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Faith
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posted November 19, 2015 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you break up with someone who hated, opposed, mocked, or ridiculed astrology?

Would you be willing to give it up to appear less weird to your partner?

Would you be willing to just hide your interest?

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posted November 19, 2015 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldnt be in a relationship with such person, not because he denounce astrology but because he doesnt show tolerance towards something that he knows is dear to me.
I wouldnt be able to love such person.

If I love someone who is drawn to a philosophy I am not keen of, but I know that he is dearly invested into, I'd show a certain level of respect and tolerance. I'd even try to understand it somehow, not really love it but at least try to see where he is coming from. That's love for me and I'd expect ethe same in return. Tolerance and understanding.

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posted November 19, 2015 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope.


Challenge extended.


Challenge accepted.

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posted November 19, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Would you break up with someone who hated, opposed, mocked, or ridiculed astrology?

Would you be willing to give it up to appear less weird to your partner?

Would you be willing to just hide your interest?

Curious


To answer more correctly.

No. I wouldn't break up. It's not the end of the world.

I would be unwilling to give it up.

I would be able to hide it, sure. I wouldn't pretend to give it up but I'd show respect if they were absolutely uninterested in anything to do with it. Heck, I was with someone (for 6 years) and we didn't share the same taste in music. I didn't play mine when they were with me in the car for example but they'd play theirs. Sounds unfair but it was more my idea and I was fine with it. I have more tolerance than many would believe. I had plenty of time to listen to it on my own time.
But I'm mutable most of all so that might be the factor.
Though I CAN BE stubborn as a mule about other things. LOL

My point really is that it certainly could be done. (Having opposite views on astrology)

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posted November 19, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I wouldnt be in a relationship with such person, not because he denounce astrology but because he doesnt show tolerance towards something that he knows is dear to me.
I wouldnt be able to love such person.

If I love someone who is drawn to a philosophy I am not keen of, but I know that he is dearly invested into, I'd show a certain level of respect and tolerance. I'd even try to understand it somehow, not really love it but at least try to see where he is coming from. That's love for me and I'd expect ethe same in return. Tolerance and understanding.

Yes to this.

The amount of red flags in my last relationship was.. high. Among them was his anger when I would bring up astrology. He would say he didn't understand and this was what made him impatient. He would also deny being "angry" but I really don't know what else to call it. I agree with Orange that a certain level of respect and patience is very important. I did my best to understand the things he was into and support him unconditionally in them. He said he supported my interest in astrology but I think he felt threatened by it... Really unsure overall, and at this point don't really care.

Towards the end he was allowing me to painstakingly teach him about the houses as we drove on a road trip. But we only got to the 2nd house ...

Ugh.


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posted November 19, 2015 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't forcing it down his throat or nothin, but two sentences into trying to explain something he had asked about he would throw up his hands and say he didn't understand. I don't think it's his thing--and that's fine--but he was so mean about it.

The fact that this particular tension related directly to the study of the stars n planets is kind of moot though. We were really incompatible. I think that particular tension was my Saturn square his Mercury playing out.

If they don't like astrology they probably reeeaaally don't like hearing 'why you don't get along' according to astrology! Heh. I didn't bring that up much though i was honest when I had revelations (and ways to work through things)... but he could tell I was piecing things together and he was (still is) in denial about how very much it didn't/couldn't work between us...

blah blah blah. Anyway. You get it.

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posted November 19, 2015 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd post in a row because that's how I do!....:

I would not hide it or pretend I'm not into it. Honesty is really important to me. I have 20 astrology books on my desk and they're not going anywhere. I'm occasionally paid to do astrology. I don't think a relationship where I felt compelled to hide it would be healthy. I think talking about it is actually extremely important to me and it is a lens through which I understand myself and the world. Most of my friends are very interested and supportive and want to learn more and have readings with me... why should I expect less in a romantic partner?

Screw romantic partners anyway lol

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posted November 19, 2015 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry universe I didn't mean that. Romance is cool I guess.

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posted November 19, 2015 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
!!!

Thanks for your answers, yungang, Orange & DG.

I will probably have more to say later....for now....

