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downtomars
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posted November 10, 2015 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so I'm back in love again. Well...not quite in love, but this guy seems pretty cool. I don't have all of the electric feels with this guy that I did with the last guy, even before I met him. This guy is just, well, cool. We are meeting this Saturday (going to a comedy show, should be awesome!), so I don't know, maybe I'll have the feels in person...


I also did our midpoints. Here is how I fall on his:

Sun=Sun/Moon (orb 1)
Mars=Sun/Mars (orb 0)
Mars=Sun/Saturn (orb 0)
Venus=Sun/Pluto (orb 0)
Jupiter=Sun/True Node (orb 0)
Venus=Moon/Venus (orb 0)
Venus=Moon/Jupiter (orb 0)
NNode=Moon/Mars (orb 0)
Sun=Venus/Uranus (orb 0)
Sun=Jupiter/Uranus (orb 0)
Venus=Uranus/Chiron (orb 1)
Moon=Pluto/NNode (orb 1)

He doesn't hit as many of mine:

Moon=Moon/Pluto (orb 0)
Sun=Moon/Neptune (orb 0 - opposite)
Sun=Saturn/Ascendant (orb 0 - opposite)
Sun=True Node/Ascendant (orb 1 - opposite)
Mercury=Mars/Chiron (orb 0)
Venus=Jupiter/Ascendant (orb 1)

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downtomars
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posted November 11, 2015 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love how Sun is conjunct Jupiter in the composite - it kind of describes what we are like already. We are both very witty and we trade quips all day long. I don't think we have had a serious-serious conversation yet. It's been very punny, quippy and upbeat.

We kind of bonded over comedy (we like the same stuff), that's why we are seeing a show.

I don't know though. I tend to focus on the good and completely ignore those Uranus squares and oppositions in synastry (okay, maybe not completely ignore).

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downtomars
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posted November 11, 2015 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something else cool that I noticed is our Moon-Moon conjunction. The last "gentleman" I dated had Moon in Aries, exactly opposed to my moon. That turned out to be pretty terrible for many reasons, but I could feel our moon opposition from the beginning. Me and this new guy have similar dispositions...

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downtomars
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posted November 11, 2015 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have Venus trine Saturn and Venus conjunct Saturn, so I'm wondering if those are good long term aspects. I do notice that the Venus-Saturn conjunction is an out of sign conjunction, and that we have a Venus square Uranus aspect. Yikes?

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downtomars
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posted November 12, 2015 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very concerned about the squares and oppositions to Uranus. They are on both sides too. Our personal planets form hard aspects to Uranus in our natals, because it's generational, so would it be less potent? Wishful thinking?

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posted November 14, 2015 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I just got done with our date. No chemistry, no spark. We did the polite "Oh, call me to hang out next week thing", but that probably won't happen. Oh well...

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posted November 15, 2015 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by downtomars:
Something else cool that I noticed is our Moon-Moon conjunction. The last "gentleman" I dated had Moon in Aries, exactly opposed to my moon. That turned out to be pretty terrible for many reasons, but I could feel our moon opposition from the beginning. Me and this new guy have similar dispositions...

Im guess it depends on what you want or need.I dont understand why but i had a moon-moon conjunction and wasnt fireworks.I guess that could be my problem though,i must have something really wrong in my chart cuz i dont enjoy what most people do.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted November 15, 2015 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by downtomars:
So, I just got done with our date. No chemistry, no spark. We did the polite "Oh, call me to hang out next week thing", but that probably won't happen. Oh well...

Wow, how strange. Can you post the Davison chart?

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posted November 15, 2015 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe his Mars/Saturn on your Venus/Descendant is the reason for the lack of chemistry. His Saturn opposing your Ascendant might feel restricting.

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posted November 15, 2015 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Maybe his Mars/Saturn on your Venus/Descendant is the reason for the lack of chemistry. His Saturn opposing your Ascendant might feel restricting.

Still weird to me.

I have a saturn/moon DW with my ex boyfriend no good aspects as venus-mars and were very attracted to one another at the beggining.
-Saturn is in my 7H
We didnt last long though (just few months) OF COURSE cuz besides the saturn/moon in synastry we have 4 saturn squares in composite lol


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posted November 15, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me it just goes to show that there can be potential, but if the two people involved aren't attracted to each other then it's just, potential.

I don't have any experience with a Davidson chart, I'll have to learn more about it. Here it is:

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posted November 15, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like Jupiter to sun or moon. I can laugh all day with the person

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todd
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posted November 15, 2015 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
post mortems are easy.
I just looked at this composite and off the top with mars square to pluto conjunct the node, he is marked as extremely selfish and looking for a quick "fix" rather than a relationship.
the moon sextile to Saturn and trine to venus does look favorable but the Saturn/Uranus midpoint is square to the sun/Jupiter conjunction, implying he is not interested in stability and his hesitant attitude would be expected. with mars square the node , I would think that you took some of the initiative to arrange the date ,as this aspect shows he is kind of of into himself, that is you were responding to his energy more than he was interested in your energy.


