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Topic: Pluto - Moon conj
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bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 06:41 PM
I am trying to study this synastry chart btwn an old relationship. It looks like we both have a double pluto/moon conj zero orb aspect? Who's the pluto person? moon person?What does this mean? Any input is greatly appreciated! Any other aspects that i should learn about? I am horizontal, he's left IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 430 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 06:54 PM
I only see one Pluto/Moon conjunction. He's the Pluto and you're the moon.I would look up Sun square moon and Mercury square Uranus. You have both of those together, so you'd both feel the same way. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 07:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: I only see one Pluto/Moon conjunction. He's the Pluto and you're the moon.I would look up Sun square moon and Mercury square Uranus. You have both of those together, so you'd both feel the same way.
Ah, i am reading about it now .. the pluto/moon. it says so many things that resonates alot with our relationship!! WOW! Is the orb at zero degrees? It says that if the orb is zero deg. it's much more INTENSE .. if so, then it's sooo true! what do you mean we both feel the same with the Sun sq moon and merc sq uranus? what do we feel the same? thank you btw!
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 3244 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted November 07, 2015 07:31 PM
how did you feel that relationship, you as the Moon?IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 07:33 PM
You both have your SUN square the other's MOON. That's what was meant in the prior statement. So if you're looking for a 'mutual aspect', it'd be that. MOON conjunct PLUTO is interesting. It requires total honesty to avoid the less savoury features, and there will still be major power plays to keep in mind. These aspects happen in order to heal wounds from the past typically surrounding personal power, issues of control, jealousy, possessiveness, and emotional insecurity. I'm guessing as the MOON you feel quite smitten, and that he's the sometimes overwhelming force? Feels rather 'powerful' in some respect? Regardless of what's actually so? I have the exact opposition myself. It can be deeply binding, so long as both treat each other with respect and conduct their relationship with total emotional honesty and transparency. It will not survive emotional games. You'll tear each other apart before long. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 07:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: how did you feel that relationship, you as the Moon?
I felt i was more of the person who was more expressive with the feelings, nurturing. I felt his darkness (pluto) obsessions and control...but he was really good at 'masking' them...so this made me feel frustrated and confused. there were many times where it feels like the energy switches between the two of us...it was weird... again another confusion from my end. i do have moon/pluto conj in my natal..so i have that intensity and obsession as well. he has sun sq pluto and we both have venus sq pluto on our natals. interesting that i am learning about the aspects now, it all makes so much sense! IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 07:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: [B]You both have your SUN square the other's MOON. That's what was meant in the prior statement. So if you're looking for a 'mutual aspect', it'd be that.
yes! we both feel sooo very alike. we used to laugh about it, coz we were exact mirrors! quote:
MOON conjunct PLUTO is interesting. It requires total honesty to avoid the less savoury features, and there will still be major power plays to keep in mind. These aspects happen in order to heal wounds from the past typically surrounding personal power, issues of control, jealousy, possessiveness, and emotional insecurity.
the aspect of pluto/moon is DEFF working with the inner growth work with both of us.. i cannot fully say what's going on with him because we rarely speak..but for my part, it definately pushed me to do the work and face my issues to heal quote:
I'm guessing as the MOON you feel quite smitten, and that he's the sometimes overwhelming force? Feels rather 'powerful' in some respect? Regardless of what's actually so? I have the exact opposition myself.
hehe, VERY smittened (and still am) i don't think it will ever go away? he was the overwhelming force (but i can be too) the overwhelming part looking back was that he was very very secretive and had a hard time expressing his deep feelings (this was the hardest and frustrating / overwhelming part for me)...as for me, i have a sun trine moon .. so i am the total opposite where i just puke emotions! lol regarding the powerful, yes - he has the stronger pull of control, but there was a power struggle because, i am an aqua sun, and i HATE being controlled or tide down! quote:
It can be deeply binding, so long as both treat each other with respect and conduct their relationship with total emotional honesty and transparency. It will not survive emotional games. You'll tear each other apart before long.
sadly, we did blew it up... but like i said, the relationship did offer so much deeper healing for the both of us..so now, i see it as a gift. it was just too INTENSE, the way we were with our issues back then, it was just too much to hold down the relationship. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 07:59 PM
@aubwith both of our sun/moon aspect... is it true that we are able to read each other's minds? or a telepathic/psychic connection? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: @aubwith both of our sun/moon aspect... is it true that we are able to read each other's minds? or a telepathic/psychic connection?
