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AstroAJ
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posted November 11, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the opposition aspect easier or harder when it is out of sign?

Specifically what I'm looking at is my 29 Sag Sun opposite their 1 Cancer Moon.


Would the opposition be easier to handle if it was straight up Sag sun opposite Gemini moon? Or does the watery nature of Cancer help ease the aspect a bit?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 11, 2015 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOS aspects can be problematic, because half of the aspect gives an attraction to it, while the other half may lead to the discovery that despite, the attraction, there are considerable differences. It doesn't have to be bad, in the context of the entire synastry, but this is usually a challenge with an OOS aspect. It matters a lot if the aspect is fit with the natal charts (for example, if the person already has a stellium covering two adjacent signs, making the OOS aspect a natural part of their energies)

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 12, 2015 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally, this is an opposition.

But I think that you could be dealing with a different set of clashing priorities.

The Sag/Gem Moon individual may have to find a balance between passion and reason. Principle and flexibility etc.

This above Sun/ Moon combo is often a contradiction; on one hand they can be on a quest for universal principles and truth.(Sag).But they can get lost or bogged down by a love of rumors, gossip and hearsay (Gem)

They may want to learn about the world(Sag). But cling very much to the teachings of their childhood neighborhood(Gem).

The Sag/Cancer opposition may pull the individual in between wanting to venture "out there"(Sag), but being terrified of leaving the safety nest(Cancer).

What usually happens here are two things; either the person creates a haven/home (Cancer) wherever they go (Sag).

Or they dream/conceptualize about going to these places(Sag) without ever leaving their homeland(Cancer)

Whatever the outcome, it is likely that the person wants to balance the past, safety, security,emotional roots with their sense of adventure, expansion or intellectual growth.

Some may even teach (Sag) history(Cancer). Or they may try to understand the world(Sag) through looking at the patterns of the past(Cancer).


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AstroAJ
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posted November 12, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries thank you for that beautiful description! Would it play out similarly in synastry? The situation I am dealing with is Person A with 29 Sag Sun and Person B with 1 Cancer Moon.

So it is sun opposite moon in synastry. And what I am wondering is if the aspect of "Sun opposite Moon" would be even more challenging for these two people because it is out of sign?

If I am understanding your explanation it sounds like the Sag sun opposite Gem Moon has it's own challenges, but you think that the Sag sun opp Cancer Moon is even MORE challenging?

When I think about it strictly elementally- I know that Fire and air are more compatible so my initial reaction is to think that the Gem-Sag opposition would be easier. However because of the nature of water, I lost wonder if the Cancer Moon opposition to the Sag sun would give a more "calming" effect to this opposition than the more airy stimulation nature of Gemini. Thoughts?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 13, 2015 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the fact that the opposition is between fire and air,does spring some interesting challenges.

Cancer is not likely to pay too much attention to what Sag "says". But how much/how little they "show" they care.

Now Sag is more a "talker" than a doer. They promise a great deal and rarely deliver

What can cause tension(given the orb), is that the Sag may promise(through Jupiter's opulent words),to be all things to Cancer.

Now Cancer ignores all the sweet talk.But pays careful attention to emotional cues, body-language and the unspoken words/ actions

So when Sag "nurtures" Cancer through expressions of encouragement but lack of physical affection or "babying", Cancer can feel neglected. And this can start off the distance between the two

Sag is warm..yes. But "warm" more in the general sense of the word, than in the personal "give you a hug when you down" way. And this is what Cancer painfully meets up with.

Also, Cancer is slow to get over harsh words. No matter how "playful" the intent was. And will likely "return the favour" as a measure of self-protection from future hurts.

Sag is always tripping on their words. Always saying something "out f turn". And Cancer can sometimes(plenty times) wonder where the Sag's loyalties truly lie?

The close opposition between these two will highlight the fire/water interaction and it is likely to be Sag who is often apologizing and walking on egg shells.


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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 13, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the opposition is between the fiery Sag and airy Gemini- both at 29 Degrees. The disagreements may be borne more out of disagreements that are far less personal. But matter greatly to both.

So perhaps they wouldn't hurt each others feelings per se by refusing to nurse the other back to health at a time of need etc. They would/may forgive this(barring Cancer/Scorpio is not on the Moon/Asc for either)

The hurt feelings could come from something Gemini casually says/fails to say/is ambiguous about that makes Sag question their principles.

Or something that Sag says/fails to say or too "sweeping" about that makes Gemini wonder if they are with a pompous person?

Here there is likely to be a disagreement with regards to ideals(Sag) and ideas(Gem). Something that may anger the two and separate them to a point where it is "personal".

But all this may have little or nothing to do with family, feelings or anything that most people would consider "personal".

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