posted November 06, 2015 03:54 AM            

Not seeing much of a Cross here, to be frank. More a VENUS opposite MARS in CAN / CAP. But the Aries or Libra placements are too out of orb for me to really say it's a Cross doing it.

posted November 06, 2015 05:32 AM              

some astrologers do not allow calculated points as part of aspect figures.

posted November 06, 2015 07:35 AM              

Just something for smiles

"Venus of one partner in close aspect to Mars of the other. Especially when Venus belongs to the female partner and Mars to the male partner, this aspect is a hot combination denoting sexual compatibility.

posted November 06, 2015 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Hi LunaIscariot. I'm not sure if that is your real name on the charts, but if it is then you should erase it and repost the charts so that all of your personal information isn't showing.

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I'm beginning to wonder why we do that. I get that we do, and I understand why, but we aren't all a nice enough community to where, seeing our names and locations with birthdates isn't an issue?

posted November 06, 2015 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm beginning to wonder why we do that. I get that we do, and I understand why, but we aren't all a nice enough community to where, seeing our names and locations with birthdates isn't an issue?

I've just been thinking on this one for awhile. What does it even really matter? If someone wants to post their chart however, then it makes it a LOT easier to do so, without the headache of editing beforehand -- and so on.

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Relationships are complicated. I figure my guy wouldn't want to know i put our charts up for the whole world to dissect because he's quite a handful (so am I). I don't think I'm doing anything treacherous but it's one of these grey area things we do, like farting, you know that no one is proud of ...

It really depends on how much people know each other. Two people who just entered a relationship would be on the careful side towards each other.

posted November 06, 2015 02:30 PM            

You've got a natal SATURN opposite MARS, and before we discuss any synastry, you need to know what's going on with this singular time-bomb in your own natal. Thank heaven you're so young, and the world feels your oyster. But one day, it won't feel that way anymore, and the impact of your 10H Cap stellium and 6H MOON (and MARS), with that SATURN-MARS opposition may leave you feeling drained and burnt out before you feel as if your career has really taken off.

Not to mention, you're approaching your Nodal Return this year -- the conclusion of your first Saros cycle. The first 19 years of your life will feel like a distinct experience all their own, with everything up to that point being a 'before' and 'after'. Certain karma will be completed, and you'll begin working on new and heavier karma. And this is something you (and all of us) will be doing for the rest of your life.

So. Why's the SATURN opposite MARS such a big deal? It can show an innate lack of confidence, with a 12H SATURN, due to feeling disorganised and scattered; things your Cap VENUS does not like one bit. And, as SATURN is the dispositor of your Cap stellium, think of it as having a secret link between the two, where SATURN 'describes' the stellium, either providing energy -- or taking it away. In your case, we normally see this when someone's drive feels impeded by the circumstances of the house in which SATURN is placed.

In short, you may find it difficult to find your place in the world and society due to this sense that you aren't allowed your own sense of authority and personal power -- the latter's more of a Pluto issue, but Saturn is all about our relationship to authority; our own, and others'. The fact that SATURN is also in Aries -- which is ruled by MARS. Bear in mind, however, that SATURN in Aries is here to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and how to both power and balance its own ego -- neither at the mercy of others, nor losing itself to narcissism.

Thus, synastry does not occur within a vacuum. In order to have any idea of how his placements are affecting you, first, you've got to know how you are affecting you; follow?

To that end, it's his VENUS which is at the apex, or 'release point' of your SATURN-MARS opposition, forming a synastric T-Square. And, really, that's ALL you need to know to understand what's operating between you, which you're interpreting as a 'Cardinal Cross'.

Why not his MARS? Especially as it's in orb of your MARS, forming a viable square? Well, that's a 7º square -- for starters. And I don't count squares at 10º -- really, not even beyond 6º. So, in this respect, it's just not doing much -- comparative to VENUS.

And, believe me, for a man -- that matters.

So, let's focus upon what is being directly hit -- by 0º, no less! His VENUS.

Quick word of warning; when the closest aspect between a man and woman is the man's VENUS and the woman's MARS, the roles are innately reversed; she tends to chase, and he's more likely the receptive one, coyly seeking to be pursued. Some dig this, others don't. It all depends upon your natural orientation. Granted, your MARS is none too happy to take the lead, so this could cause some real frustration between you, if he isn't comfortable doing so.

