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Lumi0
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posted October 26, 2015 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 27, 2015 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone, please? Perhaps I should edit the post and make it shorter....:/

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posted October 27, 2015 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, not offering interpretations here but suggesting that a shorter post would help. I don't think the aspects chart is needed, as aspects are showing quite clearly in diagram. Also the aspects need to be kept tighter, say up to 4 degrees in the astro.com charts. This means fewer lines - the focus is on the most effective.

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posted October 27, 2015 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Sorry, not offering interpretations here but suggesting that a shorter post would help. I don't think the aspects chart is needed, as aspects are showing quite clearly in diagram. Also the aspects need to be kept tighter, say up to 4 degrees in the astro.com charts. This means fewer lines - the focus is on the most effective.

Done and done. I left some details in, mainly because they might be reflective of the aspects themselves. The reason I added the aspect chart is because you don't always know if the blue lines are sextiles or trines. Also, the aspect lines in the synastry chart are ONLY between the planets, not Asteroids.

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posted October 27, 2015 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just dropping in to say, I like the aspect grid.

What is it about these aspects that worry you?

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posted October 27, 2015 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Just dropping in to say, I like the aspect grid.

Im glad! Im just trying to make it as easy as possible for people to read and check the important stuff!

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posted October 27, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your drive and possibily your sexuality and other things involving travel knowledge school attract him a lot because 9 ruler in the 8th house im aries is conjunct both of his midpoint sun/moon; venus/Mars he defently finds you attractive and mysterious. Will look more into the synastry. Editing...

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posted October 28, 2015 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Your drive and possibily your sexuality and other things involving travel knowledge school attract him a lot because 9 ruler in the 8th house im aries is conjunct both of his midpoint sun/moon; venus/Mars he defently finds you attractive and mysterious. Will look more into the synastry. Editing...


Thanks for replying, I'll keep waiting for that edit!

Im currently very uncertain about whether or not to continue talking to him. He's a few years younger than me and even though its not much, I find that Im still managing to take the 'teacher' role in the "relationship" when it comes to some things.

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posted October 29, 2015 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just checked our progressed charts and we have a bunch of MUTUAL classic natal/progressed aspects. I had no idea...

My natal Sun trine his p.Venus
–His p.Venus conjunct my n.MC
–My n.Venus trine his p.Mars
-My n.MC conjunct his p.MC

–My p.Sun opposite his n.Venus
-His n.Mars opposite my p.ASC

Now Im wondering if these might be able to "trump" the synastry Venus/Saturn opposition, Mars/Saturn square and so on...

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posted October 29, 2015 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Sounds promising. I'm also in love with the opposed Sun/Moon phase natal synastry which generates a high degree of completion and attraction. Yours waxing trine, him waning sextile.

Are the progressed Sun/Venus aspects applying? By how many degrees? And Venus/Mars?

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posted October 29, 2015 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
^ Sounds promising. I'm also in love with the opposed Sun/Moon phase natal synastry which generates a high degree of completion and attraction. Yours waxing trine, him waning sextile.

Are the progressed Sun/Venus aspects applying? By how many degrees? And Venus/Mars?


Hiya, thanks for replying! I also had no idea you could check the Sun/Moon phase for synastry, so thanks for pointing it out for me!

My natal Sun trine his p.Venus is 2°A
My p.Sun opposite his n.Venus is S, but 1°43 degrees.
My n.Venus trine his p.Mars is 1°S

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posted October 29, 2015 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you have a hard time trusting him? just asking cause you have neptune square mercury and that could be a reason why you feel like you can't trust him or feel like you just can't go the distance with him. he's totally enamored by you though his vertex conjunct your 8 ruler neptune in the 5th i do have to put it out there.

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posted October 29, 2015 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 29, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lumi0:
I have a hard time trusting anyone with my feelings. Venus in 12th trine Mars R in 8th + square Pluto in 3rd doesn't make things easy. Not to mention my Pluto=Sun/Moon.