No, I would not get into another relationship with a man who is against astrology. It's about more than astrology.

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posted November 19, 2015 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would we put up with an intimate partner who thought our views on this subject were absurd? I would not. I enjoy being "tested" on my theories, but absolutely expect to be respected for my views.

I think orange nailed it.

I would never hide my interest, but would not "throw up" lol - information for someone who didn't care.

Others would expect the same for something they value. Good topic.

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posted November 19, 2015 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I couldn't be with anyone who would try to make me give up something I was interested in. Yes, they might not "get" what Astrology is about or have any interest in it but if I'm interested in it, I feel like they should at least let me keep it as a hobby/interest. I would never ask a significant other to give up one of their hobbies and I expect the same in return.

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posted November 19, 2015 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Would you break up with someone who hated, opposed, mocked, or ridiculed astrology?

Would you be willing to give it up to appear less weird to your partner?

Would you be willing to just hide your interest?

Curious


8 years with my husband. I just ... kinda deal. He does, too. We don't argue about it too much. He just sort of ... 'puts up with it', so to speak.

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posted November 20, 2015 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I brought him for the first time to my favorite metaphysical store and he just walked around and said something like "alright. everybody here looks a little off.. and I feel like a shining star, the only sane one" (that aries ego but he was joking).
I sprayed him with scented water from a test bottle labeled as "remove bad habit" and smeared "guardian protection" oil on his neck while he was trying to liberate himself from my choke-hold position.

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posted November 20, 2015 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^THAT is cute!

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posted November 20, 2015 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Orange

I laughed so hard reading that! Especially the part about the spray.

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posted November 20, 2015 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I could be with someone(again) that was closed minded to astrology and related subjects.

My ex did not believe in astrology, and would tell me "Don't talk about astrology to me"! He hated it, and thought it was ridiculous. I've only been into astrology for the last few years, but my whole life I've had prophetic dreams and psychic visions. In our 14 years together he would mock my predictions and tell me that I'm crazy, even when they would later come to fruition. He would reluctantly admit that I was right, but it always made him uncomfortable because he couldn't understand or make sense of it. It always hurt me deeply to feel so misunderstood by the person that I loved the most.

Several events in the last few years caused him to be more open minded to these subjects. One example was on Christmas day 2011, while opening presents at my sister's house, I suddenly felt panicked. I looked at him and said "Something is wrong with one of the cats, we have to go home"!!! Normally he would get angry at me or call me paranoid, but he held my hand and gently talked me down, and convinced me that everything was ok. A few hours later we went home to find one of our cats lying dead in the middle of the kitchen floor. My ex genuinely felt bad for doubting me, and hasn't been so judgemental about it since then. I guess because it touched him on an emotional level and it wasn't a trivial type of intuitive vision, which mine often are. I also knew that his brother would marry a particular girl, even though he had been the best man at her wedding when she married his friend a few years ago. I predicted this in 2006, so it took 9 years to happen. They're getting married in 2 weeks. I could go on all day about things I was right about, but I think these examples in particular helped to convince him that these are not just paranoid visions that I'm creating in my head.

I've also accurately predicted several events in his life in recent months through dreams, intuition, and using astrology for exact timing. Several events I predicted to the exact day. He's still a reluctant believer, but now he asks me questions about different events and what/when it will happen. It's funny how he finally came around.

*Sorry for veering off topic into things other than astrology. I mentioned these examples because this was always a problem between my ex and I. He viewed all of it with equal disdain. When I became interested in astrology it got even worse, and it made me feel like he did not really accept me as I am.

It would be really difficult for me to be with a person that didn't at least have some respect for psychic experiences or astrology. I find it difficult to deal with in platonic situations too because some people think it's crazy. It's painful for me to feel the need to censor myself when it comes to these subjects. That's why I'm really thankful for LL and the fellow members, because my whole life I've felt mostly alone in my experiences, aside from my immediate family.

As a side note, my current love interest is into astrology and Tarot. A fact that I didn't know until nearly a year after meeting him. Unfortunately he moved out of state so I'm doubtful it will ever get off the ground. It was a nice surprise to know that we had more in common than I originally thought though.

