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ikja
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posted October 26, 2015 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys,

I'm currently exploring the world of online dating with an open heart - yay! I tried online dating at the beginning of the year but found that my baggage was holding me back. This time, I'm baggage free and I really am reeling them all in, it's actually quite difficult to keep up 😂

So, I've got a personal favourite and I like him because we just click. I'm quite cheeky and rude with him and he gives it right back to me which is perfect. I've also already declared that I'm someone who knows what they want and isn't afraid to go after it and he seems to like it. We now text all the time and I've done some further research and things seem to be legit - so I'm pretty happy that he is who he says he is etc.

Although we haven't met yet, I think our synastry is quite beautiful, but with a few EEEEEEKs.

I'm on the outside and he is on the inside. His TOB is pretty accurate, he said he was born between 1am and 1:30am. I've chosen 1:15am as a happy middle ground.

Yays

Mars/Venus
Moon/Venus
Mars/Mercury (I've always had a terrible aspect between these two in synastry with others)
Mercury/Venus
My Sun in his 5th
His Sun in my 5th
His Venus in my 7th
My Venus in his 4th

I'm also pleased that his Sun is in Aries because I'm quite abit of Fire (Moon/Mars in Aries)

NAYs

Pluto/Moon
Saturn/Moon
Moon/Uranus
Sun/Chiron (my biggest concerns because that is almost exact!)

I've also got the time/date when we first sent eachother messages. Both of our charts are pretty active with this event chart! Mine has a few more red lines when matched with the event chart and his has more blue lines; but at least it shows we were both "affected".

Pretty decent synastry right guys? Or am I blinded by Neptune somehow?

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ikja
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posted October 26, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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DopGang
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posted October 26, 2015 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't believe that you're not getting responses.
I'm far from any authority on this and for that reason I'm not going to even attempt a point by point.
However, I like it!!
Moon/Venus.
Oh I love that. It's among my personal favorites. I had it once. Just wow.
(I was moon)

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ikja
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posted October 27, 2015 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
I can't believe that you're not getting responses.
I'm far from any authority on this and for that reason I'm not going to even attempt a point by point.
However, I like it!!
Moon/Venus.
Oh I love that. It's among my personal favorites. I had it once. Just wow.
(I was moon)

Maybe my synastry with this person isn't as great as imagined and no one wants to break it to me :laugh:

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posted October 27, 2015 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the composite look like?

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ikja
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posted October 27, 2015 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the composite

That Chiron in the 7th house is abit frightful, but I can't find anything about it online on the web

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posted October 27, 2015 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to charge your battery. LOL

Lots of 5th house though!
Lots of fun!

Moon in the 4th.

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ikja
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posted October 27, 2015 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
😅😅😅😅😅
I'm the worst when it comes to charging my phone.

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posted October 27, 2015 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ikja,

I'm only a hobbyist, not a professional, so take my feedback with a grain of salt, ok.

I do see attraction.
-Your Venus on his Moon and square his Mars shows strong attraction. The square to his Mars is very wide, but he probably still feels it, especially with his Moon being involved.
-Your Mars is on his Venus/Mars midpoint, and your Uranus squares it. This shows a strong, sudden, exciting, and volatile sexual attraction.
-The strongest sexual attraction indicator between you is the fact that together you form a Sexual Yod - Your Mars sextile his Venus is forming that yod with his Venus-Pluto quincunx. That is a POWERFUL sexual yod. He will feel like your Mars can provide an outlet for his Pluto-Venus quincunx. Non sexually, this energy can lead to major power struggles over sex, among other things. Quite frankly, that yod will make you just want to go right at each other in one way or another. The point opposite the Pluto apex is where you will feel the brunt of this energy, and that falls into your 6th house and near his Jupiter. Now, since his Pluto and Jupiter form a T-square with his Mars, and his Venus trines his Mars, then most of the forceful energy triggered in that yod is going to be channeled right at his Mars. This can cause him to feel an intense sexual attraction toward you, but can also cause major argument, fights, and possibly violence.
-Since his Mars sits right on your 3rd house N.Node, you will feel this energy mostly in your 3rd house areas of life. You WILL feel it. There is no doubt in my mind about that. It could mean a myriad of things, from great sexting and sexual conversations (Aq.Mars on 3rd house NN), to verbal arguments and fights (maybe even over or during sex). It could even be as simple as fights over online dating. Basically anything that mixes Aquarius matters with 3rd house matters and Mars matters; you get the gist of it.

-I do see red flags, though. They don't mean things are unworkable, but they do indicate that he may bring emotional pain and hurt to you.
-His Chiron on your 7th house Sun. Ouch. You can bring each other very bittersweet pain, but also healing. Often, Chiron conj. Sun can mean the Chiron person wounds the Sun persons sense of trust. They may violate your trust and make it hard for you to trust again, at least as openly. I had this with my brother-in-law, who I had believed loved me like I was his own sister, but he betrayed me, violated my trust, and became a living example to me of "fair weather friend". It was healing to me, though, because I learned a valuable lesson to not trust so naively. I learned that trust must be earned, and now I do not trust anyone so blindly. I gained wisdom.
-His Saturn and Uranus are squaring your Moon. This can bring you much pain. With Uranus being involved, it can be sudden, unexpected pain, and could be related to something like online-dating.