Also, because I have mainly been concentrating on the Saturn+Mars aspects in the synastry, I had COMPLETELY ignored the mutual Mercury/Neptune aspect...But I don't think he's lying to me, so I can't say that I don't trust what he tells me.

I still haven't shown him my picture and like I mentioned in my original post, Im worried that he might get really serious about me once he sees it. Not that I don't want him to, its just that I need to be [b]equally invested in this. But to be honest, Im scared out of my wits. I haven't been in a relationship in ages and the last thing I want is to get hurt, so that is why I wanted advice from other synastry experts here. [/B]


oh i see, i dont think he would be lying to you but i do feel that aspect could lead to you feeling like you cant trust him when it comes to communication. i think if you shwoed him the picture i almsot bet he would be very enamoured by your looks.

and awwww im sorry about your venus in the 12th house, it could also mean that your attracted to neptunian people, you love mysterious people at least i guess that by looking at your venus in the 12th house.

Pluto on your sun/moon midpoint is defently transformative and i could see the intense fears there as well.
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posted October 29, 2015 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is also on my Sun/Moon midpoint, conjunct within 1, so yea... I get the whole trust issue. BUT... that is all over when you meet that equal weight of investment . This placement signifies a HUGE transformation and seems to be prone to many losses in life (hence the renewal) and I guess that's where our strong desire for equality will emerge and begins to manifest as a result. This to underline the words sounding so familiar here ;D

OK, back to the progressions!

What I very much would like to see now is action/urgency in the "personal progressed Sun/Moon cycle" with one or both, the cause of friction which leads us to ANY new start, including relationships. For that, we look at a 4th harmonic cycle (square/opposition/conj.) from the progressed Moon to the progressed Sun OR from the progressed Moon to the natal Sun.

.. anything to find there?

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posted October 30, 2015 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for minabot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very unique composite! Big expectations and close hearts. Spiritual connection? Concern is will real problems you see in life create distance. He cannot be your saving and you cannot be his in the real time, in dreams in romance, yes. But real time life has demands, can you meet demands and keep dream alive? A creative fix you BOTH have to find together. Open about fears and worries, do not hide! If in this you give yourself totally! Intimacy is yours but only if you face the highs and lows together. Hiding or lies will ruin everything. Delicate! This one will hurt if sour after the highs

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posted October 30, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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angel4845

and awwww im sorry about your venus in the 12th house, it could also mean that your attracted to neptunian people, you love mysterious people at least i guess that by looking at your venus in the 12th house.

Pluto on your sun/moon midpoint is defently transformative and i could see the intense fears there as well.[/B]


I do like Neptunian people, true, but if anything, I just like sensitive men, since Im not particularly "sensitive" myself. At least outwardly! And yes Pluto=Sun/Moon is really significant. I keep going through different transformational changes all the time. Thanks for replying again, Angel!

Mir
Ahhh, someone understands me! Its also such a mysterious midpoint, comparing to Mercury=Sun/Moon etc. Very powerful indeed.

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What I very much would like to see now is action/urgency in the "personal progressed Sun/Moon cycle" with one or both, the cause of friction which leads us to ANY new start, including relationships. For that, we look at a 4th harmonic cycle (square/opposition/conj.) from the progressed Moon to the progressed Sun OR from the progressed Moon to the natal Sun.

I "currently" (entering on Nov) have progressed Moon square natal Sun (I have this in my natal chart as well. Bit tricky to manage, I admit) He doesn't have any progressed aspects between Sun/Moon right now.

Not sure if I mentioned it, but I find that his Mars/Moon in 8th house comes through a lot in our discussions in these sort of sexual innuendo jokes. Occasionally they can border on the immature (Saturn speaking here, I admit!), but at the same time, I don't want him to change either, because what causes me discomfort helps me understand myself better. Mars in the 8th house trining Pluto in the 4th (one of his closest aspects) explains a lot as well. Midpoints worth mentioning that he has are ASC=Sun/Pluto, Mars=Venus/Pluto + Pluto=Sun/Moon & Sun=Venus/Pluto (I have the latter of these two as well, so its not like Im completely unprepared... )

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That is such good advice Mina, thank you! Im not sure if this can be considered a spiritual connection though and its definitely not a soul connection either. His Pisces Moon is happy fantasising, just like my Venus in 12th, so we have that in common, at least. And I agree that if things turn sour, it will definitely hurt. I guess that says something about the connection.