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posted November 20, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am married to someone like that and no I did not give it up nor would I ever; I didn't give it up for my parents or for religion so I am not going to start now for a guy.

He would even get angry at me for spending time on this forum but at some point I got through to him that he doesn't have to like it but he has to accept it and let me be.

I am on the forum most of the time while he is right next to me doing his own thing too and he knows I am here regularly. When he sees me looking at a chart he jokes by saying "looking at the squiggly lines??" and I smile or laugh so we have come a long way, I am no longer dealing with the power struggles of him trying to get me to stop being interested in astrology.

Its a turn off how many men out there are skeptics of something they haven't truly looked into in depth or given a shot, its even more a turn off when my interest to it turns them off bc that is just obnoxious but if you are willing to get over it and even better indulge me or keep an open mind I can move forward with you as well. If not you can so Kiss my A**.

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posted November 20, 2015 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I got through to him that he doesn't have to like it but he has to accept it and let me be.


I second that.

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posted November 20, 2015 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
I'd even try to understand it somehow, not really love it but at least try to see where he is coming from. That's love for me and I'd expect ethe same in return. Tolerance and understanding.

I love that - so simple and true.

Love is tolerance and understanding.

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posted November 20, 2015 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
^^THAT is cute!

It really is!

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posted November 20, 2015 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Heck, I was with someone (for 6 years) and we didn't share the same taste in music. I didn't play mine when they were with me in the car for example but they'd play theirs. Sounds unfair but it was more my idea and I was fine with it. I have more tolerance than many would believe.

Ah well, you have some Libra stuff, it's all about partnership.

And I'm the same-- we listen to my husband's music in the car. He has very sensitive hearing and cannot stand some types of music (ie, the kind I like!) It's no big deal for me.

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posted November 20, 2015 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The fact that this particular tension related directly to the study of the stars n planets is kind of moot though. We were really incompatible. I think that particular tension was my Saturn square his Mercury playing out.

I agree it's usually about more than just astrology. My husband and I are clear on Mercury-Saturn tension, thankfully. But his Saturn is conjunct my Neptune, mine square his Neptune.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
If they don't like astrology they probably reeeaaally don't like hearing 'why you don't get along' according to astrology!

True

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I would not hide it or pretend I'm not into it. Honesty is really important to me. I have 20 astrology books on my desk and they're not going anywhere. I'm occasionally paid to do astrology. I don't think a relationship where I felt compelled to hide it would be healthy. I think talking about it is actually extremely important to me and it is a lens through which I understand myself and the world. Most of my friends are very interested and supportive and want to learn more and have readings with me... why should I expect less in a romantic partner?

to all of that. I'm the same way. Currently my husband has a 95% hands-off approach to my interest in astrology...he leaves me alone. But he still has contempt for it, except insofar as it enables me to understand some things he's saying about astronomy. Which, go figure, he is really into. Most nights he's outside charting the stars.

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posted November 20, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Why would we put up with an intimate partner who thought our views on this subject were absurd? I would not. I enjoy being "tested" on my theories, but absolutely expect to be respected for my views.

I love hearing that. Wish I were the same

quote:
Originally posted by llewsacm:
I would never hide my interest, but would not "throw up" lol - information for someone who didn't care.

It's hard for me to not hide it, mainly because I hate having to defend it.

And my kids' friends could come over and see the books and tell their parents and it would be a big deal (since we know a lot of Christians.) In fact this recently happened, I think my daughter mentioned something astrological to a friend, and now I'm the wicked witch to that friend's mother.

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Others would expect the same for something they value. Good topic.

They would, wouldn't they?? And thanks

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posted November 20, 2015 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I couldn't be with anyone who would try to make me give up something I was interested in. Yes, they might not "get" what Astrology is about or have any interest in it but if I'm interested in it, I feel like they should at least let me keep it as a hobby/interest. I would never ask a significant other to give up one of their hobbies and I expect the same in return.

So happy for you

I gave up astrology when I got married, or gave up my books, and naively thought I could drop it...so this is a case where I changed on my husband and he doesn't like the change. Still...love should be flexible...

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posted November 20, 2015 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More to say later

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