SUN square MOON? No, if you have a telepathic connexion, it's not from that. Check NEPTUNE and PALLAS aspects. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 09:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: SUN square MOON? No, if you have a telepathic connexion, it's not from that. Check NEPTUNE and PALLAS aspects.
his pallas 8H sextile my neptune 4H
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 09:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: his pallas 8H sextile my neptune 4H
Oh. Heh! Not what I meant. Is there an age gap of at least 2 years between you? I'm thinking it might be less, given the 7° PLUTO conjunction, though. Telepathy tends to be a MOON/NEP, MERC/NEP, or PALLAS in connexion to an angle, SUN, MOON, or other personal points. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 10:18 PM
3 yearsbut what did you mean when you asked to look for neptune/pallas aspect? just realized it's you Aub that I was talking to the other day regarding twins lol this is that relationship... IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 430 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 10:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: 3 yearsbut what did you mean when you asked to look for neptune/pallas aspect? just realized it's you Aub that I was talking to the other day regarding twins lol this is that relationship...
His Netune sextiles your sun and moon. Your Neptune sextiles his Mercury.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 10:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: His Netune sextiles your sun and moon. Your Neptune sextiles his Mercury.
Eh. Not enough. No conjunctions, from what I can see. Especially if you're speaking of legitimate telepathy here. I've had that. If you'd like, I could share that synastry. Can you put up your synastry? IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 10:51 PM
there's telepathy. validated it a bunch of times before... (if not, then i might just be going nuts! lol)IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 10:55 PM
What do you mean by validated exactly?And thanks! I'll take a look. That's the biggest question here. I'm actually seeing a lot here that denotes empathy, very strong intuition of an empathetic nature. But not telepathy, per se. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 10:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: What do you mean by validated exactly?And thanks! I'll take a look. That's the biggest question here. I'm actually seeing a lot here that denotes empathy, very strong intuition of an empathetic nature. But not telepathy, per se.
in the past, i've asked him about certain times when i would sense telepathy or sensing feelings, and it's true... or i would be thinking about him, and he would call...stuff like that. EDIT: HMMM, what is the difference between tele and empathy? telepathy to me is thoughts picking up psychic connections.. and empathy would be sensing feelings. i would like to understand why this is happening based on the chart or what aspects we both have. it's actually making me really uncomfortable and overwhelmed when *THIS* happens. Almost like i get really consumed by very very fast thoughts and emotions. I understand that it could also be my emotions and thoughts, but i am very aware of my own stuff... and it's totally different feeling/experience. it's almost like i am 'channeling' or picking up from an outside source.... make sense? (it's not projections either) this happens with other certain people whom i am very close with as well.. but with him, it's just more intense and happens alot. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 11:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: in the past, i've asked him about certain times when i would sense telepathy or sensing feelings, and it's true... or i would be thinking about him, and he would call...stuff like that.EDIT: HMMM, what is the difference between tele and empathy? telepathy to me is thoughts picking up psychic connections.. and empathy would be sensing feelings
Empathy is the ability to read another individual based upon a superior understanding of human emotion; it can also be strengthened by an understanding of, and familiarity with certain body language, and forming correct associations to emotional states. Human beings are also creatures of habit. 90% of 'psychic' experiences are actually due to a habitual trigger being flipped in connexion to -- believe it or not -- the absence of a certain stimulus. If a couple tends to meet at a particular time, for example, and, upon one such instance, one of the two is ill, even if it's been several days, almost like clockwork, the two will feel a 'ping' on their psyche, when that time rolls around. This might be attributed to cellular memory and epigenetics; I'm really not sure, but it feels as if it's literally in the 'fibres of our being'. Telepathy, on the other hand, is far more rare. It tends to be random, and, alternately more specific. Rather than calling 'when you were just thinking of them', it tends to coincide with nothing in particular. It also tends to share the same phrases or words; as if it were a signal picked out of the air, and redelivered via a different medium. One of the most noteworthy in my experience was this time that I was brushing my teeth upstairs, and had left my phone downstairs. I'd also not texted with my producing partner at all that day; this was in the early afternoon. I turned to my husband and said, 'you know, if we're going to get Netflix, we have to prove that he's got legitimate standing. Not as a comedian, but as a lead actor. I'm gonna need a reel; something new. He hasn't done anything in a while, so, it's time.' Luckily, my husband is used to this behaviour, my rattling off my thoughts -- especially mid-hygiene routine -- so it was nothing surprising. I go downstairs, and see that my partner had texted me within the past two minutes. 'I was just thinking it's been awhile since I've done anything, and if we want Netflix to take us seriously, I've got to be a legitimate player. Not just my comedy, but like a real dramatic lead actor. So, here's a link to something we shot over the weekend. Think I should make a reel?' I almost dropped my phone. That would actually become one of many instances in which I would think something, and he'd text me 'the response', but as a thought that he was having. To me, that's been my new 'standard' of telepathy. It made me reevaluate a lot of things. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 11:19 PM