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posted October 31, 2015 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for minabot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find your thread, finally! You're welcome and happy meetings for you!

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posted November 01, 2015 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by minabot:
I find your thread, finally! You're welcome and happy meetings for you!

Thanks for the well wishes, mina!

Im currently thinking that I should stop all communications with him (not the first time, either). I can't quite figure him out as a person and I don't like wasting my time, which occasionally I feel like I am. He comes across as a bit of a hot and cold person, which is something I dislike, but since he's difficult to crack...Im simply getting tired of trying and not sure what to do.

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posted November 03, 2015 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though I know this thread has gathered very little interest, I thought it would be interesting to post the EVENT chart for the moment I finally decided to show him my picture. I have the exact time and everything, so its to the minute!

EVENT CHART

–Eros/Mercury conjunct ASC (2°)
–Venus conjunct Mars exact (0°)
–Moon sextile both Venus/Jupiter
–Mercury&Sun in 1st house
–NN trine Vertex

Midpoints:
Mars=Jupiter/NN (Satisfying partnership. Ambitious couple. Fruitful union)
ASC=Plu/MC (sense of destiny, profound realizations, compulsive urges)
Jup=Sun/Moon (High expectations. Physical/emotional fulfillment. Optimism, confidence and resilience. Mutually satisfying advantageous partnerships)
Venus=Jup/NN (Happy and fulfilling social and emotional ties. Satisfying partnerships in love. Harmonious and successful relationships.)

HIM (inside) + EVENT

His chart is being ”lighted” by the event with a lot of oppositions from the event chart and and angle conjunctions.

–Event MC conjunct his ASC (3°A)
–ASC opposite ASC (3°A)
–Event Mercury/Eros conjunct his natal IC (0°)
–Event Eros opposite his natal Eros (0°)
–His n.Venus opposite e.ASC (2°S)
–His natal Venus conjunct event DSC (2°S)
–Sun opposite Sun
–Event Venus/Mars opposite his natal Mars (0°)
–Event Mercury opposite his n.Venus (4°s)

ME (inside) + EVENT

No angle conjunctions, but the synastry is conjunctional.

–Event Mercury/Eros/Sun in my 3rd house of communications
–Event Sun conjunct natal Pluto (1°A)
–My Sun conjunct e.Venus/Mars/NN (3°a-2°s-3°a)
–My n.Eros conjunct e.DSC (3°A)
–Event Eros opposite n.Eros (1°A)
–Event Venus/Mars square natal Saturn (3-2°A)

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posted December 13, 2015 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 05, 2016 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 05, 2016 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lumi0:
Well, we broke up. He realised the seriousness of the relationship (Our Venus/Saturn aspects) and decided to choose someone else from his past over me (to avoid commitment, since that girl will never be in a relationship with him anyway).

[b]Someone should have seriously warned me of his Mars/Moon Pisces in the 8th house... They don't settle down easily.

Anyway, now that I've cut him out of my life, he keeps sending me messages about nonsense. [/B]


I'm sorry to hear about that Lumi.

Have you tried looking into Progressions? You can find answers there as well to see what influence you two are also going through as well right now.

are birth time's accurate by the way?

