posted November 03, 2015 10:15 AM            

And it doesn't have to be a planet conjunct your angle or in the cusp. It can be a square, opposition etc..

posted November 04, 2015 01:37 AM            

With T, his Sun trines my MC 0°. I can feel his Sun triggering my Midheaven. He inspires me to better myself in every way and to set goals and reach for them. He brings out a concern for my public persona, the future, and all things Midheaven related.

Also, his Pluto is right on my IC. Feel that one to my core.

Going the other way, my Mars is sitting on his Midheaven. Basically, his MC triggers my Mars. That involves lots of things, but specifically, at it's most basic, everytime I see him working, or even just dressed for work, I want to jump his bones right there on the spot. So, I can absolutely feel his MC setting off my Mars.

His AC conj. my Uranus, and his DC is conjunct my Chiron. I've felt both of those angles of his trigger what they are touching in my chart.

So, in my experience, the planet is activated by the angle and the angle is activated by the planet.

posted November 05, 2015 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I always feel it both ways. I can feel it when my angle is being contacted, and I can feel it just as strongly when I'm the planet hitting their angle. For me, they both trigger each other.

With T, his Sun trines my MC 0°. I can feel his Sun triggering my Midheaven. He inspires me to better myself in every way and to set goals and reach for them. He brings out a concern for my public persona, the future, and all things Midheaven related.

Also, his Pluto is right on my IC. Feel that one to my core.

Going the other way, my Mars is sitting on his Midheaven. Basically, his MC triggers my Mars. That involves lots of things, but specifically, at it's most basic, everytime I see him working, or even just dressed for work, I want to jump his bones right there on the spot. So, I can absolutely feel his MC setting off my Mars.

His AC conj. my Uranus, and his DC is conjunct my Chiron. I've felt both of those angles of his trigger what they are touching in my chart.

So, in my experience, the planet is activated by the angle and the angle is activated by the planet.

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YUP! I was just going to say in my edits that the 4 angles are RAW PRIMAL energy points. They are both active as well as receptive and when a planet touches it both individuals will feel its impact..

posted November 05, 2015 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
YUP! I was just going to say in my edits that the 4 angles are RAW PRIMAL energy points. They are both active as well as receptive and when a planet touches it both individuals will feel its impact..

Would you say Mars on the midheaven or sign of the midheaven produces big sexual attraction for you?

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YES! Without a doubt. Basically, what I've found is that when we are attracted to someone, then the spot in their chart that hits our Mars represents the area where we are THE most raw in our attraction. It's the thing about them that makes us just feel that raw Martian sexual urge.

With the guy I mentioned, there are lots of things about him I find attractive. His personality, character, looks, etc are all attractive to me, and while I think he's gorgeous ALL the time, the times the attraction is the most "Good grief, I can't even be around him right now I want him so bad" is when he is in his work environment and wearing the things he wears in that environment. So, as far as plain Mars physical attraction goes, I can feel his MC setting off my Mars like fireworks.

posted November 05, 2015 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
... the times the attraction is the most "Good grief, I can't even be around him right now I want him so bad" is when he is in his work environment and wearing the things he wears in that environment. So, as far as plain Mars physical attraction goes, I can feel his MC setting off my Mars like fireworks.

It might show up in different ways for different people, but the theme would be the same. Say if a woman were dating a military officer, she might think he's gorgeous all the time, but when she sees him in his uniform, she just might lose her mind and want him on the spot. It could be a man dating a ballet dancer, and when he watches her on stage performing he can barely contain himself. So, basically, any time we see them acting out their MC, our Mars is set off strongly.

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While I think your theory is sound, that's way too common of an experience -- attraction to men in a suit or in uniform, or, for a man, attraction to a woman in fitted clothing exhibiting her femininity -- to be able to pinpoint this as the cause of that, for example.

Now, if you told me that his JUPITER in Sagittarius is conjunct your MARS with THALIA, and you just go bonkers when he wants to bang you a la Bozo -- then you may have a point. Or maybe he wears unusual attire at work, and you still find it super-sexy.

But we all dig men in suits. I'm asexual -- and I dig men in suits.

Besides, it's not the suit, but the symbol. It's a classic feminine 'oooh!' button to see a man in a position of power, commanding his environment with confidence and calm. We like that. The medial prefrontal cortex is all, 'hey, amygdala -- whazzup, homes?' -- and it makes it rain. Dopamine. All of this is, of course immediate, for the most part, with the overall take-home being the beginnings of arousal. Because, primates. At heart, we're still monkeys. 'Romantic decision-making', so to speak, is linked to a smorgasbord of things, with some of the biggest ones being things which relate to, or are directly associated with, other things that are primal in their origination.

But hey, testing out your theory, lessee ...

My MARS is 5º40 off of his ASC. (I know, because his ASC is 5º45 SAG, and my MARS is 0º05 SAG.)

