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Wild Horses
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posted November 12, 2015 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have this in my synastry, but I was thinking about it today and wondering how it would operate.

How would it modify the dynamics of a conjunction if you had one planet in the conjunction ruling the other. What would the difference be between a Venus-Mars conj. in Aries vs. Venus-Mars in Libra or Taurus, Sun-Mercury in Gemini vs. Sun-Mercury in Leo, Venus-Moon in Cancer vs. Venus-Moon in Libra or Taurus, etc.?

Since the planet in it's rulership would be strong, then how would that alter the energy exchange between the two people? Would the person with the planet in rulership feel the connection more powerfully since their planet is the stronger one, or would the person with the non-rulership planet feel the energy more as if their planet is being overwhelmed by the other planet?

Do any of you have any experience with this?

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Aubyanne
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posted November 13, 2015 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds a bit like a mutual reception would balance that out; they're different from one-in-its-dignity-the-other-not, of course, but the general idea is that the rulership is almost 'exchanged'.

That is actually one of the very cool things about his and my synastry, which, I think, tops the karmic soulmate's. There are so many amazing, yet subtle, hidden connexions.

There's a rather fascinating, and deeply nuanced relationship between Aries MOON and Libra SUN I'd never considered before until this. The Aries MOON embodies Martian qualities with lunar receptivity; it's a curious balance. The Libra SUN, on the other hand, marries the energies of Venus and the solar fire. Between these two points, there's an odd mutuality and resonance, so when they're in an actual opposition, it can create a powerful balance between them, rather than the standard thought of 'opposition'.

I wasn't quite able to determine the appropriate 'complement' to VENUS in Leo, however; though, its mirror is SUN in Libra, curiously enough, as both carry solar / Venusian energy.

This is an example of mutual reception, but in synastry. It's a powerful resonance.

I say I'm having trouble with the appropriate complement for VENUS in Leo, because it seems, logically, that it would be MOON in Aries -- which brings us right back to the beginning. I'm not saying I don't like it -- Martian / lunar energy, and Venusian / solar energy -- it's lovely! But I prefer the Venusian / solar energy to be embodied in the Libra SUN when 'paired' with the Aries MOON. 'Paired'; like a fine wine with a gourmet meal.

In response to your question, however, there might be something to that, given the fact that -- as you've said -- MARS is in its rulership in Aries, while VENUS is in its detriment; in other words -- it ain't happy in the sign of war, sex, anger, and impulsivity. Conversely so for MARS in Libra. It can feel a bit 'hindered', as it's the natural domain of VENUS, and not MARS.

Now, would this mean, in the case of a conjunction, that the one whose experiencing placement in its ruler that it'd be 'more felt' ? I ... don't think so. Perhaps a bit more easily expressed, however. It'd seem 'more natural' to it.

That's why I think synastric complements could be a hidden boon, in the case of placements which are having a bit of trouble, perhaps, due to being in detriment or fall. The SUN, for example, is in its fall in Libra, due to the equinox connexion. The MOON doesn't have the easiest time in Aries, but it's neither in its fall nor detriment. My 'falling SUN' may appreciate the synergistic complement that his Aries MOON provides. Sometimes 'no news' is good news, heh!

At any rate, complements are fascinating. Mutual receptions are some of my favourite things to study; lately, however, I'm really getting a kick out of finding how these energies interconnect and balance through natural complement.

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posted November 13, 2015 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting, and yes, undervalued. I think it helps with challenging aspects, too.

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posted November 13, 2015 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always check which planet as a stronger dignity in aspect. It makes perfect sense to me. Specially in synastries.

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Neptune29
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posted November 13, 2015 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting.. I never noticed this..i have a lot in synastry..
My Venus on 29 aries conjuncts his mercury in Taurus. Bur can't guess the impact of sign in this.
My Venus trines his mars in vergo.also exact antiscia and parallel his mars.
I can just say my Venus is not at all uncomfortable in aries when his mars is with me.so it's adding the positivity of the aspect.
My ascendent in acqusrious and his Uranus squares that.
His Pluto in libra conjuncts my moon in Scorpio.
My husband's Neptune squares my sun Mercury conjunction in pieces exact 0 degree. It's true that I find him vegue sometimes but it has not created major problems. So I feel in case of even hard aspects as the planet is used to the energy of the other planet the impact gets softer.
Our composite also has Mercury in pieces in 8 th house squared by Neptune.

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Aubyanne
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posted November 13, 2015 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neptune29:
His Pluto in libra conjuncts my moon in Scorpio.

An out of sign conjunction?

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Aubyanne
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posted November 13, 2015 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune29:
My Venus trines his mars in vergo.also exact antiscia and parallel his mars.
I can just say my Venus is not at all uncomfortable in aries when his mars is with me.so it's adding the positivity of the aspect.

The antiscion relationship is what's the ultimate takeaway from that, I'd say. Very powerful.

The mutual reception of MARS in Virgo would be MERC in Aries, actually, rather than VENUS in Aries. VENUS in Aries, on the other hand, 'mutually receives' MARS in Libra. They're both in their detriment. That's because MARS is in its dignity in Aries, as MERC is also dignified in Virgo.

The ultimate complement, on the other hand, of VENUS in Aries, is probably SUN in Cancer, or MOON in Leo -- but don't quote me on that. I'm gathering that solar / lunar energy would balance the Venusian / Martian energy. And neither the SUN in Cancer, nor MOON in Leo is in its dignity. Hm. I'll have to think on that one further.

The complement then for MARS in Virgo ... MERC in Libra. Potentially. It's tough when MERC is involved; I tend to just flip the sign of the other part of the unit. Sort of like astrological algebra. Heh.

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