I do see some promising things, and attraction is absolutely there. I would just be prepared to live in-the-moment and accept it for what it is. I would also brace myself for possible hurt or heartbreak, so I would advise you not to open your heart too completely. You appear to be the more vulnerable party between the two of you.

Like I said... I'm not a professional, so take my insight for what it's worth. I just study astrology as a hobby.

Would you add these objects to the charts and post them?
-Eros, Psyche, Cupido, Valentine, Aphrodite, Adonis, Union, Destinn, Hera, Alma
-433,16,763,447,1388,2101,1585,6583,103,390

Also, add:
Juno, Ceres, Black Moon Lilith, and Pallas

Those objects will provide a lot more info.


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ikja
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posted October 27, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry

Composite

I am about to respond to aspects of your previous post! Thank you for your input so far! Very helpful! Doesn't matter if you're a beginner - still helpful. I've also read that Saturn in the first house isn't great either :-/ - it all started so well lol

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posted October 27, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With his Cupid conj your Eros, I think you might bring out his flirty side.

I can see the "eek factors" you mentioned...
You need to be careful preserving your emotional balance when interacting with him.
His Pluto oposite your Moon can be heavy.

His Sun on your Chiron can go both ways. It can feel uncomfortable but its also a potential for growth by solving issues.

I like the fact that there is only a trine aspect to his Mars in Aries. I wouldn't want to have hard aspects in synastry with another person's strongest planets.

Off course he can handle rude and cheeky, Aries Moon and Mars :-D

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posted October 27, 2015 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an exact Sun/Chiron conjunction with a friend
We also have Moon conj Moon to balance it out..

Uh.. yeah this aspect is strange. He used to be my personal trainer! We met at work, hit it off as friends, he's definitely someone I trust for great advice, vice versa for him. He introduced me to weightlifting, I introduced him to money budgeting.

It's a healing relationship. BUT. We also have a tendency to knowingly hurt each other with our words. Sometimes we can be unnecessarily biting towards one another when we wouldn't usually be with anyone else. He's hurt my feelings a couple of times and I know I've done the same with him.

He's still a great friend though and we love each other. It's a weird aspect though.

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posted October 27, 2015 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soltze:
With his Cupid conj your Eros, I think you might bring out his flirty side.

I can see the "eek factors" you mentioned...
You need to be careful preserving your emotional balance when interacting with him.
His Pluto oposite your Moon can be heavy.

His Sun on your Chiron can go both ways. It can feel uncomfortable but its also a potential for growth by solving issues.

I like the fact that there is only a trine aspect to his Mars in Aries. I wouldn't want to have hard aspects in synastry with another person's strongest planets.

Off course he can handle rude and cheeky, Aries Moon and Mars :-D


Funnily enough, he made a cheeky comment today during our telephone conversation 😂
When you say that I need to becareful preserving my emotional balance, what do you mean exactly? You suggesting that he may exploit my emotions?

At present, his sun conjunct my Chiron feels quite nice. However, we haven't met up and started a conversation. So, maybe I will change my mind lol

The fact that he can handle rude/cheeky is so appealing! My Mars isn't overactive either and this makes me so happy because that pent up aggressive isn't there and I like that so much.

Thank you for you response S.! xx

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posted October 27, 2015 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
I have an exact Sun/Chiron conjunction with a friend
We also have Moon conj Moon to balance it out..

Uh.. yeah this aspect is strange. He used to be my personal trainer! We met at work, hit it off as friends, he's definitely someone I trust for great advice, vice versa for him. He introduced me to weightlifting, I introduced him to money budgeting.

It's a healing relationship. BUT. We also have a tendency to knowingly hurt each other with our words. Sometimes we can be unnecessarily biting towards one another when we wouldn't usually be with anyone else. He's hurt my feelings a couple of times and I know I've done the same with him.

He's still a great friend though and we love each other. It's a weird aspect though.


Thanks for giving me an insight into how this aspect may manifest I definitely think he can teach me a lot about myself. He is always asking me questions about things that have happened to me and I realise that he is bringing them to my attention lol. I really hope it doesn't hurt too much! He is such a cool guy from what I've found so far!!! I love moon aspects, they definitely help to soothe out other rough aspects!

Thank you for your contribution A Xx

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posted October 27, 2015 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wild Horses... I'm coming back X

EDIT (27/10/15): I need to be on a computer for your post because it's so detailed. Will be back later today after the gym!