that's pretty wild!something similar happened to me with him as well. This was years ago, but the whole day, i was feeling this really floaty feeling in my heart, and i was really happy at work. my co-worker even teased me like 'what's wrong with you?' lol so at the end of the day on my way home, my phone ran out of battery and was off. I was still feeling *him*. So i got home, dropped my bag (with my phone in there) went upstairs to my room. Then there was this thought telling me, go back downstairs and charge your phone! So i followed that, went downstairs, got my phone, went back upstairs and plugged it. The second the phone turned back on, HE CALLED! another example was when i picked up on him when we were both at a concert, but he got there after me. I picked up his 'signal' that he was there out of nowhere. it's this 'zap' fast thought that would come to me through the mind. I followed that thought, walked around, and he was there in front of me! We both have gotten sick at the same time too without knowing it at that time. We find out after the fact. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 11:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: EDIT: another example was when i picked up on him when we were both at a concert, but he got there after me. I picked up his 'signal' that he was there out of nowhere. it's this 'zap' fast thought that would come to me through the mind. I followed that thought, walked around, and he was there in front of me!
Oh, yeah, that happens all the time with my husband. I just 'know' if my boyfriend is in the area (which, since he's not on set much anymore, hasn't been for awhile), but the second that I think to call my husband and ask if he's on his way home -- literally, within 2 seconds, I'll hear the door. This has happened so often now that it's become an accepted practise. Heh! My NEPTUNE isn't close enough to be on his MOON; I don't count 10º. But it might be parallel. We have a mutual MOON-IC conjunction, too. I noticed you have a MOON/IC, too. That could relate to that experience. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 11:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: something similar happened to me with him as well. This was years ago, but the whole day, i was feeling this really floaty feeling in my heart, and i was really happy at work. my co-worker even teased me like 'what's wrong with you?' lol so at the end of the day on my way home, my phone ran out of battery and was off. I was still feeling *him*. So i got home, dropped my bag (with my phone in there) went upstairs to my room. Then there was this thought telling me, go back downstairs and charge your phone! So i followed that, went downstairs, got my phone, went back upstairs and plugged it. The second the phone turned back on, HE CALLED!
Heh! I wouldn't really say that's similar, though. Is it that unusual for him to call when you thought he would? The individual I mentioned above, my ex producing partner -- eh, it got to the point where I'd hear my phone, answer it, and just say, 'hello, Robert,' even though it was first thing in the morning. Thing that still gets me? He never said, 'how'd you know it was me?' These things happen. Becoming ill around the same time is interesting, too. I've had that with both. I'm not sure how to review that one astrologically. It's definitely a 'soul group' thing. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 11:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Oh, yeah, that happens all the time with my husband. I just 'know' if my boyfriend is in the area (which, since he's not on set much anymore, hasn't been for awhile), but the second that I think to call my husband and ask if he's on his way home -- literally, within 2 seconds, I'll hear the door. This has happened so often now that it's become an accepted practise. Heh! My NEPTUNE isn't close enough to be on his MOON; I don't count 10º. But it might be parallel. We have a mutual MOON-IC conjunction, too. I noticed you have a MOON/IC, too. That could relate to that experience.
so with the moon/ic .. it's me that's 'psychic'? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5857 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 07, 2015 11:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: so with the moon/ic .. it's me that's 'psychic'?
I think the MOON/IC thing is an empathy thing, honestly. I think we become so bonded, upon such a deep, intuitive level, that these things begin happening. There's a connexion to each other that goes beyond the strictly corporeal, you know? That it takes on a soulful nature. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 11:28 PM
no i mean the unusual bit is that i was sensing him the whole entire day, and then he called towards the end of the day.. but the clincher is the whole cell running out of batter, then got the 'thought' of charging it, then once it got charged, he called.so i am getting it as - ok, there has to be some sort of connection telepathically. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 336 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 07, 2015 11:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I think the MOON/IC thing is an empathy thing, honestly. I think we become so bonded, upon such a deep, intuitive level, that these things begin happening. There's a connexion to each other that goes beyond the strictly corporeal, you know? That it takes on a soulful nature.
yeah i totally agree..just very wild and mind twisting! IP: Logged | |