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sunshinegrl
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posted November 17, 2015 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshinegrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is: the dilemma that has driven me crazy for two years since the day (week?) I met this guy. Maybe you all can help me settle this in my heart once in for all...or at least get some clarity that I can't do on my own.

I met this person the very first week of my freshman year at university, two years ago in August. Since then our relationship has been a frustrating on/off, will-we-or-won't-we, I-love-you-but-i-can't-commit and it drives me insane. When we're together it's magical and comfortable. When we're not it's like our relationship doesn't exist. We go weeks/months without talking and the minute we see each other again it's that comfy, "I'm home" sort of feeling. There's a lot more to it, mostly involving us both seeing other people and not committing to one another and letting that taint our relationship, but I think that plays out a lot in the charts.

Just this past month I suggested we actually try dating and it sort of started...until two days ago when he dropped a bomb on me telling me he had starting seeing someone else. I'm really hurt and angry...and at the same time I don't feel like our relationship is over. For right now I'm keeping my distance because I don't want to put in any more effort than I already have, when he hasn't at all. Am I in denial that our relationship has ended? Or does part of me know that this isn't it? Obviously we're both young and this isn't the end of our dating lives...but I'd just like to know if there's something special behind this or I'm just being my ol' sentimental self

Synastry
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Side note that I think is important to mention:
My Sun/Moon Midpoint is 14Leo18, which would be conjunct his Mars by 2 degrees
His Sun/Moon Midpoint is 22Pisces55, which is opposite my Sun by 2 degrees

Much love <3

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Lostinweb
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posted November 17, 2015 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lostinweb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to be blunt but, it basically looks like a whirlwind romance without a lot of staying power. Neither of your Saturns are engaged with any other planets.
His Venus is conjunct your Neptune making you think the pairing is perhaps more dreamy, fairy tale-like than it truly is. Your moons are squared which usually means you're emotionally out of sync with each other. You have your Sun trine his Venus which is typically physical attraction/romantic feelings without any substance. With his Venus close by your Uranus and your Mercurys trine there may be some common interests and good convo. Sounds like a better potential date or pal, more than a long-term romantic partner.

I hope this helps!! Maybe some others will weigh in

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sunshinegrl
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posted November 17, 2015 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshinegrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lostinweb:
Sorry to be blunt but, it basically looks like a whirlwind romance without a lot of staying power. Neither of your Saturns are engaged with any other planets.
His Venus is conjunct your Neptune making you think the pairing is perhaps more dreamy, fairy tale-like than it truly is. Your moons are squared which usually means you're emotionally out of sync with each other. You have your Sun trine his Venus which is typically physical attraction/romantic feelings without any substance. With his Venus close by your Uranus and your Mercurys trine there may be some common interests and good convo. Sounds like a better potential date or pal, more than a long-term romantic partner.

I hope this helps!! Maybe some others will weigh in


It's not in the simple chart, but my Sun is opp his Saturn by 8 deg and his sun is conjunct my saturn by 8. Not sure how wide of orbs you use; i usually count 8 for conj/oppositions! I also thought that my Saturn sitting directly on his IC would add some sense of stability but...I dunno!

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todd
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posted November 17, 2015 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the composite paints a similar picture.
the sun/moon midpoint is square to venus which shows there is a strong attraction but the mars/Venus midpoint is square to Uranus and Neptune. this is an aspect of intense electric passion but not continuity. Neptune adds to the promiscuous nature of the relationship and the unlikely chance a serious relationship will develop.

one would think that because mar/Chiron is sextile to pluto and Venus and trine to Neptune/Uranus that there would be a attractive if unusually ambience between you. but Uranus/Neptune square the node and as I said the mars/venus midpoint is square Uranus and they are also conjunct the node.. so here because of the nodal power with Uranus , the harmonious aspects of the sextile and trines are overridden by the volatile Uranus.

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sunshinegrl
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posted November 17, 2015 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshinegrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you todd. Composite looks promising with the 5th house moon, grand trine earth and 1st house stellium on the ASC but I hadn't really looked at the midpoints. I think it's just me always wanting to work through the bad and not realize when things just aren't going to happen.

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Aubyanne
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posted November 17, 2015 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But is there anything on the midpoint itself? Midpoints receive; they don't form aspects in and of themselves. If, say, something is on the VENUS/MARS MP and that's square the other point? Well, sure.

But saying that a point merely square a midpoint is misleading.

Hmm. Might count the cNNODE. Can't tell if it's in orb, though. It still only receives aspects, however. But it'd receive the square from URANUS, which could be VENUS/MARS tinged with the VENUS/MARS=NNODE. If it's in orb.

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sunshinegrl
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posted November 23, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshinegrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know too much about midpoints other than Sun/Moon...so I can't say much about that

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Ceridwen
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posted November 23, 2015 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:

But saying that a point merely square a midpoint is misleading.


Not necessarily, though I understand your reasoning.
Well my squares to midpoints are definitely felt acutely natally. But since I cannot make myself a rule, here is my reasoning why I use squares to midpoint.

Midpoints themselves are not really points but come as an axis, as we have a near and a far midpoints, always opposite of each other.
The exact square position to this is indded occupying the midpoint of that midpoint axis.

It might be more subtle in effect, more watered down, but it still has association with that midpoint axis.

On the other hand now that I think about it my Sun/Saturn-mp squares my Venus and I feel it, but then again my MC conjuncts my Sun/Saturn-mp, too.

On the other hand Moon squares my Mercury/Pluto-midpoint, which definitely shows in my emotional-mental nature and nothing else can really explain my obsession with analysing emotions into the depth of them, but there is nothing really on my Mercury/Pluto-midpoint itself (except the asteroid LANCELOT and opposing it my name asteroid).

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todd
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posted November 23, 2015 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I judge symbols by whether they respond to planets.
midpoints have respond to transits as well as any other symbol.
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