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posted October 27, 2015 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just know that with your Saturn square his Mercury/Sun the rude/cheeky might only work out to a point--be careful not to belittle him or let the jokes turn to real jabs and criticism. That could get heavy quick--but needn't. And yeah it could be he even enjoys that kind of thing--i haven't looked closely enough... but I've been Saturn in aSaturn Mercury square and it helps to remind myself to respect his intellect...

There's a lot of love and appreciation in the charts but yeah, just remember to remain respectful of the validity of his point of view and his unique life energy and things could go really well.

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posted October 27, 2015 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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From Soltze:

Off course he can handle rude and cheeky, Aries Moon and Mars :-D


It isn't him with the Aries Moon and Mars.

This is much more important to the OP...

The final dispositor of most of his planets is Saturn... He's probably actually a pretty serious person and he's going to end up squashing that natural optimism and effusive/cheeky side in some ways, with the Saturn Moon square... to be honest. There's good stuff too, but it isn't him with Moon and Mars in Aries... his Sun is cusping and with Jupiter and the Moon in Taurus he's really a lover of slow, deep, steady proportions...

The dispositor of his Moon is Venus in Gemini though so i can see him feeling comfortable about socializing in a cheeky way and letting off a few zingers here and there, certainly a lively conversationalist at heart... but then look at the dispositor of Venus--it's Mercury of course, which is in Aries there, square your Saturn... then we see the dispositor of Mercury (AND the Sun!) is conjunct your North Node, which shows that the point at which he is going to affect your life's mission most profoundly perhaps, and the evolution of your understanding, is when he acts on this sequence of factors in his chart--probably an active, lively, talkative energy informed by a deeply grounded emotional being. It's probably a good feeling, overall--but we have the square from your Saturn, putting the pressure on for him to communicate, one way or another, you are wanting to hear what he's going to say, and you're going to be judging it, compartmentalizing to a certain degree--and that's going to bring itself to bear on how his Mars manifests on your North Node.

The dispositor of Mars is Uranus, which is conjunct Saturn (the final dispositor). So he's got a fiery streak and an impulsiveness and suddenness is going to bring itself to bear on his actions and then become fairly uncompromising and firm, overall. This might be nice and balancing for you.. but you're definitely going to feel the weight of his Saturn in this relationship at some point. Maybe you would like that? But from your natal i think probably somebody a tiny bit more light hearted in relation to you might be more up your alley. Still, i could be wrong! I just worry that his Taurus stuff is a little more... proud... than you've bargained for.

You might be just the right medicine for one another though and have a beautiful relationship/exchange. Don't take my words for gospel! Just offering an opinion. There's a lot of positivity here. Just be aware of the potential for difficulty, cause it's there.

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posted October 27, 2015 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Neptune is indeed square your Mars, the dispositor of your Moon. You could get quickly excited and emotionally stimulated by him without fully understanding all the realities of the scenario.

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posted October 28, 2015 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Just know that with your Saturn square his Mercury/Sun the rude/cheeky might only work out to a point--be careful not to belittle him or let the jokes turn to real jabs and criticism. That could get heavy quick--but needn't. And yeah it could be he even enjoys that kind of thing--i haven't looked closely enough... but I've been Saturn in aSaturn Mercury square and it helps to remind myself to respect his intellect...

There's a lot of love and appreciation in the charts but yeah, just remember to remain respectful of the validity of his point of view and his unique life energy and things could go really well.


I see this acting out already lol.
I know, I need to behave myself sometimes. I think that I can have a serious conversation, but I try to avoid having them because I don't know if it's safe lol - that's probably my Scorpio Ascendant coming out there! I know he respects me when I talk, but I've definitely got to try to work on listening to him more and making sure he feels heard and valued. Definitely take that on board.

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posted October 28, 2015 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a lot in your chart which would tend towards avoiding heavy seriousness, the lovely self contained Aries energy and Gemini, and Venus just enjoying herself in the Taurean realm of embodied pleasure and simplicity-- but things probably get intense and beyond your usual depths fairly often and in ways somewhat beyond your control because your chart ruler Pluto is in the 12th house--along with Juno! So it might be rare for you to be fully conscious of just how must sway and weight the whole concept of intimate committed union has for you, and how much you affect the world at large--but it's kind of a big deal and it sounds like you are in fact at least somewhat aware of that. It's greatthat you're approaching the whole thing with an open heart! Sounds like you might have been burned in the past-- try to integrate that deep side of yourself in relationships because it's important, potent energy which, if given credence and worked with and acknowledged, could be a great strength of yours--in relating to the big picture, you have access to a lot of power and control. If you don't make it conscious it's likely to permeate things anyway, but it will seem to control you... Nothing to be afraid of here, it's intimate energy for you personally to explore... does this make sense?

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posted October 28, 2015 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So interesting that your Pluto falls on his MC. It might become more visible with the advent of this relationship somehow.

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posted October 29, 2015 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping up so I remember to respond x

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