as I was having when we first met curiously enough (pMoon on 03 Taurus square pSun on 03 Aquairus - for me back then it had been pMoon on 00 Taurus square pSun on 00 Aquarius)

Nevertheless funny enough his pASC just passed the location of our first meeting chart`s Sun on 2 Gemini; it is just a random yet intriguing note, but his name in his son`s chart is on 2 Gemini, too. lol

"Performers often enjoy a certain exchange of energy with their audience. There maybe something about your energy that gives him that feeling of 'back and forth' while performing, kind of like when you bounce a ball against a wall and have it come back to you."
Yes, I think I am a good "bouncing wall" like that. I am aware of it.

It also became VERY apparent on the gathering in august, which was not really a pefromance, more an informal gathering of some people in a restaurant he suggested and scheduled. ("to get to know each other better in a relaxed athmosphere" as he put it. lol)

I was hesitating to go there, because of my innate shyness and this crap I am usually telling myself to have an excuse to NOT do something (people do not quite believe me though it seems).
Anyway in the end I was glad to have gone there, even though had I known that I would be in the centre almost the whole time (I had to leave early though, I had not expected the meeting to go as long as it did; I mean it started at about 4 p.m. and ended apparently after 10 p.m., well I had to leave at a bit after 8 p.m., which he complained and teased me about. lol)

Nah seriously, it was a bit of really good communication, even a little bantering, just as communication has to be to be really good (imo), though I fear we put the poor waiter under considerable distress.

It was nothing BIG though, just very exemplary about how two Sag-Mercuries can get if locked into the same room for longer than 10 minutes, and it was a nice view at how communication *could* be (if I do not act evasive because I am racking my brain about what would be the appropriate way to communicate, respond, not respond whatever. There IS NO appropriate way to communicate, or to pretend something, when it comes to him obviously.
The less I think and just react as it feels natural to me, the more effortlessly the communication flows.
Anyway, many words, but that afternoon was really fun.lol

For once some of our MErcury-aspects really showed like:

my Mercury conjunct his Sun, Moon, MC
his Mercury conjunct my Mars, ASC, NN (and NEptune), and maybe even sextile Pluto but certainly square my Jupiter.

As I said it was fun and honest. I missed that. I mean that playful banter with someone else, who is not part of my family. Cause most non-relatives feel so easily offended by what is just meant as a bit of a teasing communication, a joke, really. But there are only a very few people who "get" me like that.
And even fewer who can turn up that vibe a notch and challenge me in this regard. And he is certainly one of those.

So yeah, Ithink you are right about that "bouncing wall", but apparently it is a two-way-street.

posted October 30, 2015 03:42 AM            

With Moon transits… Very general observations are that Moon transiting the 3rd, 5th, and 11th houses are usually very fun. And masculine signs, especially when the Moon is also in a masculine house, make me more interested in getting out and about. I really like Aries, Libra, Sagittarius, and Aquarius Moon transits for entertaining things. Most of Gemini falls into my 6th house so it’s better for just getting stuff done and doing errands. The part in the 7th house is fun however. Leo Moon can be fun, but my south node ruler Mars is in Leo and sometimes I get a feeling of ‘been there, done that’ from Leo Moons. Funnily, I don’t get that same feeling from Aries Moons (my south node is Aries) unless conjunction to the south node is very tight.

Moons in feminine signs put me in the mood to be introspective and take a deeper look at things… A good bit of Taurus falls into my 5th though, so I’m either thinking about 5th house things (the part in the 5th seems to be about admiring beauty) or chores and health (6th house). So Taurus is not so deep for me. A lot of Scorpio is in my 11th so it can actually feel a bit social to me, transits in Scorpio feel very psychoanalytical either publicly (11th house) or privately (12th house). I usually really enjoy trines and sextiles to my Moon from late feminine sign Moons. They make me feel secure and in touch with my inner self. Even oppositions from transiting Capricorn Moons feel good.

I ironically have the hardest time with my own Moon sign, except for the very beginning and very end of it. I have Jupiter at zero Cancer and Moon at 29 Cancer, and very tight transits to these placements are fine. The middle part sucks pretty much. Most of Cancer quincunxes my Sag planets, opposes my Sun or squares my Pluto… Keep in mind the Moon goes though my 8th house in Cancer. I can get all moody, or somehow get ‘weird vibes’ from people and situations.

When the Moon transits in a square to Mars can be challenging as well. Mars in Leo square Moon in Taurus or Scorpio indicates obstinate refusals, or this intimidating feeling that somebody is trying to undermine me.

Heavenly transits are trines and sextiles to Mercury my 7th house ruler, this transit makes me feel affectionate and stimulated at the same time. Trines and sextiles to Venus feel similar to what happens with Mercury (even though Aries and Libra soft aspect to Venus can square my Moon, I don’t mind it too much) and usually involve something good happening with my body (Venus rules my 6th and 11th houses).

Trines and sextiles to my 5th house ruler Mars are also incredible, they give an enthusiastic, passionate feeling. And soft aspects to my Uranus and Antivertex conjunction are usually engrossing, and are a good time to become really mentally absorbed in something. Which is good cause I really like that kind of thing.

Transit to my East Point/West Point (Equatorial Asc/Dsc Axis) at around 7 Sag/Gemini are lovely because they give me this contented cheerful feeling that everything is okay, and I’m alright with where I’m at.