Though, it won't be his MARS acting on it -- but the next in line: SATURN. This time, by opposition. 1º -- to your MARS. His VENUS square SATURN, too, is liable to bring up deep-seated issues with intimacy, incidentally.)

So we've got some tight, hard aspects among the attraction points -- VENUS, MARS -- and the ultimate wet blanket -- SATURN.

To that end, about the only thing that's left to bring in is his JUPITER at 8º Cap, which, makes a 2º square to his SATURN (tight) and opposes his VENUS (3º) -- also tight. Indeed, a natal T-Square between his VENUS-JUPITER and SATURN. Literally, JUPITER=VENUS/MARS (as it's on the far midpoint, by 0º-1º).

So, let's look at you again.

Taking his chart into account -- you're right; SATURN's not much the issue anymore. It's your MARS which takes centre-stage with the square to his VENUS (0º) -- that's 1º opposite his SATURN.

If you've got a Cardinal Cross, it's ---

5º LIB MARS (you)
5º CAN VENUS (him)
8º CAP JUP (him)
6º ARI SAT (him)

3º? Okay, I'll count it. It feels less like a true Cross and more like a pattern completion, supplied by your MARS in Libra -- for which the strongest aspect is his VENUS, a 0º square. This aspect will trump all. At the end of the day, it's your MARS and his VENUS, in frictional attraction.

If we're looking at the pattern -- and Lee is really great for that -- then it's your MARS completing his T-Square.

posted November 06, 2015 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Relationships are complicated. I figure my guy wouldn't want to know i put our charts up for the whole world to dissect because he's quite a handful (so am I). I don't think I'm doing anything treacherous but it's one of these grey area things we do, like farting, you know that no one is proud of ...

It really depends on how much people know each other. Two people who just entered a relationship would be on the careful side towards each other.

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Exactly. Why aren't we proud?

Are we really still so in the dark ages that we can't be honest about the fact that, yeah, I'm putting up these charts. Yeah, I've got a collective of fellow astrologers checking everything out. Yeah, I'm doing that. (?)

I sort of came from the semi-dark ages, where I was the youngest astrologer in the field. Really. I started when I was thirteen, and I was 'brought up' by some of the most incredible, published, active pros of the day (1994 through today -- though many have sadly passed) -- my 'aunties and uncles'. We were very honest about who we were, too.

LL has created this wonderful community that's about 5 times more plentiful than even that 500-1,500 populated mailing list -- and the age is DIVERSE now, rather than being heavy on the 45+ side, there's young teens now, too. It's fantastic!

posted November 07, 2015 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Well, LL isn't a private site. It's an open-for-all-eyes public internet forum that anyone can come across online. That anyone can include criminals such as identity thieves who can take personal information such as name, gender, date of birth, place of birth, and time of birth and turn it into a fake birth certificate and other forms of identification.

It's simply wiser and more prudent to NOT put such detailed personal info on a public site online.

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Eh. If you say so. Internet's a pretty massive place. I don't entertain that my information is so important that it'd be selected out of millions, you know? I used to be concerned, but I haven't been for awhile.

posted November 07, 2015 02:58 AM            

And if you get involved with someone who has their personal planets interact with it, watch out!!!

If the interaction involves Mercury/Venus/Mars/Uranus/Pluto. Things can get hot,hot, hot!

You have Mercury 13 Cap, Mars 5 Lib, Venus 21 Cap, Sat 3 Ari ,Nep 27 Cap.

There is some very hectic cardinal planet interaction in your chart alone.

Saturn opposes Mars,
Mars square Mercury,
Mercury conjunct Venus
Venus conjunct Neptune.

I have personal planets Mercury/Moon/Mars that would react with your positions as well. Call me

Okay, but seriously!He has a similar planet interaction that seems to "mirror" yours.

Saturn 6 Aries square Venus 5 Can,
Venus 5 Can conjunct Mars 12 Can,
Mars 12 Can conjunct Jupiter 8 Cap .

All of these in cardinal signs and reacting with your cluster of cardinal planets???

Notice also how they collectively involve Mars, Venus and Mercury?

The real question is; how could you guys even keep apart?

This "intensity" you speak of, could have been your Mercury/Venus conjunct his Neptune.

You may have seen him in an idealistic, consuming and maybe as an aphrodisiac. Even been infatuated.

Neptune has the tendency to make one "addicted" to another in synastry.

posted November 07, 2015 04:38 AM              

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