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ChildofVenus
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posted December 05, 2015 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone ever experienced this?

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posted December 05, 2015 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's an impossible question to answer, for a number of reasons, 1: 'Bad' synastry is often totally subjective. What I think of as 'bad' may manifest as 'good' for another couple, depending on their natals.

What you're asking is really more to do with hard energy, which, again, only YOU can determine within your own chart. I have a strong Saturn square with my boyfriend, which I initially thought of as 'bad' in synastry, but I can see now was most likely what caused us both to completely man up during our dating process and now we're committed to one another and growing in every single way. Uranus also played a role in our synastry, and wound up showing in me moving all the way across the world - but it has inspired HIM to also travel and seek work potential overseas as well.

Do not generalize any synastry as 'good' or 'bad.' It is simply what two people bring to the table, and how those energies mingle.

My sister has what some people would call 'bad' synastry with her now husband, but their composite is gorgeous together and when you look closer at their synastry, you actually see why they are bound together on such a wonderful level. Life isn't perfect, so why would any person or relationship be?

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posted December 05, 2015 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
That's an impossible question to answer, for a number of reasons, 1: 'Bad' synastry is often totally subjective. What I think of as 'bad' may manifest as 'good' for another couple, depending on their natals.


Thank you. That is what I think EVERY TIME someone asks that on here.


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posted December 05, 2015 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean more so for friendship not so much romantic. I was told that I had bad synastry with someone that the guy and I aren't a good match. But he's not someone who I want a romantic relationship with. Our composite and Davison chart is better than our Synastry. I just don't know if I should bother trying to be friends with this guy since we have bad synastry. We argue and I know it's because of synastry but we usually end up making up again.
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
That's an impossible question to answer, for a number of reasons, 1: 'Bad' synastry is often totally subjective. What I think of as 'bad' may manifest as 'good' for another couple, depending on their natals.

What you're asking is really more to do with hard energy, which, again, only YOU can determine within your own chart. I have a strong Saturn square with my boyfriend, which I initially thought of as 'bad' in synastry, but I can see now was most likely what caused us both to completely man up during our dating process and now we're committed to one another and growing in every single way. Uranus also played a role in our synastry, and wound up showing in me moving all the way across the world - but it has inspired HIM to also travel and seek work potential overseas as well.

Do not generalize any synastry as 'good' or 'bad.' It is simply what two people bring to the table, and how those energies mingle.

My sister has what some people would call 'bad' synastry with her now husband, but their composite is gorgeous together and when you look closer at their synastry, you actually see why they are bound together on such a wonderful level. Life isn't perfect, so why would any person or relationship be?


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posted December 05, 2015 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know his birth time but I do think he may have personal issues which is why it's so hard for us to get along. We get along in person but we don't live in the same state this is why I ask if you have to be around the person for the charts to be active.
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Thank you. That is what I think EVERY TIME someone asks that on here.


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posted December 05, 2015 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I mean more so for friendship not so much romantic. I was told that I had bad synastry with someone that the guy and I aren't a good match. But he's not someone who I want a romantic relationship with. Our composite and Davison chart is better than our Synastry. I just don't know if I should bother trying to be friends with this guy since we have bad synastry. We argue and I know it's because of synastry but we usually end up making up again.

Works the same way in the sense that any single aspect can play out a little differently. Romantic aspects do not always mean romance, yet, they can play out in other ways. Perfect example is my best friend and I.

Bottom line to answer most of your questions: astrology is not black and white. A + B doesn't always equal C.
It's potential energy. There's the potential for 'C' but it's not guaranteed.

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posted December 05, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have to be around the person all the time for the synastry and composite charts to be active? Is the composite chart active once you meet the person?
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Works the same way in the sense that any single aspect can play out a little differently. Romantic aspects do not always mean romance, yet, they can play out in other ways. Perfect example is my best friend and I.