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posted November 15, 2015 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Maybe his Mars/Saturn on your Venus/Descendant is the reason for the lack of chemistry. His Saturn opposing your Ascendant might feel restricting.

Yeah, it might be a case of Saturn bringing things down instead of solidifying things. I have had that happen more than I have had Saturn work as a binding force - especially when it is Saturn conjunct an angle. This time it was Saturn on my DC and the last time I had a lot of Saturn contact it was my Saturn on the guy's AC and his on my IC. With that guy, we were attracted, but something was missing...

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posted November 15, 2015 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
post mortems are easy.
I just looked at this composite and off the top with mars square to pluto conjunct the node, he is marked as extremely selfish and looking for a quick "fix" rather than a relationship.
the moon sextile to Saturn and trine to venus does look favorable but the Saturn/Uranus midpoint is square to the sun/Jupiter conjunction, implying he is not interested in stability and his hesitant attitude would be expected. with mars square the node , I would think that you took some of the initiative to arrange the date ,as this aspect shows he is kind of of into himself, that is you were responding to his energy more than he was interested in your energy.


todd


Thank you Todd!

I actually think that he is into himself but not in the way we might think. I actually felt like he may have been somewhere on the autism spectrum, very high functioning (Aspergers). That is not a bad thing at all, he would not be the first guy I've dated with a behavioral or mental health diagnosis. I can recognize it because my brother is on the spectrum (autistic disorder). So, for him, I think, "into himself" just means within his own thoughts, or in his own head, as opposed too a jerk that only cares about himself. He is very sweet in a way and a very nice, nice guy. I would see him again, but I didn't have that initial "zsa zsa zsu" (as Carrie Bradshaw would say) :-P

Interestingly...This morning I told my mother that I thought he had Aspergers and how many men I've dated with Aspergers or another behavioral disorder, ADHD. She said "That's why the guys you date are always so smart!".

That was, as Oprah would say, an "a-ha moment". Yeah. This guy has three masters degrees and all of the others have lots of academic honors as well, along with lots of social issues.

What can I say? I like an extremely smart, slightly awkward guy...

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posted November 15, 2015 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and this guy have a love of, and obsession with, food. That's pretty much all we talk about. Food, music and comedy. It's great. We are like two overgrown couch potatoes who enjoy quips and sarcasm. Great friend material, nothing really hot. So in person, that's all we ended up doing as well. But, with actual food. The only thing is...

He didn't touch me (until the end, I'll get to that later). I am very tactile, very warm and touchy-feely. I have to smell a man, put my head on his chest, squeeze his arm. I have to have a guy that holds my hand and gives me hugs and puts his arm around my chair - someone affectionate. I didn't get any of that with him. He told me as much beforehand, because I asked if he would consider himself an affectionate person. He told me that he was not comfortable answering such a personal question (huh?) and I had to rephrase it, saying "I just want to know if you are the 'Don't touch me! type'..." and he replied "I like to cuddle". Good enough, I thought.

So, in person, he did the same thing the last Taurus I dated did - walked about three steps ahead of me, didn't hold my hand, had his hands in his lap during the show and avoided all physical contact during the date. I thought "Well, he's not so impressed I guess...". Then at the (abrupt) end of our date, at the train station, he gave me a quick hug and kiss on the cheek and...

"So what day do you get back? Sunday night?"

"Yup, Sunday"

"So we'll hang out, meet halfway"

"Okay"(?)

"But, we'll text before that..."

"Mmm hmm"

...This was so quick and awkward. I think I thanked him, maybe?

So, I really don't know what happened. It could have went well, I don't know, :-D

My cousin, who is against any kind of affection, said "Nachos, wings and no touching - perfect!"

Not to me...

I spoke with my mother this morning and she said "So? Maybe he was nervous. Sounds like a nice guy, but you only like guys who treat you like [crap]".

The thing is, I easily fall for the "overly demonstrative" type (aka "playas"). I'm not used to not ending a date with a passionate kiss. Even the other guy with Aspergers (the other Taurus I was talking about) ended the date by (awkwardly) asking "Do you want to make out?", and we did.

I don't know what is normal, so it could have been cool and I wouldn't know because his hand wasn't on my a**...

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LaceyLeigh
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posted November 15, 2015 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cuddling and holding each other on the first date is a bit much, though. To me, anyway.

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posted November 15, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't expect to cuddle on the first date, lol. I just wanted some kind of physical sign, a hug, hand holding. I asked if he was affectionate and he said the cuddling thing, so I thought "I guess he is affectionate in other ways(?)"...

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