Well, as it's already been mentioned, we're asexuals. In a sexual relationship with each other -- even if it's terribly complicated a lot of the time.

Conversely, his MARS is conjunct my SUN, 2º.

So, I've always been somewhat aware of the fact that we've each got MARS on one of our Big Three -- my SUN, his ASC. I suppose that makes a very core-level, innate, basic-identity sort of sexual attraction.

posted November 05, 2015 10:09 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
I completely agree with you but I find that angle-touching is extremely one sided in comparison to pure planetary aspects. People that have hit on my IC have absolutely, deeply affected me, but the impact is almost non-existent for them (or it exists, but as a natural result of interpersonal closeness, not due to mutual, intense astrology).

For example, my Moon is on my bf's DC. He states he felt love at first sight the second he saw me, and swore to everyone I would be his gf. He didn't have that immediate impact on me at all - it wasn't until we became a couple when I started to feel surges of electric emotion (his Mars/Vertex is on my IC)

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So if people on the angles feel it more then the planet/asteroid/vertex owner. WOULD the ASC owner see me as the perfect partner? My JUNO CONJUNCT THERE ASC AND MY GOD WHEN I FIRST SAW HIM HE WAS PERFECT IN MY EYES AS JUNO.....

posted November 06, 2015 12:35 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
So if people on the angles feel it more then the planet/asteroid/vertex owner. WOULD the ASC owner see me as the perfect partner? My JUNO CONJUNCT THERE ASC AND MY GOD WHEN I FIRST SAW HIM HE WAS PERFECT IN MY EYES AS JUNO.....

But wonder if he feels the same at all??

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posted November 06, 2015 12:51 AM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Its not one-sided/ Trust me. Angles are both active and receptive so Planets feel it as well

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Respectfully disagree my dude. I've had IC contacts many a time with major people in my life and the effects are simply not on the same level for both people. This isn't to say it's completely in favor for the planet, but the lasting psychological/emotional effects are in the angle person. In fact what even led me to that conclusion was years of searching this forum trying to understand the nature of the connection and time and time again, the IC person ended up getting shafted in the relationship

When it comes to composites as a shared energy though, that's an entirely different ballpark, especially when an individual's natal chart has specific planets falling on the composite's axis'

Of course we're two different people with different life experiences, but my theories come backed plenty of sample sizes and hard won experience

posted November 06, 2015 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Of course we're two different people with different life experiences, but my theories come backed plenty of sample sizes and hard won experience

In fact this entire post is written from the perspective of the angle person, is it not?

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posted November 06, 2015 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Sample sizes? You're speakin' my language! They're never statistically significant, though, are they? There's always the rub, in my experience.

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Oh absolutely! It's infuriating because let's imagine I was someone that had significant IC relationships with 1,000 different men out of 2,500 men who didn't have IC contacts with me
I study the ebb and flow of the undercurrants of the relationship, I evaluate who initiated the ending of such, I intuit (because no one wants to seem like the "loser" when walking away from a crumbled partnership and is honest about this sort of thing) who is more torn up approximately... 16 months after everything is said and done
But then.. how many accurate birth times do I have for these 1,000 men to gauge if my planets touched their IC? Then we'd understand how mutual it really was if it was a two-way street
Then the sample size would dwindle if we were taking into consideration DW's
Out of this smaller number... let's say 230 men are left. Then the real pickle [rim shot]:
How many of these men are rounding up their birth time for me to even know this?
How many of them were adopted and were just giving me a random birth time for the hell of it?
How many of these men will be honest if I were to truly evaluate their emotional landscape 16 months later?

In the end I'm just left with... me
And my happenings

Really though NYC if you want to go through the old threads of IC contacts it's a really illuminating subject to study first hand - in fact it's what got me obsessed with angle contacts in synastry

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=ic%20contacts%20synastry%20site%3Alinda-goodman.com

posted November 06, 2015 01:37 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Respectfully disagree my dude. I've had IC contacts many a time with major people in my life and the effects are simply not on the same level for both people. This isn't to say it's completely in favor for the planet, but the lasting psychological/emotional effects are in the angle person. In fact what even led me to that conclusion was years of searching this forum trying to understand the nature of the connection and time and time again, the IC person ended up getting shafted in the relationship

When it comes to composites as a shared energy though, that's an entirely different ballpark, especially when an individual's natal chart has specific planets falling on the composite's axis'

Of course we're two different people with different life experiences, but my theories come backed plenty of sample sizes and hard won experience

In fact this entire post is written from the perspective of the angle person, is it not?

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Might it be reasonable to presume that the IC is the least "active" of the angles and so the rules are a little different? Or, the IC just doesn't serve as a potent attractor in general because it is the underbelly of the chart, the dark night of the soul, and not exactly designed to please/be attractive?

