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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*~nvm~* but here's the synastry anyway, for reference:

trapped feelings =

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Spongebob
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posted December 05, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which person are you in the chart? The outer one or the inner one?

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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2015 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did he say he still wanted you?

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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, we are friends.. But both of us has had 'feelings' for the other while the other was unavailable, this is like the fourth time. I have a feeling he broke up with his gf, who he compared me to and rubbed in my face. The thing is, I'd love to be friends but there's so much intensity that he won't even talk to me while he's in a relationship because the other person gets jealous. So I chose to let go because I need all or nothing. And I found my all..
I'm confused as to why he'd even contact me at this point, why can't it just die?

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posted December 05, 2015 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
No, we are friends.. But both of us has had 'feelings' for the other while the other was unavailable, this is like the fourth time. I have a feeling he broke up with his gf, who he compared me to and rubbed in my face. The thing is, I'd love to be friends but there's so much intensity that he won't even talk to me while he's in a relationship because the other person gets jealous. So I chose to let go because I need all or nothing. And I found my all..
I'm confused as to why he'd even contact me at this point, why can't it just die?


If he didn't say that he wanted you why are you assuming thats what he's after. Maybe his interest in you is totally platonic now and he just wants to be friends.

If you don't want it, just tell him no, he wont die LOL

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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want the relationship to die, not him. But I am wondering about the astrology of this feeling of being eternally tied to him no matter what.

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posted December 05, 2015 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I want the relationship to die, not him. But I am wondering about the astrology of this feeling of being eternally tied to him no matter what.

If you don't respond the relationship is over though. He wont die if you don't talk to him again.

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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get your point, but it doesn't help me. I believe there is cosmic energy at play that makes it especially difficult to stop the relationship, and that is what I'm asking about.

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posted December 05, 2015 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I get your point, but it doesn't help me. I believe there is cosmic energy at play that makes it especially difficult to stop the relationship, and that is what I'm asking about.

I'm just confused. Because you said the guy just texted you - and didn't make any romantic or sexual overtures towards you, but that afterwards you dreamed he was saying you were his great love.

Then you said that you're guessing he ended things with his girlfriend, it's an assumption.

When I looked at the synastry, I'll be totally honest...I hesitated to say anything because I figured you'd take it the wrong way.

But...

The ruler of your sun (ego) is Jupiter, conjunct Pluto, which is just going to intensify it - you have a large ego, and I'm not saying that with any malice, either overtly or passive-aggressively. I'm stating that strictly as fact, presenting that as neither a negative nor a positive. It is what it is.

You said that he rejected you at some point for someone else, and compared you to this girl and said she was better. Which would be a huge ego blow to anybody.

Now he calls or texts you to say hello, and then you dream that he praises you. Dreams are usually wish-fulfillment, the brain trying to give you something you want. I won't say that there's no such thing as astral travel or projection, I do believe there is, but usually people dream about things they want to happen. Which isn't to say that you want him back; your ego just might want to see him grovel and say he wants you. It wants to be appeased.

I'm not saying this to say that he doesn't like you at all - with the venus-sun conjunction going on, he probably does genuinely like you as a person so he periodically seeks you out, even if he may not necessarily want to date you at this point, but I think you're interpreting his actions as meaning that he's chasing after you again, because you kinda want to believe it means that.

Is it really that you feel trapped and obligated to him as you said originally or that you're just having a bit of a hard time letting go because of what he did to you (your Saturn is conjunct his IC, yes it's his IC but it's your Saturn).

Nobody owes anybody anything or is chained to anyone. If you really don't want to engage with him, you don't have to and he'd probably survive just fine because obviously he had a life before you. I think you keep picking up the phone...not because you feel "obligated to" him or "trapped", but because your sticking it out hoping that he asks you out again because you want that validation.

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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ok, I see what you're saying now. Thanks for your response.
I am more inclined to agree with what you're saying about the dreams than simply jumping to astral travel. It's just that this whole thing started with me wanting to be friends, and him chasing me, until I thought there was a connection and that he might be serious. Then it was back and forth, until I felt so much better letting him go.
But all I wanted was to make music with him and be close to him, it just got very complicated. So me picking up the phone is based on me thinking that *maybe the time is right for us to be friends, not for him to validate me with romanticism. But every time I do that, it turns into a weird romantic thing that I don't want. It feels platonic and we have even told each other that we feel like siblings, but at this point there's been so much back and forth up and down, that it drains me to even talk about it, let alone continue a friendship with this person. Yet ignoring him feels like ignoring a brother, like a huge no-no. Lol

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posted December 05, 2015 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like both your Venus in Scorpio playing themselves to death. When you 'choose' to transcend the drama, it won't matter to you anymore.

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Selenite
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posted December 05, 2015 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol.. very 'true.'

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Spongebob
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posted December 05, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Oh ok, I see what you're saying now. Thanks for your response.
I am more inclined to agree with what you're saying about the dreams than simply jumping to astral travel. It's just that this whole thing started with me wanting to be friends, and him chasing me, until I thought there was a connection and that he might be serious. Then it was back and forth, until I felt so much better letting him go.
But all I wanted was to make music with him and be close to him, it just got very complicated. So me picking up the phone is based on me thinking that *maybe the time is right for us to be friends, not for him to validate me with romanticism. But every time I do that, it turns into a weird romantic thing that I don't want. It feels platonic and we have even told each other that we feel like siblings, but at this point there's been so much back and forth up and down, that it drains me to even talk about it, let alone continue a friendship with this person. Yet ignoring him feels like ignoring a brother, like a huge no-no. Lol


Dude im so confused right now LOL

You said in your first post that he just texted you, and that there was nothing romantic or sexual in the texts. You didn't mention anything about him chasing you around either. I thought you joined his band, fell for him but he didn't want to go out with you? Or you did briefly but he chose someone else in the end and the other day he texted you just to say Hi?

At any rate i agree with the above post that really if you don't want this to continue all you have to do is ignore him. I promise you, he's not going to off himself if you ignore him.

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Selenite
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posted December 06, 2015 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean no, that's not what I said at all.. but I get it that he won't kill himself. If you don't want to talk about the synastry, then it's not going to be helpful to me.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 06, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing to your Moon and your Moon is fairly aspected in your chart.

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