Bottom line to answer most of your questions: astrology is [b]not black and white. A + B doesn't always equal C.
It's potential energy. There's the potential for 'C' but it's not guaranteed. [/B]


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posted December 06, 2015 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think you have to be physically in their presence for the either chart to take effect. You just have to interact for your synastry to be active and you have to continue to interact for the composite to be active.

I have a very good friend whom I've never once actually met face-to-face and yet I can see how we perfectly embody our composite Leo Asc. Our composite Moon in Pisces in the 7H trine Saturn and sextile our 9H Taurus stellium. The love and loyalty we each have for each other is nothing short of amazing. Especially when you consider she and I have only ever spoken through electronic means. But her and her family mean no less to me than anyone else I hold near and dear.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would, under almost NO circumstances, cut off or give up on a friendship about which I felt there was something good to be learned or some support and kindness to be offered, based on astrological comparisons.

Please do not torment yourself based on one astrologers viewpoint. When somebody gives you advice which doesn't take into consideration your clearly stated views and feelings on the matter, do not question yourself if they tell you that you don't feel the way you just said you feel. That's irresponsible counseling, it's unethical to make somebody question themselves like that.

You are completely able to have a positive friendship with this person. There may be tension and difficulty but I do not have a SINGLE friend with whom some of that doesn't exist. That's life! That's learning! It is love and understanding and patience to work through it. The individual manifestations of certain chart factors are in NO WAY guaranteed to work out in particular ways predictably. We've seen several instances here where todd has made a definitive negative prediction and the pain has responded to say it's the opposite based on 25 years of loved experience with the friend going well, for instance.

Please remember you're on an astrology forum and not consulting professional astrologers. A professional astrologer would be out of bounds telling you you want more than friendship when you said you didn't.

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posted December 06, 2015 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 07, 2015 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this were true I don't think people would be here asking all of these questions. People actually do take all of this to heart and may choose not to deal with a person because of it.

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I would, under almost NO circumstances, cut off or give up on a friendship about which I felt there was something good to be learned or some support and kindness to be offered, based on astrological comparisons.

Please do not torment yourself based on one astrologers viewpoint. When somebody gives you advice which doesn't take into consideration your clearly stated views and feelings on the matter, do not question yourself if they tell you that you don't feel the way you just said you feel. That's irresponsible counseling, it's unethical to make somebody question themselves like that.

You are completely able to have a positive friendship with this person. There may be tension and difficulty but I do not have a SINGLE friend with whom some of that doesn't exist. That's life! That's learning! It is love and understanding and patience to work through it. The individual manifestations of certain chart factors are in NO WAY guaranteed to work out in particular ways predictably. We've seen several instances here where todd has made a definitive negative prediction and the pain has responded to say it's the opposite based on 25 years of loved experience with the friend going well, for instance.

Please remember you're on an astrology forum and not consulting professional astrologers. A professional astrologer would be out of bounds telling you you want more than friendship when you said you didn't.


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posted December 07, 2015 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, I went a little overboard there. It's important to remember there are nuances in your synastry which might still be useful to take into account though. Anyway, yup. Just wishing you the best. And todd if you're reading this, sorry for the harsh words. I know you are doing your very best and were advising honestly based on what you saw in order to be useful and of help.I do respect your opinion.

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posted December 07, 2015 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What nuances? I don't know why we can't just be friends and all this just goes away. Everything would be so much easier.
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Right, I went a little overboard there. It's important to remember there are nuances in your synastry which might still be useful to take into account though. Anyway, yup. Just wishing you the best. And todd if you're reading this, sorry for the harsh words. I know you are doing your very best and were advising honestly based on what you saw in order to be useful and of help.I do respect your opinion.

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posted December 08, 2015 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess maybe I just need to take some time and think about all this. I feel conflicted because apart of me says not to give up. I just don't know what to think or do anymore. Even though I say I don't want to be friends with him anymore. Deep down that's not really how I feel.

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