It is us at midnight. It is our hair bedraggled and our addictive Web surfing. It is our need to pee at night, our gazing at the stars and the snow and the smoke out a darkened window--yes it's beautiful! --if the other person is attuned to us on more than one level, the most profound beauty can be found there!... but maybe they need to have a healthy relationship with IC energy--like a Plutonian "gets" a Plutonian, an IC friendly person knows how to see the beauty inherent in the rawness of the undisclosed self... or, perhaps more likely, the rest of the synastry and composite need to be pretty on the ball for the planet person to love the IC person in all their bedraggled glory..

We can't say a person whose Asc contacts somebody else's Venus is necessarily more or less smitten than Venus! Venus is likely head over heels.

Or take my recent relationship--his Mars on my midheaven. He would be here in a *heartbeat* if I still wanted him here. Unfortunately I don't take kindly to MC contacts in general as my PLUTO and Merc are square that point... heh.

Dsc contacts can also elicit a lasting feeling of bondedness, mutual appreciation, feeling seen and understood and as though a real effort is being made by the DSC person. It is a sister of the IC but the older and more world weary one who knows how to put on the pretty face. The Asc can't even think before it acts, it just is. The dsc is a thinker, Libran...

I can imagine that the feeling of rejection as the IC person with a significant synastric planetary conjunction would be rather intense and memorable... because this person has gone to the depths, seen your core, gotten under your shell, experienced whatever other aspects of the relationship there are (which are key), and... chosen to leave... The IC is the most prone to abandonment and the most sensitive to it because it is in some ways inert... like a crab, it's only defense is to hunker inside a shell and side step a little but it can't get very far if somebody is shining a light up in there! And if they don't seem to like what they see that can be profoundly painful..

posted November 06, 2015 01:41 AM              

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

Might it be reasonable to presume that the IC is the least "active" of the angles and so the rules are a little different?

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posted November 06, 2015 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Its not one-sided/ Trust me. Angles are both active and receptive so Planets feel it as well

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posted November 06, 2015 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Respectfully disagree my dude. I've had IC contacts many a time with major people in my life and the effects are simply not on the same level for both people. This isn't to say it's completely in favor for the planet, but the lasting psychological/emotional effects are in the angle person. In fact what even led me to that conclusion was years of searching this forum trying to understand the nature of the connection and time and time again, the IC person ended up getting shafted in the relationship

When it comes to composites as a shared energy though, that's an entirely different ballpark, especially when an individual's natal chart has specific planets falling on the composite's axis'

Of course we're two different people with different life experiences, but my theories come backed plenty of sample sizes and hard won experience

In fact this entire post is written from the perspective of the angle person, is it not?

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It depends. I've had several IC contacts and I don't relate to everything you are saying. In fact, I was the one who pretty much held the reigns. It could be a self-awareness thing. Maybe you don't connect with your IC well enough for it to show and control where things are going. Which is why you feel dominated by them..

My IC is in Gemini and I attract them like magnets (and Sags being its my MC). They cling to me fairly easily, but I still know where things are going...

The MC/IC axis is very different from the ASC/DSC because it is meant to evolve and change throughout our lives.

posted November 06, 2015 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just wanting to point out that, too, that the IC is of course a very special place in the chart, the most receptive of all possible points (even though all angles are receptive of course, but IC - and to a degree- DESC seem just even more receptive)

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posted November 06, 2015 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I don't believe it is the least active. They are all fairly equal and we show them pretty easily whether we realize it or not. But then again my MC/IC axis is at 0 degrees which is the strongest degree..

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posted November 08, 2015 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:

When it comes to composites as a shared energy though, that's an entirely different ballpark, especially when an individual's natal chart has specific planets falling on the composite's axis'

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Athenaia- Can you elaborate more on this? I have natal mars sitting exactly on the DSC of the composite chart with my BF- how do we interpret a natal planet on a composite angle differently than we would in synastry?

posted November 08, 2015 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I don't believe it is the least active. They are all fairly equal and we show them pretty easily whether we realize it or not. But then again my MC/IC axis is at 0 degrees which is the strongest degree..

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posted November 08, 2015 04:20 AM              

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I don't believe it is the least active.

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posted November 08, 2015 04:23 AM              

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Originally posted by AstroAJ:
it is more "hidden" from others just because it is at the bottom of the chart.

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It is more hidden, speaking astronomically, as it is below horizon, on the night-side of the chart.

However of course, if we let someone in there, touching it, it will make itself known just as any other angle.

posted November 08, 2015 09:22 AM            

His Mercury is widely conjunct my DSC. He's good at stimulating my demanding brain and I really like his voice.

posted November 08, 2015 09:43 AM            

So My Gem IC naturally makes me inquisitive and intellectual and this is easy to see when people take the time to know me. But this drives my Sag MC to do something on a broader scale with my natural talents