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posted January 05, 2016 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi luni0

I have found that long distance relationships,( I assume a internet connection) are very tricky if there are adverse Saturn/Neptune aspects or midpoints.

in this composite the Saturn/Neptune midpoint is conjunct to mercury which throws up a red flag as this can show insincerity or out right misrepresentation of facts.

mars square the vertex and the amore/lust conjunction suggest a relationship on physical characteristics only, rather than a intimate emotional hookup.

the Jupiter/chiron conjunction opposed to Saturn does not lend to a romantic hookup as it shows a inclination for control rather than love. this is a bit tricky because the psyche/eros midpoint is conjunct to Jupiter/Chiron/Saturn . this implies a attraction to his strong authoritative bearing.
with the mars/venus midpoint square to the nodal axis and to destiny, there is no question that the chemistry between you is very hot and bothered... even feeling a possible soul mate in the making.

with both the mars/Uranus and mars/Neptune midpoint conjunct the descendant, his tendency is shown to be more of a player than a seeker of a committed relationship.

the juno/jupoiter midpoint is conjunct the east point(opposite the vertex), so coupled with the mars square, it seems that he likely is acting as he is interested in a serious relationship or even marriage. at any rate this pattern does show that commitment or marriage seems to be in the offing. just keep in mind that vertex aspects can b e very powerful but often these aspect do not harmonize with the rest of the chart.
it seems the relationship, though mutual attractive, is not based on a relationship but some common professional/business/ educational goal or endeavor.
the node squared the composite vertex at1cap43 on aug 13th
the south node transited the composite mars at 0aries41 from the 20 of October to the 28th. the node square the juno/Jupiter midpoint at 29gem34 on nov 14th.
I would think that the relationship began sometime in this periods.
if true then it seems you immediately felt a committed relationship was possible with him.
these vibrations have past so you may be wondering now what happened.
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posted January 06, 2016 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lumi0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm sorry to hear about that Lumi.

Have you tried looking into Progressions? You can find answers there as well to see what influence you two are also going through as well right now.

are birth time's accurate by the way?


Hi Angel, future Progressions (our prog/natal +prog/prog) was what I looked at when we got involved immediately, and the reason I thought the relationship WOULD continue was because there was nothing there for the next few years that pointed towards a breakup. If anything, his progressed Saturn opposite my natal Venus (5°A for the next few years) was what I believed signaled a serious relationship and the deepening of the bond, but guess I was wrong. The mutual Sun/Venus from progressed to natal (opposition/trine) for the next few years also bode well, in my eyes.

And yes, the times are accurate.

I'll add that my p.Venus will be conjunct my natal SN in February. An aspect that I believe has already been active for a few months. P.SUN/MOON sextile n.Sun will also be exact in Feb.

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Originally posted by todd:
hi luni0

I have found that long distance relationships,( I assume a internet connection) are very tricky if there are adverse Saturn/Neptune aspects or midpoints.


Todd...I wish I had known you were around at the time when this relationship started, because I did have serious worries about the composite. But since a lot of people say its not in effect until the two are together, I ended up paying more attention to the synastry and progressions than anything else.

I also made the mistake of not even looking at the composite midpoints, which is something I won't repeat again.

The closest midpoints in the composite we had were MC=MO/ASC, second being Uranus=Ne/VX and third, Saturn=MO/Ne. Fourth? Mars=Ve/Ne.
8 (out of 23) of these Direct Midpoints involved Vertex, which is seen by so many as fated, but as you said, they don’t seem to harmonize with the rest of the chart.

I'll include (ALL DIRECT):
MC=Ve/Ma
Venus=Sa/Plu
Su=Mo/Vx
Me=Su/Vx
Vx=ASC/MC
VX=Sun/Ve

I knew the relationship would be very physical if we ever got together, something that in my opinion the EROS/EROS in the Synastry and the 8th/5th house overlay explained very well, but that also ended up being one of the reasons he wanted to separate. (!)

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with both the mars/Uranus and mars/Neptune midpoint conjunct the descendant, his tendency is shown to be more of a player than a seeker of a committed relationship.

Ouch...Yeah. Again, wish I had known this.

Todd, a question that might be difficult to answer but one I still need to ask, do you think its truly over? Because I don't know if its intuition or something else, but I feel like our relationship is not over, which is making it difficult for me to decide how to proceed.

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